Saw this and wanted to share on how we got where we are

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shittim

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Saw this from a friend and wanted to share, hope you enjoy and are edified, we each have a part in prayer and in Holy Spirit led action, He works through people.


Ok, in 1913 our government sold out we the people on several fronts. First was the federal reserve act, contrary to popular belief the federal reserve is neither federal nor a reserve. It is a private bank that loans the federal government money at interest. The second thing that happened was the income tax, this is the instrument through which the federal reserve collects the funds to pay down the interest on the national debt. Third, previous to 1913 our US senators were appointed by the governors of the states not elected by the people. The founders set it up this way because the senate was supposed to ensure that any Bill's the house passed did not infringe on states rights in addition to confirming presidential appointments and treaties, and so forth. In essence since 1913 every citizen of these United states has been a debt slave to the government. Slowly we went from a gold backed money system to a total fiat debt based system. It started with fractional banking, instead of printing one dollar in money for every dollar in gold we had in reserve they started printing ten dollars for every dollar in gold we had. This is why in 1929 when the stock market crashed people went to their banks to close out their accounts and asked for their money in gold the banks could not pay it. The final step was in 1970 when Nixon took us off the gold standard entirely and we went on the Petro dollar. Deals were made with the big oil producing countries that the United states would protect these countries militarily in return they would only sell oil in US dollars. Now, world wide, nearly every country has a central bank controlled economy, total fiat currency, and globalists throughout their governments. This is what President Trump is fighting, on multiple fronts, to bring down. Its vast, its complicated and it will take time to unravel but it is getting done. The people who are opposing trump are all traitors, and are fighting to the end for their very lives. President Trump was asked to run for president by Patriots in our military, they had come to the conclusion that it was the only relatively peaceful way to restore the country, if clinton had gotten elected the only recourse would have been a military takeover. Buckle up, things are going to start moving fast from here on out. You remember when Obama told the Russian prime minister he would have more leeway after the election? Well so will trump, his second term he can really take the gloves off. I encourage folks here to go to Qanon.pub, read drops. This is a back channel info guide, it is purposefully cryptic, and mostly the drops are in the form of questions and readers are supposed to do their own research. This is in order not to violate national security. But if you go through enough drops, and connect dots there is no way that this is not legit. Q often asks, how many coincidences do you need before you realize it is mathematically impossible to be a coincidence.
 

Nehemiah6

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It started with fractional banking, instead of printing one dollar in money for every dollar in gold we had in reserve they started printing ten dollars for every dollar in gold we had.
Abandoning the Gold Standard was a deliberate act of sabotage to destroy America and the West. And the Federal Reserve is neither "federal" nor a "reserve" of gold sufficient to cover every printed dollar. These policies made all the citizens of the Western world beholden to a handful of very wealthy bankers (mostly Jewish).
 

shittim

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So we have our work cut out for us. Nothing happens in the past, I see a great future for America as Evangelicals rise to the calling.
 
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Hypothetically what would happen to America if every person stop paying taxes
 

shittim

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not sure we aren't seeing it now what with the massive debt it is as though we haven't been solvent for decades, Eisenhower was the last President with a truly balanced budget.
 
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not sure we aren't seeing it now what with the massive debt it is as though we haven't been solvent for decades, Eisenhower was the last President with a truly balanced budget.
Might have but the last time our national debt was at zero was 1835 to 1836 one year it was the only time in U.S. history
 
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This was interesting I didn’t know.

If the U.S. paid off its debt there would be no more U.S. Treasury bonds in the world. ... The U.S. borrows money by selling bonds. So the end of debt would mean the end of Treasury bonds. But the U.S. has been issuing bonds for so long, and the bonds are seen as so safe, that much of the world has come to depend on them.
 

Nehemiah6

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If the U.S. paid off its debt there would be no more U.S. Treasury bonds in the world. ... The U.S. borrows money by selling bonds. So the end of debt would mean the end of Treasury bonds. But the U.S. has been issuing bonds for so long, and the bonds are seen as so safe, that much of the world has come to depend on them.
Once we understand that the business of government is (1) NOT to offer investment instruments such as bonds, (2) NOT to incur public debt, (3) NOT to issue worthless paper currency, and (4) not to tax people to death, we would see that there are many other investment options available to investors (besides bonds).

The role of governments has been seriously distorted ever since governments came into existence. Had the Gold Standard been scrupulously maintained, inflation would never have reared its ugly head. Which means that prices and interest rates would have remained stable. Had the government scrupulously avoided public debt, the level of taxation would have been very low. As it is the national debt in almost every country is astronomical. And if China would sell off all the Treasury bonds which it holds, the USA would be in serious trouble.

Something else to note is that because of hostilities between different ideologies, there is a huge amount of military spending, which eats into government revenues. And North Korea is a extreme example of crazy men devoting almost all their countries resources to warfare. The same applies to Russia and to some degree to China.

Then there is the issue of foreign aid. All those billions of dollars could have been put into a huge bonfire and the result would have been the same. But no one cares to learn any lessons, since the tax payer is presumably footing the bill.
 
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Once we understand that the business of government is (1) NOT to offer investment instruments such as bonds, (2) NOT to incur public debt, (3) NOT to issue worthless paper currency, and (4) not to tax people to death, we would see that there are many other investment options available to investors (besides bonds).

The role of governments has been seriously distorted ever since governments came into existence. Had the Gold Standard been scrupulously maintained, inflation would never have reared its ugly head. Which means that prices and interest rates would have remained stable. Had the government scrupulously avoided public debt, the level of taxation would have been very low. As it is the national debt in almost every country is astronomical. And if China would sell off all the Treasury bonds which it holds, the USA would be in serious trouble.

Something else to note is that because of hostilities between different ideologies, there is a huge amount of military spending, which eats into government revenues. And North Korea is a extreme example of crazy men devoting almost all their countries resources to warfare. The same applies to Russia and to some degree to China.

Then there is the issue of foreign aid. All those billions of dollars could have been put into a huge bonfire and the result would have been the same. But no one cares to learn any lessons, since the tax payer is presumably footing the bill.
Interesting read thanks for posting, yea I never did get the bond the whole thing started to raise money for war against another country I’ve read England started the war bonds in 1694 American revolution started the U.S. government bonds called loan certificates.

I think ww1 and specially WW2 nations freaked out after that I can kind of see why but I don’t know if it’s paranoia today or are the threats out there that require huge amounts money some say it does. I know nukes can destroy vast areas of life on earth there’s that but i don’t know how to feel about it I don’t want to live somewhere that controls my whole life.
 
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Speaking on military I think the huge carrier fleets might be getting obsolete. there is a huge amount money that goes into that alone. the way technology is moving is 11 carrier strike forces needed. Russia and China don’t have these large strike groups they seem to not have been invaded or attacked not the rouge type but of a country.
 

shittim

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Here I am looking at the world through the lens of G-d, He is still advancing His plan to redeem mankind and his world back to him, we seem to be in the last of the last days now.
 

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to parallel what is being discussed here, keep in mind that the proper name for the u.s dollar is the petrodollar. the u.s. dollar is backed ( propped up) by Saudi Arabia oil. most of the world's nations purchase their oil in u.s. dollars.

the nations that do not or have not used the petrodollar- Iraq , Syria , Libya , Venezuela and most importantly, iran.

now, help me out here, who do we hear our enemy's are?????
 

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Abandoning the Gold Standard was a deliberate act of sabotage to destroy America and the West. And the Federal Reserve is neither "federal" nor a "reserve" of gold sufficient to cover every printed dollar. These policies made all the citizens of the Western world beholden to a handful of very wealthy bankers (mostly Jewish).
Not only was it a deliberate act of sabotage it was also the biggest thief in world history..

When Gold was placed in those banks they where placed their by private depositors who where given Bills that confirmed ownership of that amount of Gold.. People started to use these paper bills as payment for services and products.. the seller knowing if they had the bill they now owned the gold that was in the banks.. And so it went on.. The Gold standard was simply dollar bills that had a set value in gold that was deposited in banks.. This was a world wide system..

But what happened.. They decided to end the gold standard,, But wait. Where the owners of the dollar bills.. pound notes and other paper bills allowed to go to the banks and hand in their bills for the amount of Gold that each bill represented ownership of??? Nooooo,,, The banks kept all the Gold that had been deposited in them by the private depositors.. These banks carried out the biggest Gold thief in world history.. At a stroke of a corrupt government pen billions, (probably in today's value trillions of dollars) of Gold was stolen from the bank bill owners and taken by the banksters..

And they got away with it.. :mad:
 
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Saw this from a friend and wanted to share, hope you enjoy and are edified, we each have a part in prayer and in Holy Spirit led action, He works through people.
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Wiki: 'To be a member of the Federal Reserve system, commercial banks must own shares of stock in the 12 regional Federal Reserve banks by law. But owning Reserve bank stock is nothing like owning stock in a private company. These stocks can't be traded. These don't give the member banks voting rights. These pay out dividends mandated by law to be 6 percent. But the banks must return all profits, after paying expenses, to the U.S. Treasury.'
This sounds like commercial banks don't make any profit from The Fed unless they can fiddle expenses or taxes?
 
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man chose a carnal god -
a true Christian doesn't have a paranoid bone in their body -
bring it on satan, we're ready!!!