Trump - puppet or savior?

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Trump - puppet or savior?


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Would you be ok with Trump setting curfews and quarantining people to their homes? Would be ok with marshal law? I'm not judging anyone, I just want to see where God's people stand on this, especially how long they will support Trump's actions.
Depends how serious this gets. It may very well be necessary. If it does get to that point I wouldn't blame Trump so much as I'd blame the globalists and their doting upon their foreign lovers which brought yet another problem for my generation.
 

bojack

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I think God could put a man in the oval office contrary to the wishes of the elite, but what I don't see in Trump is evidence of that, especially right now. He is as much a part of this as all the rest.

He's not standing against all of these intrusive and destructive measures being put in place. From what I see, again especially through this Coronavirus "crisis", he is perfectly aligned to the NWO agenda.
Do you think he is against open borders or man made global warming carbon tax, are you for it ..
 
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Do you think he is against open borders or man made global warming carbon tax, are you for it ..
He says he's against those things but I don't know if he really is. I don't see us slowing down at all in our march to the new world order. I'm against all of that.

Anytime there's a "crisis" we usually speed up the march.
 

bojack

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He says he's against those things but I don't know if he really is. I don't see us slowing down at all in our march to the new world order. I'm against all of that.

Anytime there's a "crisis" we usually speed up the march.
Do you think the dem libs and RINO's are for it ?
 
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Do you think the dem libs and RINO's are for it ?
I think all politics is like pro wrestling. One group caters to the left and the other group caters to the right, but all of them work for the same shadow government.

Democrats are going to say what their constituents want to hear and Republicans do the same.
 

bojack

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I think all politics is like pro wrestling. One group caters to the left and the other group caters to the right, but all of them work for the same shadow government.

Democrats are going to say what their constituents want to hear and Republicans do the same.
They'd have to get our guns first before I lose hope ..
6 He spake also this parable; A certain man had a fig tree planted in his vineyard; and he came and sought fruit thereon, and found none.
7 Then said he unto the dresser of his vineyard, Behold, these three years I come seeking fruit on this fig tree, and find none: cut it down; why cumbereth it the ground?
8 And he answering said unto him, Lord, let it alone this year also, till I shall dig about it, and dung it:
9 And if it bear fruit, well: and if not, then after that thou shalt cut it down.
 
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Don't lose hope, we'll make it through. From what I've seen over the past 30 years it's being done in incremental changes... sort of like the frog in the hot water.

Most kids today actually want the government to take care of them. SMH
 

bojack

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Don't lose hope, we'll make it through. From what I've seen over the past 30 years it's being done in incremental changes... sort of like the frog in the hot water.

Most kids today actually want the government to take care of them. SMH
Actually, I meant hope in Trump .. Right now I'm enjoying the show and I've got the Presidents back 100% ..
 

Platosgal

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The way I see it, by all of this mass hysteria over a flu bug, shutting businesses down, crippling the economy spending a trillion dollars on bailouts and stimulus... I don't think he's got our best interest in mind.

Just like 911, we will never be the same after all of this.
Is it possible that there is a reason for this? It may be meant to kill our country? But I think if Christians pray, what Satan ment for evil, God will use for good. I for one am praying for a quick resolve, for restoration of our businesses, and for this time to make the Drama Barons - Die off slowly, no one can protest if they are afraid. And Order can be restored - because we are on pause. Pray for our country
 
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Is it possible that there is a reason for this? It may be meant to kill our country? But I think if Christians pray, what Satan ment for evil, God will use for good. I for one am praying for a quick resolve, for restoration of our businesses, and for this time to make the Drama Barons - Die off slowly, no one can protest if they are afraid. And Order can be restored - because we are on pause. Pray for our country
We'll have to wait and see what happens. I'm hoping for a speedy end to it and get back to normal.
 

Billyd

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The only thing that President Trump, like all other politicians, is how what he does will add to his pocketbook.

The right loves him because, as he benefits, he adds a few cents to their own pocketbook. The left hates him because he hasn't yet put enough in their pockets. This corona virus fiasco is about to change everything because the president's pocketbook is about to get bigger, and the left will start getting a few dollars more.
 

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Would you be ok with Trump setting curfews and quarantining people to their homes? Would be ok with marshal law? I'm not judging anyone, I just want to see where God's people stand on this, especially how long they will support Trump's actions.
No, I would not be OK with that.
 

tourist

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Do you think the Coronavirus is more lethal than a regular flu?
Coronavirus, in the US 10,000 confirmed cases, 150+ dead (mostly elder and those in poor health), current flu strain in US, 19,000,000 confirmed cases, 10,000+ dead. To answer your question - the stats say that the flu is many times more lethal.
 

Roughsoul1991

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Trump 2020! Biden would destabilize us completely after trying to heal from this global recession. We will be over this virus soon. The market loves a capitalist.
 

Roughsoul1991

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Would you be ok with Trump setting curfews and quarantining people to their homes? Would be ok with marshal law? I'm not judging anyone, I just want to see where God's people stand on this, especially how long they will support Trump's actions.
Well when you got 1000s of people hitting the beaches and not obeying the regulations on social distances then maybe we deserve it. For goodness sake people are ignorant. That is what happens when people dont obey the government. Wouldn't be the first in US history where the government has to inforce federal laws or regulations.
 

Roughsoul1991

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I believe Trump is a savior as in small s. I believe the direction the past 3 or 4 presidents had us going was destructive. I believe now with what Trump has helped put into place especially in federal judges will give us a fighting hand for the conservatives and Constitutional followers within decades to come. The only thing now we desperately need is a national revival. Only time will tell if the patriots woke up in time to resuscitate a dying nation. In less Christ returns then we continue to fight for our freedoms and proclaim the Gospel.
 

tourist

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Well when you got 1000s of people hitting the beaches and not obeying the regulations on social distances then maybe we deserve it. For goodness sake people are ignorant. That is what happens when people dont obey the government. Wouldn't be the first in US history where the government has to inforce federal laws or regulations.
There's a big difference between a regulation and a guideline. There is no federal law pertaining to 'social distancing' . That is just some political correct term that was concocted. There is no such regulation in which to obey. This is a free country. Used to be anyway.
 

Roughsoul1991

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There's a big difference between a regulation and a guideline. There is no federal law pertaining to 'social distancing' . That is just some political correct term that was concocted. There is no such regulation in which to obey. This is a free country. Used to be anyway.
Regulations or guidelines means the same to me. We must also remember who's job it is to protect the country. Our government. That is a Biblical mandate for government. They are doing all they can to slow the virus so that our healthcare system will not be overcome like you saw in Europe and China to where they have to choose who to treat. Liberty and freedom are not the same. We actually give up freedom to live in a society that has social structures or laws. This is liberty. Liberty is part of the God given rights that must be protected by government but that doesn't give us absolute freedom to do whatever we want.
 
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Trump 2020! Biden would destabilize us completely after trying to heal from this global recession. We will be over this virus soon. The market loves a capitalist.
Wouldn’t it be safe to say that Trump is destabilizing is right now?