IT'S 1948! IT'S A MIRACLE!

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Does anyone today give much thought to the miracle that happened in 1948? Not really, because few of us remember 1948, much less what happened then. In 1948 our Heavenly Father kept His promise, given throughout the Holy Bible, and the country of Israel became a unified nation again. It was a miracle. A miracle? Why would that be considered a miracle? Well, first of all, the odds against that happening were remote, one could say almost impossible, just a few years earlier.

Before World War 11 the Jewish people were scattered around the world with small or giant populations depending upon the country you were in. The main population was in Europe however, just where our Heavenly Father had scattered them roughly 2,500 years earlier. The tribes of Judah and Benjamin (there were 12 tribes) were still in the Holy Land but the 10 northern tribes were pretty much everywhere. There was no real appetite, prior to Hitler seizing power, for them to leave the European nation they were situated in.

That all changed leading up to and during World War 11, but not many were truly aware of the plight the Jewish people were in, and those who were could do little about it. The Holocaust was in full swing, but the true cost to the Jewish people was only realized after the war ended. The late 1940's was possibly the only time in history when the Jewish people were looked upon sympathetically by the rest of the world. And was the remnant of Jews now ready to leave their European nation? Oh yeah, more than ready. All of Europe was in shreds.

Jewish people from all over the world and the European remnant that was left began migrating back to Jerusalem and Israel. Were they greeted with open arms? Of course not, but the British, who controlled Palestine, were tired of war and bankrupt. It was difficult for them to put up a convincing argument of why the Jews should not be allowed back to their ancient homeland.

The Arab nations, who had backed Hitler, were impoverished. They tried to mount a sustained war against Israel, but they fell short. The time was ripe for a miracle. On May 15, 1948 the Jewish people proclaimed, "We're back!" Throughout the late 40's and into the 50's & 60's the synagogues and churches were going crazy praising our Lord and our Father for this miracle. Today, not so much. People today look at Israel and many assume it has always been there, and that's that.

So, was it a miracle? Actually, it was Bible prophecy taking center stage, as the scattering and gathering of the Jewish children is one of the most prolific prophecies throughout the Old and New Testaments. I could give you dozens of scriptures for examples, but I dislike long posts, and this one is long enough. I do want to point out however, the scattering and gathering of the Jewish people over the millenniums completed the parable of the fig tree which our Beloved told us to learn. Matthew 24, Mark 13 and Luke 21.
 

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There's a series called 'Against All Odds' which is about the wars against Israel. In each episode, they portray the astounding miracles that God performed to help Israel win the wars since 1948. Some have the actual leaders involved in the wars talking with the host.
God is everywhere and it's certainly obvious in even the background of these stories. No nation will ever overthrow Israel, but they keep on trying.
 
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#3
Does anyone today give much thought to the miracle that happened in 1948? Not really, because few of us remember 1948, much less what happened then. In 1948 our Heavenly Father kept His promise, given throughout the Holy Bible, and the country of Israel became a unified nation again. It was a miracle. A miracle? Why would that be considered a miracle? Well, first of all, the odds against that happening were remote, one could say almost impossible, just a few years earlier.

Before World War 11 the Jewish people were scattered around the world with small or giant populations depending upon the country you were in. The main population was in Europe however, just where our Heavenly Father had scattered them roughly 2,500 years earlier. The tribes of Judah and Benjamin (there were 12 tribes) were still in the Holy Land but the 10 northern tribes were pretty much everywhere. There was no real appetite, prior to Hitler seizing power, for them to leave the European nation they were situated in.

That all changed leading up to and during World War 11, but not many were truly aware of the plight the Jewish people were in, and those who were could do little about it. The Holocaust was in full swing, but the true cost to the Jewish people was only realized after the war ended. The late 1940's was possibly the only time in history when the Jewish people were looked upon sympathetically by the rest of the world. And was the remnant of Jews now ready to leave their European nation? Oh yeah, more than ready. All of Europe was in shreds.

Jewish people from all over the world and the European remnant that was left began migrating back to Jerusalem and Israel. Were they greeted with open arms? Of course not, but the British, who controlled Palestine, were tired of war and bankrupt. It was difficult for them to put up a convincing argument of why the Jews should not be allowed back to their ancient homeland.

The Arab nations, who had backed Hitler, were impoverished. They tried to mount a sustained war against Israel, but they fell short. The time was ripe for a miracle. On May 15, 1948 the Jewish people proclaimed, "We're back!" Throughout the late 40's and into the 50's & 60's the synagogues and churches were going crazy praising our Lord and our Father for this miracle. Today, not so much. People today look at Israel and many assume it has always been there, and that's that.

So, was it a miracle? Actually, it was Bible prophecy taking center stage, as the scattering and gathering of the Jewish children is one of the most prolific prophecies throughout the Old and New Testaments. I could give you dozens of scriptures for examples, but I dislike long posts, and this one is long enough. I do want to point out however, the scattering and gathering of the Jewish people over the millenniums completed the parable of the fig tree which our Beloved told us to learn. Matthew 24, Mark 13 and Luke 21.
I don't think it has anything to do with scripture. People try to find support from scripture but only at the expense of Denying Jesus and the Church as being biblical Israel. Paul says all of the promises are yes in Jesus, not to the broken off unbelievers removed from Israel in Romans 11.

The first generation of genuine Israelites leaving Egypt forfeited all of the land promises before they ever set foot in Canaan. Only their children entered yet to lose them all over again in the different occupations and exiles.
 

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I don't think it has anything to do with scripture. People try to find support from scripture but only at the expense of Denying Jesus and the Church as being biblical Israel. Paul says all of the promises are yes in Jesus, not to the broken off unbelievers removed from Israel in Romans 11.

The first generation of genuine Israelites leaving Egypt forfeited all of the land promises before they ever set foot in Canaan. Only their children entered yet to lose them all over again in the different occupations and exiles.
All you have to do is watch the series 'Against All Odds' to see God's hand in helping the Jewish troops win each battle, 'against all odds'. They are true miracles that occurred giving victory to Israel.
 
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That was a miracle

Do a study on the temple mount, you will find even more amazing stuff
 

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There's a series called 'Against All Odds' which is about the wars against Israel. In each episode, they portray the astounding miracles that God performed to help Israel win the wars since 1948. Some have the actual leaders involved in the wars talking with the host.
God is everywhere and it's certainly obvious in even the background of these stories. No nation will ever overthrow Israel, but they keep on trying.
I just typed in YouTube Against all odds and got the Phil Collins song up and people who done a cover of his song :ROFL:...

Anyway , I typed in Against all odds about the war against the Jews and it came up , hope it is the one you are on about , I like to learn about Israel and what they have gone through...
...xox...
 

TabinRivCA

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I just typed in YouTube Against all odds and got the Phil Collins song up and people who done a cover of his song :ROFL:...

Anyway , I typed in Against all odds about the war against the Jews and it came up , hope it is the one you are on about , I like to learn about Israel and what they have gone through...
...xox...
There is a film and also a series, narrated by Michael Greenspan. Sounds like you have it.
 

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There is a film and also a series, narrated by Michael Greenspan. Sounds like you have it.
Thank you so much , I will stick with this one you have posted...
It is Friday night here in England , the rain has been falling all day...I am ready to snuggle down for the evening and was looking for something to watch , so thank you sister...
...xox...

EDIT...It is not available in my country , I just clicked the link...
 
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#9
Does anyone today give much thought to the miracle that happened in 1948? Not really, because few of us remember 1948, much less what happened then. In 1948 our Heavenly Father kept His promise, given throughout the Holy Bible, and the country of Israel became a unified nation again. It was a miracle. A miracle? Why would that be considered a miracle? Well, first of all, the odds against that happening were remote, one could say almost impossible, just a few years earlier.

Before World War 11 the Jewish people were scattered around the world with small or giant populations depending upon the country you were in. The main population was in Europe however, just where our Heavenly Father had scattered them roughly 2,500 years earlier. The tribes of Judah and Benjamin (there were 12 tribes) were still in the Holy Land but the 10 northern tribes were pretty much everywhere. There was no real appetite, prior to Hitler seizing power, for them to leave the European nation they were situated in.

That all changed leading up to and during World War 11, but not many were truly aware of the plight the Jewish people were in, and those who were could do little about it. The Holocaust was in full swing, but the true cost to the Jewish people was only realized after the war ended. The late 1940's was possibly the only time in history when the Jewish people were looked upon sympathetically by the rest of the world. And was the remnant of Jews now ready to leave their European nation? Oh yeah, more than ready. All of Europe was in shreds.

Jewish people from all over the world and the European remnant that was left began migrating back to Jerusalem and Israel. Were they greeted with open arms? Of course not, but the British, who controlled Palestine, were tired of war and bankrupt. It was difficult for them to put up a convincing argument of why the Jews should not be allowed back to their ancient homeland.

The Arab nations, who had backed Hitler, were impoverished. They tried to mount a sustained war against Israel, but they fell short. The time was ripe for a miracle. On May 15, 1948 the Jewish people proclaimed, "We're back!" Throughout the late 40's and into the 50's & 60's the synagogues and churches were going crazy praising our Lord and our Father for this miracle. Today, not so much. People today look at Israel and many assume it has always been there, and that's that.

So, was it a miracle? Actually, it was Bible prophecy taking center stage, as the scattering and gathering of the Jewish children is one of the most prolific prophecies throughout the Old and New Testaments. I could give you dozens of scriptures for examples, but I dislike long posts, and this one is long enough. I do want to point out however, the scattering and gathering of the Jewish people over the millenniums completed the parable of the fig tree which our Beloved told us to learn. Matthew 24, Mark 13 and Luke 21.
Eze 39:21 And I will set my glory among the heathen, and all the heathen shall see my judgment that I have executed, and my hand that I have laid upon them.
Eze 39:22 So the house of Israel shall know that I am the LORD their God from that day and forward.
Eze 39:23 And the heathen shall know that the house of Israel went into captivity for their iniquity: because they trespassed against me, therefore hid I my face from them, and gave them into the hand of their enemies: so fell they all by the sword.
Eze 39:24 According to their uncleanness and according to their transgressions have I done unto them, and hid my face from them.
Eze 39:25 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Now will I bring again the captivity of Jacob, and have mercy upon the whole house of Israel, and will be jealous for my holy name;
Eze 39:26 After that they have borne their shame, and all their trespasses whereby they have trespassed against me, when they dwelt safely in their land, and none made them afraid.
Eze 39:27 When I have brought them again from the people, and gathered them out of their enemies' lands, and am sanctified in them in the sight of many nations;
Eze 39:28 Then shall they know that I am the LORD their God, which caused them to be led into captivity among the heathen: but I have gathered them unto their own land, and have left none of them any more there.
Eze 39:29 Neither will I hide my face any more from them: for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel, saith the Lord GOD.

God will gather all the Jews from all nations and bring them back to Israel and leave none of them in the nations anymore, and turn them to the truth that Jesus is their Lord and Savior, and they shall know the LORD their God from that day and forward, and He will never hide His face from them again.

Which the man of sin, New Age Christ, will establish peace in the Middle East and it will pave the way for all Jews to go back to Israel for the Gentile nations will see to it and cause it to happen, and the New Age Christ wants them all back on their land which the devil wants to deceive them to follow the occult, and an evolution interpretation in which people are still evolving to be greater and spiritual and there is no personal Good, but God means it for good towards the Jews.
 

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#10
Does anyone today give much thought to the miracle that happened in 1948? Not really, because few of us remember 1948, much less what happened then. In 1948 our Heavenly Father kept His promise, given throughout the Holy Bible, and the country of Israel became a unified nation again. It was a miracle. A miracle? Why would that be considered a miracle? Well, first of all, the odds against that happening were remote, one could say almost impossible, just a few years earlier.

Before World War 11 the Jewish people were scattered around the world with small or giant populations depending upon the country you were in. The main population was in Europe however, just where our Heavenly Father had scattered them roughly 2,500 years earlier. The tribes of Judah and Benjamin (there were 12 tribes) were still in the Holy Land but the 10 northern tribes were pretty much everywhere. There was no real appetite, prior to Hitler seizing power, for them to leave the European nation they were situated in.

That all changed leading up to and during World War 11, but not many were truly aware of the plight the Jewish people were in, and those who were could do little about it. The Holocaust was in full swing, but the true cost to the Jewish people was only realized after the war ended. The late 1940's was possibly the only time in history when the Jewish people were looked upon sympathetically by the rest of the world. And was the remnant of Jews now ready to leave their European nation? Oh yeah, more than ready. All of Europe was in shreds.

Jewish people from all over the world and the European remnant that was left began migrating back to Jerusalem and Israel. Were they greeted with open arms? Of course not, but the British, who controlled Palestine, were tired of war and bankrupt. It was difficult for them to put up a convincing argument of why the Jews should not be allowed back to their ancient homeland.

The Arab nations, who had backed Hitler, were impoverished. They tried to mount a sustained war against Israel, but they fell short. The time was ripe for a miracle. On May 15, 1948 the Jewish people proclaimed, "We're back!" Throughout the late 40's and into the 50's & 60's the synagogues and churches were going crazy praising our Lord and our Father for this miracle. Today, not so much. People today look at Israel and many assume it has always been there, and that's that.

So, was it a miracle? Actually, it was Bible prophecy taking center stage, as the scattering and gathering of the Jewish children is one of the most prolific prophecies throughout the Old and New Testaments. I could give you dozens of scriptures for examples, but I dislike long posts, and this one is long enough. I do want to point out however, the scattering and gathering of the Jewish people over the millenniums completed the parable of the fig tree which our Beloved told us to learn. Matthew 24, Mark 13 and Luke 21.
The Israel of God, Yah, has the New Jerusalem as its capitol. It has our King as ruler, and it has no Judaism nor any other denomination under that title. It is peopled by believers only. It will be the perfect rendition of the first Israel with the true King this time.
1948 is a hallmark year in the setting up of the staging grounds for the last moments of what is called time.

When I spent six months in the Israel of this age, I saw many wonderful people, however the faith was not there. There were many groups of belief even agnostic and atheism, however the King is not there neither the unity nor faith of all who love God, simply a country totally schizophrenic in the auspices of religion.

Let us kekep our heads when pasing on the understanding of real and&or imagined miracles.
 

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I dont know I wasnt born then so obviously I dont remember.

But I think it was significant...definitely something is going to happen in Jerusalem at some stage. God doesnt forget His people so easily even when they seem to have no faith in Him.
 
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All you have to do is watch the series 'Against All Odds' to see God's hand in helping the Jewish troops win each battle, 'against all odds'. They are true miracles that occurred giving victory to Israel.
But, he does this with all armies who he determined to win. Jesus and the Church are biblical Israel. Pagan Israel can become part of us if any accept Christ. Paul was a broken off Jew who used himself as an example of being re-attached to Israel.
 
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The Church is Israel in scripture. The promises are yes in Jesus. So secular Israel as no claim to Palestine. People who walk by faith will go by what Scripture says in Romans 11. That only through Christ will any be attached to biblical Israel = Christ and the Church.
 
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But, he does this with all armies who he determined to win. Jesus and the Church are biblical Israel. Pagan Israel can become part of us if any accept Christ. Paul was a broken off Jew who used himself as an example of being re-attached to Israel.
Paul was never broken off

where do you come up with this stuff. Do you mind telling us what church you belong to?
 
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The Church is Israel in scripture. The promises are yes in Jesus. So secular Israel as no claim to Palestine. People who walk by faith will go by what Scripture says in Romans 11. That only through Christ will any be attached to biblical Israel = Christ and the Church.
The church was never promised palestine

do some study of scripture
 
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Thank you so much , I will stick with this one you have posted...
It is Friday night here in England , the rain has been falling all day...I am ready to snuggle down for the evening and was looking for something to watch , so thank you sister...
...xox...

EDIT...It is not available in my country , I just clicked the link...
Hey sister was you ever able to listen to the videos on the Temple Mount?
 
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Hi eg...
No , the loss of hearing him put me off...

I did get my hearing aids but his presentation distracted me...

My bad...xox...
It’s ok, it’s dry, but the info was amazing.
 

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[re: the OP] Here's a post on that Subject, that I made back in December...

Post #891 (page 45 of the "What is your best proof..." thread):

https://christianchat.com/threads/what-is-your-best-proof-for-a-pre-trib-rapture.188798/post-4115936


[quoting that post, or a portion of it]

I do believe there are "time-related-prophecies" concerning Israel (coming into play in our era).

Here's how I'm seeing that:

--FROM 537bc [the "Return to Israel" from captivity]
TO 1948ad [Nation of Israel]
= 2520y (factored in 360 day years, as "time-prophecies" relating to Israel are often factored); and

--FROM 518bc [the "Temple Rebuilding"]
TO 1967ad [Jerusalem Regained (apart from which, there can be no temple)]
= 2520y (ditto the above)

--[I believe there are two other connections, but can't quote them off the top of my head...]


...the equation (in the above) being, "Ezekiel 4 minus 2 Chronicles 36:21 times Leviticus 26 equals 2520 years" (2520 years of 360-day years, in the above-mentioned ones):

--Ezekiel 4 is 430 yrs, 360 yrs of which were "remaining"; and

--[minus] 2Chronicles 36:21, "until the land had enjoyed her sabbaths: for as long as she lay desolate she kept sabbath, to fulfil threescore and ten years [70 yrs]"; and

--[times] Leviticus 26 4x says (basically) [re: Israel],
"[but if not, then]... I will punish you seven times more for your sins."


So (when examined), we see [360y (remained) x 7 = 2520y]

I think this has to be more than "coincidence" (and acknowledging the stages shown to be expected in the Ezekiel 37 chpt ["dry bones prophecy" regarding Israel])


[caveat: I've posted before that I see Scripture referring to "the fig tree" as something DISTINCT from "Israel" (which according to Isa5:7 "the VINEYARD of the Lord of hosts is the house OF ISRAEL"... and according to the parable in Lk13:6 "[a certain man] had A FIG TREE planted IN his VINEYARD"--showing there to be two DISTINCT items, though somewhat in relation to each other, that are NOT IDENTICAL... so I'm not really convinced that "the fig tree parable" in Matt24:32-34/Mk13:28-30/Lk21:29-32 speaks specifically of "Israel," but more like something associated with Israel (which is identified itself as the "vineyard")]

[…]

I think that is why Ezekiel 37 (the "dry bones prophecy" concerning Israel) is SHOWN as taking place IN STAGES... it's not really till the Ezekiel 38-39 "war" takes place (which I've stated I believe takes place as a PART of the "2nd SEAL WARS" in the early part of the future trib years [FOLLOWING our Rapture]) that the 39:7 thing takes place (reflective of the Genesis 45:1[6] thing), which says, "SO [/in this way] will *I MAKE* MY HOLY NAME KNOWN in the midst of MY PEOPLE ISRAEL" [whereas presently they are still in the state of "Lo Ammi"--"NOT MY PEOPLE"])


[end quoting that portion of the post]