Out of curiosity... from Australia :)

He's obviously not an amazing Christian example, but I'd like to argue that he is not nearly as horrible as he is painted out to be. A lot of the things he has done have actually helped the country. I think many people took his win in the 2016 election too personally, so his every move is nitpicked or misconstrued. I'm not saying he's an amazing person, but I definitley think he has managed to do some good with what he has been given.

I find South to be more interesting

I would say your news is lying to you. I've never known anyone to die of a heart attack who was using Plaquenil in a situation much like a prophylactic experiment. None of us who are autoimmune and in Plaquenil have COVID-19. No one is dying from the medication. I am certain all these claims of heart disease are greatly exaggerated. I'm an old lady taking it, and I have had no reactions or side effects. Of the 900 people in my RA group, representing thousands of years of being on the drug, I've heard of only one case of vision damage, and not a single case of heart issues.

Further, you need to understand how it was discovered that Hydroxychloroquine was useful as a prophylactic. It was in China when the epidemic first started and moved quickly. All kinds of people were being hit by the virus. But doctors realized no one with lupus had gotten sick. They did some studies and every one of the people who had lupus were fine on Plaquenil. Other studies showed the same. I heard about this months ago. It was a big worry for the RA community, because it would mean less Plaquenil available for our diseases. In fact, I just read in my group today, that people in Quebec are being refused filling their prescriptions. We are fine, and I have a lot of it, but B.C. has few cases compared to Quebec. And Quebec's COVID-19 infection rate, along with Ontario is increasing rapidly. So, they could be saving it for using it.

At any rate, I know you are a strong Democrat, I have no oar in this game. I will not be voting for the next president. That makes me a bit more objective. You can hate Trump all you want, but his science is not wrong. If you don't like the way he talks, that's your right. But what he is saying about Plaquenil is true. Plaquenil does cure people, and it works prophylactically AND it is not dangerous.

And no amount of politics can change those facts!

It was another form of Hydroxychloroquine and it did kill more than one person over here by heart attack. It was not called Plaquenil. Again the people who died were not under a doctor's care they just decided to do it on their own with bad as in deadly results. We are talking apples and oranges. We are both right in talking about our situations it isn't the same medicine we are talking about but two different forms of that med. So if Trump is taking your pill then hoorah for him.

I would say your news is lying to you. I've never known anyone to die of a heart attack who was using Plaquenil in a situation much like a prophylactic experiment. None of us who are autoimmune and in Plaquenil have COVID-19. No one is dying from the medication. I am certain all these claims of heart disease are greatly exaggerated. I'm an old lady taking it, and I have had no reactions or side effects. Of the 900 people in my RA group, representing thousands of years of being on the drug, I've heard of only one case of vision damage, and not a single case of heart issues.

Further, you need to understand how it was discovered that Hydroxychloroquine was useful as a prophylactic. It was in China when the epidemic first started and moved quickly. All kinds of people were being hit by the virus. But doctors realized no one with lupus had gotten sick. They did some studies and every one of the people who had lupus were fine on Plaquenil. Other studies showed the same. I heard about this months ago. It was a big worry for the RA community, because it would mean less Plaquenil available for our diseases. In fact, I just read in my group today, that people in Quebec are being refused filling their prescriptions. We are fine, and I have a lot of it, but B.C. has few cases compared to Quebec. And Quebec's COVID-19 infection rate, along with Ontario is increasing rapidly. So, they could be saving it for using it.

At any rate, I know you are a strong Democrat, I have no oar in this game. I will not be voting for the next president. That makes me a bit more objective. You can hate Trump all you want, but his science is not wrong. If you don't like the way he talks, that's your right. But what he is saying about Plaquenil is true. Plaquenil does cure people, and it works prophylactically AND it is not dangerous.

And no amount of politics can change those facts!

how do people get the drug without a doctors approval

Through mail order and usually from other countries, I don't do this myself but I know it happens.

Actually my true leanings are Independent but they won't let me vote in the primaries as one. So for many years I was a Republican until Bush Jr came along and turned me to the other party. So no I wouldn't say I'm a strong Democrat. By the way I am married to a Republican and most of his side of the family are the same. Most of my positions are Moderate not leaning way right or left.

I get lumped into the group of Trump haters, Snowflakes, unpatriotic because I am a registered Democrat, unchristian for the same reason. I am so glad that everyone knows what I am without really knowing me.... I try not to call people names, I try to be fair, I try to listen to the other side when they won't give me the same courtesy. But then one far greater than Trump came along many years ago and said if they strike you on one check turn the other if they ask you to walk a mile, walk two. Pray for your enemies, do good to those who curse and abuse you.... It's a tall order to fill and I fail... but I do keep trying.

He doesn't have to be an amazing Christian example, he just has to do his job for we the Christians.

Maybe I’m out of the loop, i thought American and Australian troops have fought along side each other for decades?

Trump is one of the finest Presidents we've had since WWII.

What? The United States has a whole new set of allies now! Russia and North Korea.