A new look at Colossians 2:16

Jeremiah says the New Covenant completely replaced the Ten Commandments (the Old Covenant). So trying to introduce it into the New Covenant adds to God's words.

“Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, That I will make a new covenant With the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant (Ten Commandments) that I made with their fathers In the day that I took them by the hand To bring them out of the land of Egypt; Which my covenant they brake, Although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD: But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, And write it in their hearts; And will be their God, And they shall be my people. And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: For they shall all know me, From the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: For I will forgive their iniquity, And I will remember their sin no more.” Jeremiah 31:31–34 (KJV 1900)

It is my considered understanding that the Two Great Laws of Love are on our hearts now, and these two great laws obeyed are what we must live and do

I see the Ten commandments as making up love and needful to be obeyed for they were taken from stone and placed, engraved on , the tablets of our hearts.

Going through them one by one, it is impossible to find error in their wisdom, at leasst for me it is.

May all be blessed in Jesus-Yeshua, and hear His voice in regards to this suibject for He has been plainly teaching it sinnce He came to die for us each.

What Colossians 2:16 is saying is that none of the things listed really matter.

Doing them will not make a person clean.

Not doing them will not make a person un-clean.


Galatians 5:1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.

Hebrews 7:18-19
18 For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof.
19 For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.

How can men decide that Sunday should be the Sabbath? If God made the seventh day the Sabbath and blessed it, surely men have no power to change it, anymore than they can make a union of sodomites a marriage?

However, if men choose to communally worship their Lord on a Sunday, in honour of their Lord's resurrection ushuring in the New Covenant in His blood on this day, what is that to you?

Dave-l, are you joking here??? Where are you getting your info??? You are so far off base your not even on this planet. What ever gave you the idea that the Old Covenant was just the ten commandments??? The Mosaic Law/Covenant was way more then just the ten commandments.
The content of the Law is spread among the books of Exodus, Leviticus, and Numbers, and then reiterated and added to in Deuteronomy. This includes:
the Ten Commandments, Moral laws - on murder, theft, honesty, adultery, etc, Social laws - on property, inheritance, marriage and divorce, Food laws - on what is clean and unclean, on cooking and storing food, Purity laws - on menstruation, seminal emissions, skin disease and mildew, etc, Feasts - the Day of Atonement, Passover, Feast of Tabernacles, Feast of Unleavened Bread, Feast of Weeks etc, Sacrifices and offerings - the sin offering, burnt offering, whole offering, heave offering, Passover sacrifice, meal offering, wave offering, peace offering, drink offering, thank offering, dough offering, incense offering, red heifer, scapegoat, first fruits, etc, Instructions for the priesthood and the high priest including tithes, Instructions regarding the Tabernacle, and which were later applied to the Temple in Jerusalem, including those concerning the Holy of Holies containing the Ark of the Covenant (in which were the tablets of the law, Aaron's rod, the manna). Instructions and for the construction of various altars and Forward looking instructions for time when Israel would demand a king.
Not only are you super short here but trying to claim that God completely replaced the old covenant is a contradiction to the words of Christ
Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill.
Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Mat 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
Do you see those words in Matthew 5:17?? "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill."
God did not ever destroy or do away with any of the ten commandments and they still apply today. Unless you want to call Christ a liar.There are some things that Christ did away with such as animal sacrifices and the rituals that went along with them but any law that had anything to do with the moral or spiritual integrity of a believer was never made less, but it was made more refined.

Here's proof the Ten Commandments were the Old Covenant.

The Ten Commandments were the Old Covenant


“And He (God) wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments.” Exodus 34:28



“And He declared unto you His covenant, which He commanded you to perform, even the Ten Commandments.” Deuteronomy 4:13:



“When I was gone up into the mount to receive the tables of stone, even the tables of the covenant.” Deuteronomy 9:9:



“So I turned and came down from the mount . . . and the two tables of the covenant were in my two hands.” Deuteronomy 9:15:


“There was nothing in the ark save the two tables of stone which Moses put there at Horeb, when Jehovah made a covenant with the children of Israel, when they came out of the land of Egypt,” I Kings 8:9


“And there have I set a place for the ark, wherein is the covenant of Jehovah, which he made with our fathers, when he brought them out of the land of Egypt.” I Kings 8:21


The second of these two texts is repeated in II Chronicles 6:11.


Consider “The ark of the covenant” that held the Ten Commandments (Numbers 10:33; Jeremiah 3:16, and other places)


Also; “It contained the golden altar of incense and the ark of the covenant covered entirely with gold. In this ark were the golden urn containing the manna, Aaron’s rod that budded, and the stone tablets of the covenant.” (Hebrews 9:4) (NET)

like this?

sunday is not sabbath.
it is the 8th day, which is the 1st day.
it is the day Christ arose. the day after His rest in the earth.
it is the day He made new.

I think it is garbage and a false teaching. God never changed the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday. Do the research and you will find that for the fist 300 years or so of the early church the Sabbath was kept on Saturday. But after Constantine the Great merged the power of the Roman church with the riches of the state and the church and state became one, the Roman Church changed the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday. The belief is that Constantine wanted to set aside a special day for Christ so he designated Saturday to be "Sons Day". But to make it short I will just say that the Roman church compromised it's integrity and adopted pagan ritual into the church and that is how the Sabbath was changed and that is why we now call our day of worship Sun-day.
The relationship between the Roman church and the Jerusalem church was a continuous relationship for a very long time because the Roman church was always trying to change things like what day should Easter should be celebrated on so on. Eventually the power of the Jerusalem Church faded while the power of the Roman church became stronger and more wide spread so that the Jerusalem was no longer. This is why we now have so called Christian Holy Days such as Christmas and all of the pagan traditions and pagan rituals that folks perform in their efforts to worship Christ.

. . . having disarmed the powers and authorities, He made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross.
Therefore

but the substance is Christ

No wrong again. The "Old Covenant" Included the ten commandment but it was not just the ten commandments. The Ten Commandments are the basis or foundation for God's everlasting Covenant.
What was included in the Old Covenant?
So keeping this plain and simple and in regards to the law and salvation, the Old Covenant had the Law of Moses, which was written in a book by his own hand and the Ten Commandments, which were written in stone by the very finger of God Himself.

The Law of Moses is also called the “Book of the Covenant” or “Book of the Law,” “Mosaic Law,” “Ordinances” and the “Ceremonial Law” etc. The Ten Commandments are also called the “Two tablets of the Testimony,” “Moral Law” and the “Decalogue” etc. This law is love and a reflection of God's character.

The Law of Moses was stored in the side of the Ark of the Covenant and was a temporary law that was nailed to the cross as it was practised because of sin until Christ came and took the place of this Law. Deuteronomy 31:24-26 “And it came to pass, when Moses had made an end of writing the words of this law in a book, until they were finished, 25 That Moses commanded the Levites, which bare the ark of the covenant of the LORD, saying, 26 Take this book of the law, and put it in the SIDE of the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God, that it may be there for a witness against you.”

The Ten Commandments on the other hand were stored on the inside of the Ark of the Covenant under the mercy seat and is eternal in nature and was NOT nailed to the cross as breaking this Law is sin. Exodus 34:28 “And he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he did neither eat bread, nor drink water. And he wrote upon the tables [stone] the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments.” Deuteronomy 10:5 “And I turned myself and came down from the mount, and put the tables IN the ark which I had made; and there they be, as the LORD commanded me.”

It's an old interpretation; one which ignores the next verse, which Posthuman has already noted.

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i agree that the rest of the Law is elaboration on the principles in the decalogue. but the marvelous thing is that Jesus Himself said that all of the law and the prophets are based on two things: love the LORD and love one another -- yet neither of these are in the decalogue!
this speaks to an amazing thing, that the law is based on principles higher than the law - as the decalogue forms an underpinning for the law, the great commandment, and the next, form the underpinning even of it. and these two 'commands' are not even the basis of righteousness! because both of these are testimonies of Christ Jesus the Eternal Son -- who loves the Father eternally, and who gives Himself for love to us.

it is not Leviticus that God writes in our heart when He makes it anew; it is love for God and for others. it is not Deuteronomy written on the redeemed heart; it is Christ, and we are being conformed to Him.

Grandpa fixed the meaning of the vers very good in his Post.

The Ten Commandments were the Old Covenant proven by the scriptures I posted. They also had ordinances connected to them that are also abolished.

The shadow is in respect to the things seen the temporal (days and foods) .They are used to reveal the unseen spiritual . The glorious substance .

The formula for searching the signified understanding in parables as for silver and gold. Mixing the things seen with the unseen eternal or called walking by faith .The gospel of rest .

2 Corinthians 4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

Isa 28:11 For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people.
Isa 28:12 To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear.

Mat 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
Mat 11:29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
Mat 11:30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

In the New Testament God said that when a person receives the Spirit that is the refreshing, and the rest, but they would not hear.

When a person receives the Spirit then they are part of the body of Christ.

It is spiritual now in the New Testament and not physical ordinances.

Jesus said He gives a new commandment to the saints that they love one another.

And love works no ill towards their neighbor, therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

And out of faith, hope, and charity, love in action, charity is the greatest.

If love is the fulfilling of the law then what does physical ordinances have to do with spiritual salvation.

Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
Col 2:15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.

Jesus blotted out the physical ordinances of Israel, nailing them to His cross, for they were contrary to us, which means they had no bearing on spiritual salvation.

Jesus nailed them to His cross, and took it out of the way, like He took our sins away at the cross.

Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Col 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

Let no person judge you and tell you to keep those physical ordinances for you do not have to go by them.

Which they were only a shadow of things to come for they were physical ordinances, not spiritual, but the body is of Christ, so once you are part of the body of Christ it is spiritual, and the physical ordinances do not apply.

Eph 2:14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
Eph 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
Eph 2:16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
Eph 2:17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.
Eph 2:18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.

The Jews went by the physical ordinances, and it was not given to the Gentiles.

But Jesus broke down the middle wall of partition between Jews and Gentiles having abolished in His flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances.

So here it says that Jesus took away those physical ordinances the same as Colossians 2:14-17.

In Colossians it is stating that Jesus took away the physical ordinances, nailing them to His cross, so a person does not have to go by them for they have no bearing on spiritual salvation, but receiving the Spirit and being a part of the body of Christ is their spiritual salvation.

Jesus said the physical ordinances were against us, and the enmity, and a shadow of things to come which pass away when they are part of the body of Christ, so how would a person think that it is stating do not let anyone judge you by telling you not to keep them, which it would be stating do not let anyone judge you for not keeping them.

Rom 14:5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
Rom 14:6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.

But if they want to worship on Saturday, or Sunday, then there is no big deal, but since it is a spiritual rest then every day is the sabbath, and the early Church met daily with each other.

If you want to stay away from certain meats, good, if you want to hold a feast, good, if you want to worship on Saturday, good.

But it has no bearing on spiritual salvation, and if it does not have a bearing on spiritual salvation we do not have to obey it, and love of people is the fulfilling of the law, and if it is the fulfilling of the law what more do you need.

For a person can only love people perfectly if they have the Spirit, and if they have the Spirit then they believe in God, and confess Jesus, so they are right with God.

Love of people is the fulfilling of the law which we can do by the Spirit, so why would we need physical ordinances, which Jesus said they were our enemy for they had no bearing on spiritual salvation.

1Co 15:46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
1Co 15:47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.
1Co 15:48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.

The Old Testament was a physical covenant with physical blessings, but the spiritual law was will there the laws of love, moral laws.

The New Testament is a spiritual covenant with spiritual blessings, and the physical ordinances do not apply, for they are a shadow of things to come, but the body is of Christ.