CESSATIONISM AND HEALING

Mark 9:23 Jesus said to him, "If you can believe, all things are possible to him who believes."

Jesus never said christians could remain sick without healing. Don't spread lies.

Y: (You): You are unable to read Scripture without your Word of Faith filter.
M: You are unable to read Scripture without your confusion between "signs of healing" and "healing through faith".

Y: Additionally, the atonement assures the restoration of all things, but not in this life. People of real faith await the full restoration. Read Hebrews 11.
M: People in Hebrews 11 subdued kingdoms, received their dead by resurrection, obtained promises, were made strong from weakness etc. But you reject the efficacy of Christ's atonement to heal (Isaiah 53:4) and go to doctors to receive your healing from God. Thus your mediator is doctor not Christ. Apostates do that!

Y: Fake believers like many Word of Faith people have vain hope. They don't have an eternal perspective and look for restoration in this world. Their hope is here.
M: Your vain hope is in the medical doctor. You deny healing because you deny Christ's atonement to heal. You are worser than the word of faith.

Y: By the way, where are your Word of Faith healers in light of Covid 19? Why is Covid 19 still killing people, when Copeland declared it to be gone?
M: Don't teach christians ti look to those healers. Teach christians to look to Christ's atonement with faith! Don't trust copeland, trust Christ's atonement!

Y: Did you know that Copeland declared it to be gone already? LOL. The foolishness of these people is astounding, yet guys like you continue to maintain your claims.
M: The foolishness of you scoffers who can't tell the difference between sign gifts & faith, is ignorance of the truth Covid 19 was sent by God to teach christians healing and protection through faith in Christ's atonement because faith pleases God.
Don't be an apostate forsaking Christ the only Mediator and trusting in doctors as your healing mediators.

You are praying to THE ONE by denying Christ the Mediator's atonement and trust the medical doctor as your mediator. Now, that is apostasy!

Charismatics teach "healing by gifted ministers". Bible teaches about "healing through faith in Christ's atonement".

But those obsessed with charismatics do not understand the difference and start attacking the latter which pleases God.

Thus they leave the atonement for healing as if Christ's atonement is incomplete and thus commit apostasy![/QUOTE]
What is the different between your teaching with the atonement healing and the charismatic few of healing? In the result, both are wrong.

that is just ridiculous. Please lol.

Simply saying ridiculous without stating the reason is indeed ridiculous!

What is the different between your teaching with the atonement healing and the charismatic few of healing? In the result, both are wrong.[/QUOTE]

Mark 9:23: "Jesus said to him, "If you can believe, all things are possible to him who believes.""

Take some time to read the Bible also to know the difference.

They had strife and an unclean heart when they came together...
As I said, they were ¨celebrating¨ in an UNWORTHY manner...forgetting the ONE who purchased them...
they were called to HIS SUPPER, but forgot to keep their eyes on THEIR LORD and that coming to the table in such an unworthy manner, was putting themselves in jeopardy of condemnation...

But that is for GOD to decide, sir.

Not you...

Therefore, sir, what do you say of those Christians who are sick. I would like to know where you think these who are sick will be sir...and the little children, born with defects sir, where will they be.

Mark 9:23: "Jesus said to him, "If you can believe, all things are possible to him who believes.""

Take some time to read the Bible also to know the difference.[/QUOTE]
What happens when a mother prays and prays for her baby to be healed, but the baby is not healed?

You are trying to earn worth before God by your works. If that was possible, Jesus did not have to do perfect good works on our behalf till His death on the cross.

What happens when a mother prays and prays for her baby to be healed, but the baby is not healed?[/QUOTE]

Are you saying Jesus lied in Mark 9:23? Faith is tested for a period but healing is certain.

So you state that GOD heals unbelievers sir...who do NOT even call out to HIM...and yet, you shed a poor light on OUR FATHER, as though, when HIS OWN CHILDREN, purchased by HIS SON, call out to HIM, HE does not listen???????

STOP...stop adding your opinion of WHAT others are doing...do NOT ever speak as if you even THINK you KNOW what I am doing....

Do not ever put ÿou" in any of your future posts.
You sir, do NOT know what anyone is doing...further, you were told not to judge until the time...
You sir, can NOT see where GOD sees
And that is the difference.
What happened in the church at Corinth was because their hearts were distracted...they were too busy looking at their own brothers and trying to outdo their own brothers, they lost sight that it is ONE BODY and we, come together, to celebrate THE LORD...TO GLORIFY HIM...and not ourselves

Luke 17:6: "The Lord said, "If you had faith like a grain of mustard seed, you would tell this sycamore tree, 'Be uprooted, and be planted in the sea,' and it would obey you."

IT is ONLY THROUGH CHRIST THAT WE COME TO THE FATHER BY ONE SPIRIT...sir...
So,you think when I pray to THE ONE who knows me, I am denying CHRIST as the MEDIATOR????
You sir, are the one who should STOP SPREADING LIES

Should I remember to remind mothers of children that are born less than perfect that they did not have enough faith....

Your interpretation of scripture betrays your opinions.

"Through Christ" means trusting only in the merits of Jesus. When you deny healing through faith in Christ's atonement, you are denying Christ's merits.

Are you saying Jesus lied in Mark 9:23? Faith is tested for a period but healing is certain.[/QUOTE]
No sir, I am saying what you said JESUS never said a christian would remain sick. So, if a child, a baby is born imperfect, than what should we think about this? Will you tell the mother it was because her faith in CHRIST to HEAL was NOT SUFFICIENT