Not By Works

And I keep chasing the hook.🤦‍♂️

When this moves from your head to your heart, you'll be getting it.

Hey, you’re back! Had a feeling you’ve been lurking. I knew you couldn’t stay away.

Yes, baiting you with the truth.
The behavior of 'Christians' in this forum shows me the church does not know the truth.
They think excellence in osas and other sundry doctrines are what it means to know and live the truth.


I come into the forum after a two week absence and I see immature, godless, un-spiriutal back biting. But it seems that having correct osas doctrine is what really matters. Anyone who believes that is deceived and does not know God.

You're making my point exactly. And you don't even realize it.

What business is it of your's of where and when I'm on the internet?

I don't think you know what faith in God really means. You do not show that you do. You are stuck in the false security of (so-called) knowledge, not in the life of Christ. You have yet to 'see' Christ.

All those who have insulted me and falsely accused me take no thought for the feelings of the human soul at the other end of the keyboard. I believe my attackers are teaching false doctrines, but I have not spoken with such froward and contempt language shown by others.

But I guess I should have taken heed to the scripture:

He that reproves a scorner gets to himself shame: and he the rebukes a wicked man gets himself a blot. (Proverbs 9:7).

Warning! If you believe you are sealed by the Holy Spirit of God unto the day of redemption, you are not of God. 😜

The deceptive words that the people were trusting in was " This is the temple of the LORD"

"Do not trust in these deceptive words: ‘This is the temple of the LORD, the temple of the LORD, the temple of the LORD."

Jeremiah 7:4( ESV )

I believe @John146 was referring to
2 Timothy 1:12

"That is why I am suffering as I am. Yet this is no cause for shame, because I know whom I have believed, and am convinced that he is able to guard what I have entrusted to him until that day."

2 Timothy 1:12( NIV )

That condescending judgment call is well above your pay grade.

@mailmandan I do not think you have understood @John146 in this post
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What he is stating is the accusation against us as not being of God, because we believe we are sealed until the day of redemption.

Bingo! I wondered why the thumbs down.

Welcome!

I see you have met one of our local FALSE TEACHERS. He will try to twist you around until you come to his False Conclusion.

He gives real meaning to these VERSES:

Acts 20:29-30 (HCSB)
29 I know that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock.
30 And men will rise up from your own number with deviant doctrines to lure the disciples into following them.

I have already put him on my permanent IGNORE LIST.

He will never listen, and just goes on and on with his spiel.

Most of us here are OSAS evangelical type of Christians, and we almost never contradict one another.

However that one contradicts almost everything the LORD would have us to believe in.

I see you still don't get it.
If you think the correctness of your doctrine means you're at peace with God you neither see nor know God. You have yet to be mature in Christ.

Observing your behavior is all one has to do. Backbiting shows you are either not saved at all or still a baby in Christ. Which is it?

That's exactly what the osas church does.
They say, "I am safe because I'm the temple of the Lord, I'm the temple of the Lord".

Now reread that passage with that in mind. They trust in deceptive words if they think being the temple of the Lord makes them safe--safe to hate and murder in the name of correctness of doctrine.

No, it is faith in the promises of God that gives His children peace. Of course we need to know them to have faith in them, but our level of "correctness" doesn't bring assurance.... His faithfullness does...

The body of Christ is definitely safe.

By His power.


I am nothing but dirt without Christ. Worse than dirt, a failed and vile person who doesn't even deserve hope.

He however has made me new, and will not ever cast me out.

He promises this to all who believe.

We can KNOW Him, if HE ALSO abides in us.

Those He started in, He continues in until the day of Christ.



It is all about God and trusting in Him. (which is only possible by His power and His faithfulness)

Never about self, unless that is someone were to try to place part of their salvation on their own shoulders... (which those here who you seem to be indirectly pointing your finger at, would not do)

EPHESIANS 4:
[21] If so be that you have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus: [22] That you put off concerning the former lifestyle the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts...[26] Be ye angry, and sin not...[29] Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth...[5:5] For this you know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man...hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. [6] Let no man deceive you with vain words...

Christ came to take you out of the dirt and cleanse you. Not so that you could freely wallow in the dirt again and be proud of it.

What thumbs down.