I honestly don't understand what I'm being accused of lying about, and to be honest I think you're looking for any reason at all to end this conversation without ever addressing the issue concerning His word I was trying to discuss. I understand 100% these topics are very touchy and emotions can run high fast when you have no idea how our text is "being said". Everything I've written to you, if I said it face to face, you'd understand I am not being ugly or trying to condemn, and you know what? Writing this I just realized that the same could apply to me, so I apologize for reading your comments and most likely applying wrong intent and/or tone. I think we could honestly discuss this without accusing each other and "storming off".
Take a look real quick though, you are so full of accusations but all is still just skirting the main issue I brought up about the 3rd temple, you just will not acknowledge it at all so far? What is this, the Voldemort of objections? The "argument that can't be named"? It's a little frustrating in the way that you will not address an issue that would completely undermine this idea that we are still waiting for an earthly kingdom to come, seemingly from my point of view like you are now.
You accuse me of being dishonest, making excuses, and being a hypocrite. In contrast I've accused you of loving God, and understanding you are coming from a place of sincerity, yet you.......
You say nothing I'm putting for matches scripture, okay a quick run through of what Jesus says about the end of the "AGE", not world, but aion, or AGE not world. Lets see how I think what I believe lines up with His word better than a futurist view.
First off the new testament starts with Mat 3:2 with John the Baptist preaching "“Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand."
"at hand" means soon, and there's no way it means thousands of years later. that's just not what the word meant. Next is in 3:7 when he specifies specifically that he is talking about God wrath when he says
“You brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the wrath to come?
8 Bear fruit in keeping with repentance.
9 And do not presume to say to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham as our father,’ for I tell you, God is able from these stones to raise up children for Abraham.
10 Even now the axe is laid to the root of the trees. Every tree therefore that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
11 “I baptize you with water for repentance, but he who is coming after me is mightier than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.
12 His winnowing fork is in his hand, and he will clear his threshing floor and gather his wheat into the barn, but the chaff he will burn with unquenchable fire.”
He is telling the that these things are here. Moving on, Jesus in 4:17 starts His ministry, what does He say?
17 From that time Jesus began to preach, saying, “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.”
Again there is no way the word used for "at hand" means 2,000 years later. They just wouldn't have used that word that means very short time.
Then in Matt 10, I want to post the whole thing but again in 10:7
7 And proclaim as you go, saying, ‘The kingdom of heaven is at hand.’
then goes on instructing them to go proclaim this message, then says to them after telling them they'd be hated for His names sake he says
23 When they persecute you in one town, flee to the next, for truly, I say to you, you will not have gone through all the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes.
See how I could think this fits my view? You say my view doesn't fit His word at all. This all fit well to me so far. Let us move on.
Now we are at the infamous Matt 16:27-28 Rally 28, but I like more context.
27 For the Son of Man is going to come with his angels in the glory of his Father, and then he will repay each person according to what he has done.
28 Truly, I say to you, there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.”
When we take into account who is speaking & who is being spoken to, when in what time period, what is being said, where are they?
Are you really telling me that when Jesus looked these people in the eyes and said "truly I tell you that this generation will not die before they see the Son of man coming in His kingdom, that He meant us 2,000 years later, or that the people He was speaking to did either. That's illogical and not only that, everything He predicted did happen in recorded history. The end of the age came, the temple was destroyed not on brick on another, and the covenant breakers were judges while the Christians escaped because Jesus warned them. So this doesn't fit His word? It does to me so perfectly. There are SO many more verses that support this view. Please show me now how and where He says this will happen in the distant future please.
Then if you are honest at all you will quit ignoring the "3rd temple dilemma", and give something to back up your position on how a 3rd temple is even possible let alone purposeful. Stop running from this.
You are very close minded and ridged from my point of view and unwilling to engage for real.
