Media failing us again, sensationalizing Covid-19

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This might help those who are feeling high levels of anxiety and stress over Coronavirus, I've fact checked what I can in this video and everything that I've come accross is accurate....its from the United Kingdom where the death toll was initially forecast to be around a couple hundred thousand, and now that's being dialed way way way down to something around 20,000....

Please watch and comment:

Rhetoric with no facts because no data is given, no formulas, no charts...supposition, assumptions and faulty analogies.

What is giving me anxiety is the naysayers with their heads in the sand.
 
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my bust its elderly are more likely to die from the flu, as I mentioned how many nurses and doctors die from treating flu patients. Italy a major hot spot are loosing doctors from the pandemic that is not heard of with treating flu patients not saying there hasn’t been or it doesn’t happen few cases of that rather it is becoming part of the fight against the coronavirus, the health care workings are scared working on the frontlines tells a lot about it. I hardly believe it’s a mass conspiracy or payed actors as one poster said not sure in thus thread but that’s ignorant
 
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Rhetoric with no facts because no data is given, no formulas, no charts...supposition, assumptions and faulty analogies.

What is giving me anxiety is the naysayers with their heads in the sand.
You're suffering from what is called confirmation bias.....you have formed the opinion that the coronavirus is an extreme and dire health emergency, thus any news that doesn't agree with your opinion must be wrong. Given that the overwhelming majority of MSM coverage confirms your opinion, you view anything contrary....it has to be wrong. We live in a black and white world these days, everything is either right or wrong, good or evil....people are sinners or saints. Reality of course is different....we're all sinners, but sometimes and hopefully often we can act as saints.

Watch more of the videos from that news source, in addition to the graphics and data given in the video I linked there are other with even more in depth analysis. This one analyzes the first

Why you would say "with no facts because no data is given"??? is interesting, and it makes me question whether you even watched this new story at all? It includes an analysis of the first 386 deaths in the UK, that's data. Saying that the "majority was elderly" simply means that at least half were elderly....whatever elderly means, to a 20 year old I'm elderly. Eye popping is that 98% of the first 386 deaths were people suffering from underlying health conditions....

More interesting though is the presentation of simple verifiable facts, like that ~600,000 people die in the UK every year, and that the majority of those dying are both elderly and in poor health.

There's lots of data being presented, and lots of analysis....especially about the human cost of what we're doing to combat coronavirus. If you like charts and more in depth analysis this one is even better:

 

blue_ladybug

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my bust its elderly are more likely to die from the flu, as I mentioned how many nurses and doctors die from treating flu patients. Italy a major hot spot are loosing doctors from the pandemic that is not heard of with treating flu patients not saying there hasn’t been or it doesn’t happen few cases of that rather it is becoming part of the fight against the coronavirus, the health care workings are scared working on the frontlines tells a lot about it. I hardly believe it’s a mass conspiracy or payed actors as one poster said not sure in thus thread but that’s ignorant

Darn you, auto carrot!!!
 
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A quick note on the Oxford study....Britains two most famous universites are Cambridge and Oxford. Cambridge is generally considered the more conservative of the two, hosting people like Jordan Peterson for symposiums.....Oxford by contrast is more classicly liberal...not that it matters but I do know some Liberal types will give more weight to inforamtion that comes from Oxford.
 
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You're suffering from what is called confirmation bias.....you have formed the opinion that the coronavirus is an extreme and dire health emergency, thus any news that doesn't agree with your opinion must be wrong. Given that the overwhelming majority of MSM coverage confirms your opinion, you view anything contrary....it has to be wrong. We live in a black and white world these days, everything is either right or wrong, good or evil....people are sinners or saints. Reality of course is different....we're all sinners, but sometimes and hopefully often we can act as saints.

Watch more of the videos from that news source, in addition to the graphics and data given in the video I linked there are other with even more in depth analysis. This one analyzes the first

Why you would say "with no facts because no data is given"??? is interesting, and it makes me question whether you even watched this new story at all? It includes an analysis of the first 386 deaths in the UK, that's data. Saying that the "majority was elderly" simply means that at least half were elderly....whatever elderly means, to a 20 year old I'm elderly. Eye popping is that 98% of the first 386 deaths were people suffering from underlying health conditions....

More interesting though is the presentation of simple verifiable facts, like that ~600,000 people die in the UK every year, and that the majority of those dying are both elderly and in poor health.

There's lots of data being presented, and lots of analysis....especially about the human cost of what we're doing to combat coronavirus. If you like charts and more in depth analysis this one is even better:

That is changing, today, two teens and a 19 year old man,

April 1 (GMT)
  • 4324 new cases and 563 new deaths in the United Kingdom: including 2 teenagers, a 13-year-old boy, and a 19-year-old man
 
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Hmm if it stays at only around 500 a day then 15,000 will be reached in 30 days, Italy is fast reaching the 20,000 mark they are at 13,000
 
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Here in Canada a huge component of the death totals is coming from Nursing Homes....aged people with underlying health issues. How many of them would have died regardless of the coronavirus is an open question of course, but obviously they're all pretty much at the end of their lives.

Those who are young and otherwise healthy....the statistics so far indicate that contracting coronavirus in the overwhelming majority of cases is not fatal....same as with the seasonal flu.
same thing here in Ohio.

COVID19 causes severe respiratory illness, which leads to severe pneumonia. thats why when it reaches our elderly. like those on nursing homes, It is overtaking many of them. Their bodies can not fight pneumonia.

My dad just died last week from pneumonia caused by an aspiration event, He was on his way to recovery and doing good and his heart just stopped. Younger people can handle pneumonia much better, I had it when I was 19. Hardly even took me down.. Felt like a bad flue. but I was still active. If i gor the same today, it would take me down, but hopefully not out.
 
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same thing here in Ohio.

COVID19 causes severe respiratory illness, which leads to severe pneumonia. thats why when it reaches our elderly. like those on nursing homes, It is overtaking many of them. Their bodies can not fight pneumonia.

My dad just died last week from pneumonia caused by an aspiration event, He was on his way to recovery and doing good and his heart just stopped. Younger people can handle pneumonia much better, I had it when I was 19. Hardly even took me down.. Felt like a bad flue. but I was still active. If i gor the same today, it would take me down, but hopefully not out.
Sorry to hear that blue ladybug, :(
 
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A buddy of mine for years now lives in south Jersey but works in northern Delaware. He just called because he has friends that live in NYC. People there that have the Coronavirus are jumping out of high rises to their death. I'm thinking they left notes behind. They figure they're going to die a horrific death due to CV so instead of that they jump.

Unbelievable! Not everyone who gets this thing dies. I blame media for sensationalizing it.
Now to hear tell it, Pelosi is calling for impeachment of Trump again due to his inaction and delay in addressing Corona. What a pathetic creature she is. She forgets we remember that the Left wing fools she speaks for told Trump he couldn't do anything without their approval when he first wanted to attack this threat.
Lets impeach them for a change.
Pelosi is said to have the virus but it isn't in the news due to the public response it would generate.
 

blue_ladybug

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same thing here in Ohio.

COVID19 causes severe respiratory illness, which leads to severe pneumonia. thats why when it reaches our elderly. like those on nursing homes, It is overtaking many of them. Their bodies can not fight pneumonia.

My dad just died last week from pneumonia caused by an aspiration event, He was on his way to recovery and doing good and his heart just stopped. Younger people can handle pneumonia much better, I had it when I was 19. Hardly even took me down.. Felt like a bad flue. but I was still active. If i gor the same today, it would take me down, but hopefully not out.

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SoulWeaver

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Jesus told a parable of the ten wise and ten foolish virgins. I think its good to have a recap of what that parable was.
If you're talking about stocking up, you've got to understand that not everyone can afford to be stocked up like that in advance, some (like me) have tiny freezers too, because we are renting. Wishes don't always agree with possibilities. It's not feasible for everyone to build own nuclear shelter for every imaginable disaster in order to achieve self reliance. So it was quite arrogant from people who ran to stores first (they weren't stocked up either) to tell others "why didn't you think earlier" as if everyone rushing to the store earlier would somehow multiply the amount of goods so that everyone is covered.
 

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So it is the problem of the state. My little home country has lysol public cysterns people can take however they need for free, and the state limited panic shoppers quickly so everybody has everything, military made improvised hospitals, rules are being enforced. Meanwhile here I am in a first world country where there is no lysol and people auction tampons, and people stick to you behind cashbox despite warnings. And they tell you if you dont have hand sanitizer how to make your own hand sanitizer with alcohol that is nowhere to be found. Don't mean to bash the US but they handled this poorly. Hopefully everyone will be prepared better next time.
 
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7seasrekeyed

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A buddy of mine for years now lives in south Jersey but works in northern Delaware. He just called because he has friends that live in NYC. People there that have the Coronavirus are jumping out of high rises to their death. I'm thinking they left notes behind. They figure they're going to die a horrific death due to CV so instead of that they jump.

Unbelievable! Not everyone who gets this thing dies. I blame media for sensationalizing it.
Now to hear tell it, Pelosi is calling for impeachment of Trump again due to his inaction and delay in addressing Corona. What a pathetic creature she is. She forgets we remember that the Left wing fools she speaks for told Trump he couldn't do anything without their approval when he first wanted to attack this threat.
Lets impeach them for a change.
Pelosi is said to have the virus but it isn't in the news due to the public response it would generate.

you have to understand her brain is manipulated by unseen forces

if people are actually jumping, they are also influenced by unseen forces
 
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So it is the problem of the state. My little home country has lysol public cysterns people can take however they need for free, and the state limited panic shoppers quickly so everybody has everything, military made improvised hospitals, rules are being enforced. Meanwhile here I am in a first world country where there is no lysol and people auction tampons, and people stick to you behind cashbox despite warnings. And they tell you if you dont have hand sanitizer how to make your own hand sanitizer with alcohol that is nowhere to be found. Don't mean to bash the US but they handled this poorly. Hopefully everyone will be prepared better next time.

people are too used to having anything and everything they want the moment they want it

entitlement is another problem

people here were not expecting to be like everyone else

as a non-American living in the US, (as are you) you see this even without a 'pandemic'

and remember...Trump wanted to shut down things...China etc...before it actually happened..and all the dems screamed about how he was anti this and anti that

now they flip it

the stories change minute by minute...my husband had to go to Lowes the other day to purchase something and he said the store was crowded. however, we live in FL and apparently deSantis has caved and is closing down the state...personally, I think that is overkill
 
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Are you serious or being funny?
it isn't funny

how can you actually kill yourself over this?

it's a desperate world without God

shrug if you want, but the insanity of the left is definitely influenced by evil