Not By Works

Prior to my conversion several years ago while still attending the Roman Catholic church, I subscribed to NOSAS and I had no joy either and was miserable! Fear and bondage to IN-security is no way to live the Christian life.

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I’m sorry John 5.24 bothers you. What a sad existence you lead.

The new osas can not produce the genuine joy and peace of God, only a fleshly counterfeit:.

That verse says sooooo much...
A good few gems in there...
...xox...

Many think embracing the doctrine of osas means you've arrived. No, you've arrived when you start acting like Christ.

You've arrived when your love for God compels you to be obedient.
Arrived as in a mature Christian seasoned in the truth.

He is solid ground not shifting sand.

"Now we who have believed enter that rest" - Hebrews 4:3

But it is our responsibility to enter that rest:

Jesus clearly states He will give us rest, but once again you take a free gift and place undue burdens upon those who accept Jesus’ free gift.

Arrived where?

Works salvation ^^^^^

John 5.24 is arguably the most profound verse of all underrated verses in Scripture.

Ultimately, of course, but we're talking about the life of the saved person:

"The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love." - Galatians 5:6

"17For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit, 18because anyone who serves Christ in this way is pleasing to God" - Romans 14:17-18

But osas would have you believe that what matters is that you know and accept the doctrine of osas. There's nothing evenly remotely true about that. You can take comfort all day long in what you know but if you don't have........well, we'll let Paul say it:

"2If I...can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." - 1 Corinthians 13:2

But osas makes it's followers think that believing in the doctrine about osas is what it means to really know God and please Him. Not knowing that thinking actually takes away from what really matters in the life of the Christian. It provides a false sense of comfort and assurance by directing attention away from that which actually gives comfort and assurance--how you act--and to that which does not.


That's why we should continue to believe!


We know from the whole counsel of scripture that as long as the deceived believer responds to God's correction they will continue in the surety of Christ. Much depends on how deeply rooted the Word of God is in a believer.

The good and noble soil that allows the Word to be firmly and deeply rooted in it is the soil that perseveres in fruitfulness. While the believers with the shallow, rocky soil in which the Word can not be firmly and deeply rooted "believe for a while, but in the time of testing they fall away." (Luke 8:13).

That doesn't mean, categorically, that all 2nd type of soil believers fall away, or fall away and don't come back. It means that is the kind of soil for which that is likely to happen, i.e. the Galatians. No immature, 2nd type of soil believer has any claim to some kind of osas status. If anybody does it is the mature 4th kind of soil believer.

There are as many OSAS members on CC who pity your state of existence because you’ve yet to experience the true essence of the Gospel.

I’m sorry John 5.24 bothers you.

The true essence of the gospel is believing in osas?
That's a joke.

The true essence of the gospel is knowing Christ intimately.
You know you have that intimate relationship when you obey God's commands.
Don't get mad at me for bursting your bubble, that's what the Bible says.

True or not, osas doctrine is hardly the measure of a knowing, intimate relationship with Christ.
No doctrinal belief is the measure of a knowing, intimate relationship with Christ.
Obeying God's commands is.

Osas believers are especially deceived about this.
They need to grow up into that which matters.
Osas makes people think they have achieved some kind of great relationship with God.
No, the life of love for others shows you have achieved a mature, 'knowing' relationship with God.
Time for osas to get off of it's high horse and stop looking down on others.

Some believers works will be burned because they lived for self, yet they will be saved.

Eternally saved is the Gospel .... Jesus offers nothing less.

As profound and true as it is, it is still the baby milk message of the gospel.
Babies should now grow up into the meat of the word by obeying God in righteousness.

"13Anyone who lives on milk, being still an infant, is not acquainted with the teaching about righteousness. 14But solid food is for the mature, who by constant use have trained themselves to distinguish good from evil." - Hebrews 5:13-14

1Therefore let us move beyond the elementary teachings about Christ and be taken forward to maturity "

Hebrews 5:13-14, 6:1

Osas keeps babies sucking on the baby milk of the gospel and doesn't do much toward getting believers to grow up into that which matters because they think their supreme, esoteric knowledge of osas is the meat and end-all of the gospel.

Osas'ers think they've arrived and look down on everyone else when in fact they are just starting out, and worst of all, don't move forward to maturity. Why would they? They think they are there already by believing osas doctrine. That's not even remotely true. Even if osas was true.