Refuting The Cessationism Doctrine: Spiritual Gifts, Tongues, Miracles Haven’t Ceased Since Pentecost!!

Fair enough. I certainly have learned a lot about how others think... and seen very little of mind-changing.

Paul was famous for his miracles. By name and reputation and specific acts duly recorded. Peter also. So please tell me the names of the miracle workers of the last.......hhmmm.....say 20 years as well as as the details of the incidences. Benn Hinn is excluded of course.

Anybody?

There’s a doctrine going around called Cessationism which teaches dat spiritual gifts such as speaking in tongues, prophecy and healing have ceased since pentecost. This is completely bogous and asinine and unbiblical, even I speak in tongues sometimes and after I was born again I started seeing visions which were prophetic and actually came true aswell.


just like the bible says in Joel 2:28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:


the only thing dat has ceased is peoples faith in Gods power as the bible says in 2 timothy 3:5 they have a form of godlyness but they deny the power off.

Lets go 2 the scriptures where there were many miracles done with the power of the holy spirit and where the holy spirit was poured out onto people after pentecost.

Also just 2 mention a prophecy from david in pslams Acts 1:16 Men and brethren, this scripture must needs have been fulfilled, which the Holy Ghost by the mouth of David spake before concerning Judas, which was guide to them that took Jesus.

Acts 2:1 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.

2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.

4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

Acts 5:12 And by the hands of the apostles were many signs and wonders wrought among the people; (and they were all with one accord in Solomon's porch.

Acts 5:15 Insomuch that they brought forth the sick into the streets, and laid them on beds and couches, that at the least the shadow of Peter passing by might overshadow some of them.

16 There came also a multitude out of the cities round about unto Jerusalem, bringing sick folks, and them which were vexed with unclean spirits: and they were healed every one.

Acts 6:5 And the saying pleased the whole multitude: and they chose Stephen, a man full of faith and of the Holy Ghost, and Philip, and Prochorus, and Nicanor, and Timon, and Parmenas, and Nicolas a proselyte of Antioch:



Acts 6:8 And Stephen, full of faith and power, did great wonders and miracles among the people.

Acts 8:5 Then Philip went down to the city of Samaria, and preached Christ unto them.

6 And the people with one accord gave heed unto those things which Philip spake, hearing and seeing the miracles which he did.

Acts 9:40 peter raised a woman from the dead.

Acts 10:43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.

44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.

45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.

46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,

Acts 19:1 And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,

2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.

3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.

4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.

5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.

6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.

So u see hear folks, many works and miracles and out poring of the holy spirit after Pentecost in acts.

Don’t be fooled by these silly erroneous doctrines which go totally against the bible which are purposely made by the enemy 2 deceive you and turn u away from the truth and 2 destroy ur faith.

Take authority against the demons God has given it 2 his children and don’t be fearful, don’t be weary, Luke 10:19 Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.

Okay.
Well I knew this guy whos best friend attended a church service and they had a preacher who healed a man in New Guinea. This preacher fixed this man's leg that was longer than the other and POW! it was shorten to the length of the other leg. I think he said the guy's name was Joe or Jimbo or something like that. The preacher not the New Guinea guy.

You can look it up on Google am sure.

I could claim to be a Mensa genius and some folks would likely believe me

Within the same verse of Scripture being used to claim the Gift of Tongues has ceased, it also lists that knowledge will stop. With access to the internet, I might not be learning more, but I am finding information I had never had access to and at times was unaware of. I would therefore make the claim, if we are still able to learn and gang knowledge, then the Gift of Tongues is still very well in effect.

Copeland shenanigans set to music:

Here is my personal encounter with a miracle, I'll relate what I learned from the beings that I spoke to about it.

I was having my first child and I sat up, altho my body still was lying down. Two vague forms were in the room and I could perceive what they were saying.

They said the baby I was having was shining but the body of the child would cause rears so it should not live. They wondered why humans cry. Please don't ask me what they meant, I am just reporting what happened.

I said the baby meant everything to us, I would teach the child about God and joy, please let the baby live. Their reply was that they could not do anything but follow---oh dear. Our communication was on a different level than speech. I know what they meant. They knew how the world was created to be and they must follow that, and as it was the baby should not live.

They seemed to think it wasn't right that I should enter their world.

Here is my point--they said they would ask permission to bypass how it should be. I think that is how miracles happen. Our world operates by set policies, but God will change it for us if we ask.

And, if you are curious, the baby lived for 21 years. She had extremely severe asthma we had a hard time living happily with and she died of an aneurysm.

The Pentecostal understanding of this verse is far from correct. It does not say all knowledge. It is speaking to the knowledge given to the apostles to declare Christ from the OT scriptures. They did not have the complete NT when this passage was written. Paul is speaking to the completion of the NT scriptures. verse 12 shows those who will read it that we know ourselves in part. Men have always considered themselves righteous. The completed NT shows us how God sees us. The law was to show men they were unable to meet the standard of righteousness expected of God. Now the NT shows us the only Christ met the standard set by God.

Put away the childish things and grow in grace. Man up and trust Gods word to accomplish all that God has determined is should do. What we have here is a simple matter of unbelief. Refusal to believe Gods word and to trust wholly in Him.

Really this is but a childish plea for childish reasons. Most Pentecostals do not believe that God can and will save souls apart from miracles and wonders. Could it be that their personal faith is lacking?

When we appear weakest we are strongest in the Lord.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

You're adding to Scripture to support your understanding. Nowhere in that passage (ch. 12-14) is "knowledge" described as such.


Verse 12 says nothing whatsoever about "reading". You're adding to Scripture again.


You are calling the quotation of and reference to Scripture "childish". That's foolish.

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Paul was famous for his miracles. By name and reputation and specific acts duly recorded. Peter also. So please tell me the names of the miracle workers of the last.......hhmmm.....say 20 years as well as as the details of the incidences. Benn Hinn is excluded of course.

Anybody?