Servus Christi on YouTube......anyone watching his polemics?

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We have to pay attention to association these days with social media and television.
True, there needs to be less compromising with who we show up with on stage. It gives the impression you are in agreement with heretics...unless it is a debate format. A lot of this 'ecumenicalism' showed up big time during the '9-11 solemn interfaith prayer assemblies'.
 

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All part and parcel of the falling away in 2 Thess
 

UnitedWithChrist

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He is very diligent in exposing the pseudo-Christian plague among us. MacArthur and Begg are getting caught up in this mess. Probably due to lust for money. Supposedly MacArthur has a net worth of $14 million, a salary of $400,000 (pastor salary alone) plus other revenues and allowances so all totalled approx $1,000,000 per year.
Servus Christi is a professional heresy hunter.

He is involved with Jacob Prasch's ministry, who is another strange character. He reminds me of a Mafia hit man.

But, I can see why you would refer to Servus Christi. He doesn't like Reformed theology, and you are overjoyed to promote these attacks on Reformed theology.

I am not particularly a fan of John MacArthur because of his dispensationalism, but I doubt that he is a money-grubber. He may have a net worth of $14 million, but how much does he give? That would be the question.

Regarding his salary, I think you are forgetting that he has to live in Los Angeles which does not have the lowest standard of living. I can live very comfortably in my area on $75K (I am on disability and don't receive anywheres near that much) but the same would not be true in Los Angeles.

Additionally, you are using the phrase "supposedly". If you are not confident of the facts, why are you reporting them?

By the way, why don't you point out Billy Graham's net worth at the end of his life?

It was a LOT. I was shocked to know that he was worth so much. It was $25 million, which is almost double John MacArthur's reported figure.

I had heard that Billy Graham basically took a vow of poverty at one point, so I was shocked to hear this figure. And, I still don't know all the details so I am not going to diss Billy Graham over this.

Finances are a lot more complicated than simpletons will acknowledge. Especially simpletons with an agenda. And, it is no accident that you selected two Reformed men to slander.

Regarding Alistair Begg, I trust he is a faithful, solid man of God. However, he doesn't share your theology so he has a target on his back. Like I said, I am not the biggest fan of John MacArthur, but he has solid teachings on many topics, other than dispensationalism and perhaps his overly rigid view of mental health issues (he thinks there is no place for legitimate mental health drugs).

However, if you are an anti-nomian, anti-Reformed person, you will not like him. He believes that real faith produces good works as a fruit of salvation, and many antinomian, dispensationalist types do not like this. They believe in once-saved-always saved, that you can go on in sinful living after salvation, with no regards for holiness, after "praying the prayer" or "going to the altar", and that is just fine. In other words, their claim is that salvation is about mere mental assent, and does not necessarily produce spiritual fruit.

I also assess that Servus Christi is a snake. He has basically targeted everyone but himself. He is some young guy out to expose everyone he can, and to build up his reputation.

I suggest that folks pull up his list of videos on his channel and look at the titles. He's pretty much a professional church critic. He might be right on some of them, and on some details, but his overall mentality is to slander as many Christians as he can. Jacob Prasch has a similar mentality. Both of them think God has promoted them to "discernment ministries" and they are capable of judging the entire church, and exposing solid men of God.

Folks, you might consider the agenda of individuals on this forum. I've been here long enough to identify a few.

And, by the way, you might consider my convictions, too. I am not into charismatic theology. I am not into dispensationalism. I am not into free-willer theology. I am totally transparent about this. However, you have to be here for a while to identify the presuppositions of some people, because they are not transparent about them.
 

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By the way, I'm not a big fan of "discernment ministries" in general.

Why?

One of Satan's tactics is to accuse, and to spread falsehood about believers. This especially involves leaders in God's church.

However, there are false teachers that need to be exposed.

Where is the balance, though?

And, when is it appropriate to operate on a minimal amount of information to make your accusations?

For instance, the original poster or the discernment ministry that he is using for an information source stated solid, indisputable truths about the income of John MacArthur or Alistair Begg. Yet, the original poster and the discernment ministry (Servus Christi) is using their scant information to form an accusation or insinuation about them.

This is actually evil. They don't know whether the figures are accurate, and whether MacArthur or Begg received an inheritance which added to their net worth. They don't know how much MacArthur or Begg give to Christian causes from their income, however much it is.

And, I think the motive actually relates to an intention to discredit someone whose theology they do not appreciate.

Anyways, I invite folks to look down Servus Christi's list of videos. Select a video where he criticizes someone you like, and see if you agree with his assessment. See if he backs his claims up with solid facts, or evil suggestions that are meant to discredit the person.

https://www.youtube.com/user/ambassadortotheKing/videos

This is his Youtube Channel.

His real name is Josh Chavez.
 

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I think the only way to pinpoint error is by comparing each ministry to the historic Ecumenical Creeds.
Insofar as they agree with Scripture. After all aren't they supposed to be a summary of Scripture on certain points?
 

UnitedWithChrist

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By the way, I'm not a big fan of "discernment ministries" in general.

Why?

One of Satan's tactics is to accuse, and to spread falsehood about believers. This especially involves leaders in God's church.

However, there are false teachers that need to be exposed.

Where is the balance, though?

And, when is it appropriate to operate on a minimal amount of information to make your accusations?

For instance, the original poster or the discernment ministry that he is using for an information source stated solid, indisputable truths about the income of John MacArthur or Alistair Begg. Yet, the original poster and the discernment ministry (Servus Christi) is using their scant information to form an accusation or insinuation about them.

This is actually evil. They don't know whether the figures are accurate, and whether MacArthur or Begg received an inheritance which added to their net worth. They don't know how much MacArthur or Begg give to Christian causes from their income, however much it is.

And, I think the motive actually relates to an intention to discredit someone whose theology they do not appreciate.

Anyways, I invite folks to look down Servus Christi's list of videos. Select a video where he criticizes someone you like, and see if you agree with his assessment. See if he backs his claims up with solid facts, or evil suggestions that are meant to discredit the person.

https://www.youtube.com/user/ambassadortotheKing/videos

This is his Youtube Channel.

His real name is Josh Chavez.

Like I stated earlier, Billy Graham's purported wealth at his death was $25 million. He probably received royalties from a lot of books, though. And, he may have received an inheritance from his wife's parents or his parents. He may have donated millions of dollars throughout his life to various causes, too.

Is it really just to assess someone's spirituality based on their salary and their assets? If John MacArthur spent personal time writing books, is it wrong for him to sell them and receive a just recompense for them?

This is assuming that the income and net worth figures are true. And, that's a big assumption in itself. Unless Josh Chavez wants to provide a breakdown of his income, how the income was spent, and how he obtained his assets, I don't think that it's relevant.

Now, if MacArthur was promoting things like "seed money" such as some Word of Faith teachers do, or some other money schemes, I could see a legitimate basis for an accusation.

In fact, he does not promote those things, and has been a vocal critic of the Word of Faith and charismatic communities which practice them.

And, this gets down to what I suspect is the real motive for criticizing these two men: an ad-hominem attack upon the enemies of one's theology.
 

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He is involved with Jacob Prasch's ministry, who is another strange character. He reminds me of a Mafia hit man.
We're not to judge outward appearances.

Jacob Prasch has a similar mentality. Both of them think God has promoted them to "discernment ministries"
How do you know what they think? Do you have clips where they state such?
 

Sans

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We should listen to voices of warning... take what they report, find out if it is verifiable and in proper context, and search the scriptures to see if they are in line with scripture or out in left field. Jesus warned us not to be deceived and satan will flood you with truth to float one lie.
 

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We have to pay attention to association these days with social media and television.
Amen. Quite frankly most of the hacks and apostates are self-evident. Some others are subtlety eroding into the darkness. These are the greatest threat. I honestly believe that the motivation is lust for the appertinances of this present age....popularity, growth.....and the payoff the money.

The woman rides the beast.
 

Sans

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Want a great read... A Woman Rides the Beast by Dave Hunt
 

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Obviously Servus Christi doesn't always go on the attack. Here is a decent offering on the fact that life's a vapor and we ought to live accordingly.

 

Sans

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When he is on the attack I have never disagreed that I can remember
 
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MacArthurs early years (80s-90s) were fruitful IMO. Unfortunately, he and too many others want expansion (and the $$$$$$ that go with it) at any cost. When you havea payroll where mid-level pastors are earning $150K and up from there, your Church becomes a cash cow for the management at the expense of missionaries etc.
I listened to a sermon today about the way modern Churches are being run as c operations. The speaker explained how they operate and it's quite sobering.
It's well worth a listen, if you get the chance.
https://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=4202012805156
 

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I listened to a sermon today about the way modern Churches are being run as c operations. The speaker explained how they operate and it's quite sobering.
It's well worth a listen, if you get the chance.
https://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=4202012805156
I'm glad you ran across this Scott... But the fact is that the church in the USA signed off on being beholden to the federal government a long, long time ago. The machine of organized christianity has a template that has nothing to do with anything in scripture.
 

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why are you all 'seeking' man's so called wisdom and interpretation??? can see this if you were young, but come on,
after 'conversion', man's wisdom becomes worldly abomination compared to God's Perfect Truth -
why are you seeking or god forbid, connecting yourselves with satan's pawns???
 

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why are you all 'seeking' man's so called wisdom and interpretation??? can see this if you were young, but come on,
after 'conversion', man's wisdom becomes worldly abomination compared to God's Perfect Truth -
why are you seeking or god forbid, connecting yourselves with satan's pawns???[/QUOT
Thanks for the meaningless and condescending post!
 

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He is very diligent in exposing the pseudo-Christian plague among us. MacArthur and Begg are getting caught up in this mess. Probably due to lust for money. Supposedly MacArthur has a net worth of $14 million, a salary of $400,000 (pastor salary alone) plus other revenues and allowances so all totalled approx $1,000,000 per year.
Josh isn't a positive alternative, I'll just say that.
Anyone can find out about "SC". Just search Servus Christi Fraud. Lots of reading.
 

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Servus Christi is a professional heresy hunter.

He is involved with Jacob Prasch's ministry, who is another strange character. He reminds me of a Mafia hit man.

But, I can see why you would refer to Servus Christi. He doesn't like Reformed theology, and you are overjoyed to promote these attacks on Reformed theology.

I am not particularly a fan of John MacArthur because of his dispensationalism, but I doubt that he is a money-grubber. He may have a net worth of $14 million, but how much does he give? That would be the question.

Regarding his salary, I think you are forgetting that he has to live in Los Angeles which does not have the lowest standard of living. I can live very comfortably in my area on $75K (I am on disability and don't receive anywheres near that much) but the same would not be true in Los Angeles.

Additionally, you are using the phrase "supposedly". If you are not confident of the facts, why are you reporting them?

By the way, why don't you point out Billy Graham's net worth at the end of his life?

It was a LOT. I was shocked to know that he was worth so much. It was $25 million, which is almost double John MacArthur's reported figure.

I had heard that Billy Graham basically took a vow of poverty at one point, so I was shocked to hear this figure. And, I still don't know all the details so I am not going to diss Billy Graham over this.

Finances are a lot more complicated than simpletons will acknowledge. Especially simpletons with an agenda. And, it is no accident that you selected two Reformed men to slander.

Regarding Alistair Begg, I trust he is a faithful, solid man of God. However, he doesn't share your theology so he has a target on his back. Like I said, I am not the biggest fan of John MacArthur, but he has solid teachings on many topics, other than dispensationalism and perhaps his overly rigid view of mental health issues (he thinks there is no place for legitimate mental health drugs).

However, if you are an anti-nomian, anti-Reformed person, you will not like him. He believes that real faith produces good works as a fruit of salvation, and many antinomian, dispensationalist types do not like this. They believe in once-saved-always saved, that you can go on in sinful living after salvation, with no regards for holiness, after "praying the prayer" or "going to the altar", and that is just fine. In other words, their claim is that salvation is about mere mental assent, and does not necessarily produce spiritual fruit.

I also assess that Servus Christi is a snake. He has basically targeted everyone but himself. He is some young guy out to expose everyone he can, and to build up his reputation.

I suggest that folks pull up his list of videos on his channel and look at the titles. He's pretty much a professional church critic. He might be right on some of them, and on some details, but his overall mentality is to slander as many Christians as he can. Jacob Prasch has a similar mentality. Both of them think God has promoted them to "discernment ministries" and they are capable of judging the entire church, and exposing solid men of God.

Folks, you might consider the agenda of individuals on this forum. I've been here long enough to identify a few.

And, by the way, you might consider my convictions, too. I am not into charismatic theology. I am not into dispensationalism. I am not into free-willer theology. I am totally transparent about this. However, you have to be here for a while to identify the presuppositions of some people, because they are not transparent about them.
I am merely sounding an alarm. Furthermore, I am not anti-reformed. As for Begg, try if you will to find ONE SERMON where he declares his own end-time eschatological views clearly. IMO Begg is a closet amillenialist and preterist. There was one short sermon on Matt 24 and he was a mess. Begg holds to the Sethite view of Gen 6....ridiculous. R.C. Sproul was a classical Reformed Theologian, will all the baggage of error.

Chuck Missler is my mentor personally. His views are the closest to the mark as I can find.