Why do people say that the soul don't die .When the BIBLE says, GOD says ALL souls are mine, the soul that sineth it shall die,
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There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day. At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with sores and longing to eat what fell from the rich man’s table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores.
The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried. In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’
But Abraham replied, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been set in place, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.’
He answered, ‘Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my family, for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’
Abraham replied, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.’
‘No, father Abraham,’ he said, ‘but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.’
He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’
(Luke 16:19-31)
both this rich man and Lazarus continue to exist after their bodies return to dust. they both have eternal existence.
this beggar has life. this rich man has death.
you will say, you believe God.
but you will say, Jesus is speaking pure impossible fantasy here with no relationship to reality at all.
i want you to think hard about what you are accusing Christ of here. see if you can find somewhere else that Christ teaches us by speaking of completely imaginary things that are -- as you call them -- unreal, unbelievable, foolish, impossible fairy tales. you're calling Him a liar with His head in the clouds.
i believe God. He's talking about very real things & His word is truth. it ain't always easy to understand - is it ever? - but it's always true.
clinging to the non-existence doctrine you've been taught is leading you into a lot of error.
o that's too bad 
i really thought Christ had promised us eternal life, to live forever
i guess you are telling me God, who lives forever, really doesn't - just 'for a lot of time'
and when He says we will have eternal life He just means we'll reach a ripe old age before we don't exist anymore?
oh -- or are you using a double standard to support your unscriptural position of cessation of existence?
making God speak out of both sides of His mouth?
i really thought Christ had promised us eternal life, to live forever
i guess you are telling me God, who lives forever, really doesn't - just 'for a lot of time'
and when He says we will have eternal life He just means we'll reach a ripe old age before we don't exist anymore?
oh -- or are you using a double standard to support your unscriptural position of cessation of existence?
making God speak out of both sides of His mouth?
Paul talks here about the death that every sinner experiences:
"9 Once I was alive apart from the law; but when the commandment came, sin sprang to life and I died. 10 I found that the very commandment that was intended to bring life actually brought death. 11 For sin, seizing the opportunity afforded by the commandment, deceived me, and through the commandment put me to death." - Romans 7:9-11
The devil told Adam and Eve this would not happen if they disobeyed the commandment.
He lied.
"9 Once I was alive apart from the law; but when the commandment came, sin sprang to life and I died. 10 I found that the very commandment that was intended to bring life actually brought death. 11 For sin, seizing the opportunity afforded by the commandment, deceived me, and through the commandment put me to death." - Romans 7:9-11
The devil told Adam and Eve this would not happen if they disobeyed the commandment.
He lied.
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Death is separation from God, and eternal life is knowing God.
John 17:3
And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
The death of the soul is the opposite of knowing God:
2 Thessalonians 1:9
Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;
Now whether this means conscious torment or ceasing to exist after a period of time, that is up for everyone to decide and be convinced in their own minds.
John 17:3
And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
The death of the soul is the opposite of knowing God:
2 Thessalonians 1:9
Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;
Now whether this means conscious torment or ceasing to exist after a period of time, that is up for everyone to decide and be convinced in their own minds.
Adam began in spiritual fellowship with the Lord. When Adam sinned he lost this spiritual connection, I.E. died spiritually. He didn't die physically until many years later.
We're Adams offspring born with his sinful nature. Therefore when we are born physically our sin nature separates us from spiritual fellowship with the Father.
When we accept Christ placing our faith in His sin atoning sacrifice. Christ places His Holy Spirit in us (QUICKENS) & we can now fellowship with the Father thru our High Priest that intercedes on our behalf.
Vine's Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words: Quicken = [ strongs -,G2227, Greek word zoopoieo ] to make alive:" See LIFE, C.
2) [Strongs G2225, Greek word zoogoneo ] "to endue with life, produce alive, preserve alive:" See LIVE
3) Strongs G4806, Greek word suzoopoieo / sunzoopoieo ] "to quicken together with, make alive with" is used in Ephesians 2:5; Colossians 2:13, of the spiritual life with Christ, imparted to believers at their conversion.
QUICKEN
KJV Dictionary Definition: quicken = Primarily, to make alive; to vivify; to revive or resuscitate, as from death or an inanimate state. Rom. 4.
To make alive in a spiritual sense; to communicate a principle of grace to. You hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins. Eph. 2.
Using Vine's dictionary referenced verses above:
Eph 2:5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved
Col 2:13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
(NOTE: Dead because of sin, made spiritually alive/quickened < Past tense, & forgiven all you're trespasses)
Additional references:
Eph 2:1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
(NOTE: Thru faith in Christ's sin atoning sacrifice. We "HATH" = already done, been Quickened < Past tense. An we're made SPIRITUALLY alive.)
Rom 6:9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.
(NOTE: Once spiritually quickened, neither sin or death have dominion over or any believer.)
Rom 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
We're Adams offspring born with his sinful nature. Therefore when we are born physically our sin nature separates us from spiritual fellowship with the Father.
When we accept Christ placing our faith in His sin atoning sacrifice. Christ places His Holy Spirit in us (QUICKENS) & we can now fellowship with the Father thru our High Priest that intercedes on our behalf.
Vine's Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words: Quicken = [ strongs -,G2227, Greek word zoopoieo ] to make alive:" See LIFE, C.
2) [Strongs G2225, Greek word zoogoneo ] "to endue with life, produce alive, preserve alive:" See LIVE
3) Strongs G4806, Greek word suzoopoieo / sunzoopoieo ] "to quicken together with, make alive with" is used in Ephesians 2:5; Colossians 2:13, of the spiritual life with Christ, imparted to believers at their conversion.
QUICKEN
KJV Dictionary Definition: quicken = Primarily, to make alive; to vivify; to revive or resuscitate, as from death or an inanimate state. Rom. 4.
To make alive in a spiritual sense; to communicate a principle of grace to. You hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins. Eph. 2.
Using Vine's dictionary referenced verses above:
Eph 2:5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved
Col 2:13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
(NOTE: Dead because of sin, made spiritually alive/quickened < Past tense, & forgiven all you're trespasses)
Additional references:
Eph 2:1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
(NOTE: Thru faith in Christ's sin atoning sacrifice. We "HATH" = already done, been Quickened < Past tense. An we're made SPIRITUALLY alive.)
Rom 6:9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.
(NOTE: Once spiritually quickened, neither sin or death have dominion over or any believer.)
Rom 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
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Our spirits are immortal, i.e. they will exist eternally. These current bodies do not have immortality, which is why God is going to resurrect believers with immortal and glorified bodies so the scripture says that we cannot inherit the kingdom of God in these current bodies.
According to scripture, Life and death are states of existence in relation to ones state of being with God. Those who have been reconciled to God through faith in His Son, will have eternal life in those immortal and glorified bodies. Likewise, those who have not been reconciled to God through faith in His Son, will be in a state of death, which is eternal separation from God in the lake of fire.
The problem then, is your erroneous interpretation of the state of death as meaning nonexistence.
At the great white throne judgment, all of the unrighteous dead throughout all of history will be resurrected, their spirits released from Hades and united with their resurrected bodies. The fact that they will stand before God shows that they have still been existing, their spirits in Hades for all of that time. The event of Lazarus and the rich man also demonstrates the on-going existence of the spirit after the death of the body. We also have Samuel whom Saul called up from Sheol/Hades through the witch of Endor. We have all of the souls who will have been killed under the altar in heaven at the opening of the fifth seal. We Jesus telling the man crucified next to Him saying, "today you will be with me in paradise." How could Jesus make that promise when He himself died that same day? He was speaking about their spirits. Then there is Moses and Elijah appearing to Jesus on the mount when He was transfigured. I could go on an on.
Let go of your adopted teachings and believe the truth.
According to scripture, Life and death are states of existence in relation to ones state of being with God. Those who have been reconciled to God through faith in His Son, will have eternal life in those immortal and glorified bodies. Likewise, those who have not been reconciled to God through faith in His Son, will be in a state of death, which is eternal separation from God in the lake of fire.
The problem then, is your erroneous interpretation of the state of death as meaning nonexistence.
At the great white throne judgment, all of the unrighteous dead throughout all of history will be resurrected, their spirits released from Hades and united with their resurrected bodies. The fact that they will stand before God shows that they have still been existing, their spirits in Hades for all of that time. The event of Lazarus and the rich man also demonstrates the on-going existence of the spirit after the death of the body. We also have Samuel whom Saul called up from Sheol/Hades through the witch of Endor. We have all of the souls who will have been killed under the altar in heaven at the opening of the fifth seal. We Jesus telling the man crucified next to Him saying, "today you will be with me in paradise." How could Jesus make that promise when He himself died that same day? He was speaking about their spirits. Then there is Moses and Elijah appearing to Jesus on the mount when He was transfigured. I could go on an on.
Let go of your adopted teachings and believe the truth.
Once again, the immortality that Paul is speaking about, is referring to these current bodies which die. We cannot inherit the kingdom of God in them, which is why at the resurrection, we will receive immortal and glorified bodies mete for the kingdom of God. This is what prompted him to say: "where O death is your is your victory? Where O death is your sting." This is because though believers in Christ die, yet shall they live, because death has no power over them, anymore than death had power over Jesus.
According to scripture (2 Cor.5:6, Phil.1:23), for those in Christ once the body dies, the spirit departs and goes to be in the presence of Christ. When the wicked die, their spirit departs and goes down into Hades to begin their punishment.
Life and death are both states of eternal conscious existence.
According to scripture (2 Cor.5:6, Phil.1:23), for those in Christ once the body dies, the spirit departs and goes to be in the presence of Christ. When the wicked die, their spirit departs and goes down into Hades to begin their punishment.
Life and death are both states of eternal conscious existence.
This does not make God a liar, it makes you ignorant of His word in regards to the meaning of death as being a state of existence and not cessation of existence. When Satan said, "you will not die" the rest of that verse is "God knows that in the day that you eat of it you will become like God."
Why do you camp out on certain scriptures and ignore the rest? Bring in all of the scripture on this subject and not just the ones you want to use to support this false teaching.
You will not surely die = Adam your body is not going to grow old and die and your spirit is not going to be separated from God, instead you will become like God knowing good from evil.
All we have to do is look at all of the graveyards to see who was lying. So, mankind is dying just as God said that we would. This does not mean that the spirit is unconscious, since we have plenty of scripture showing that the spirit is conscious and aware after the death of the body. When the unfaithful die, their bodies will decay in the ground and their spirits will be in a state of conscious separation from God in sheol/Hades which is the state of death.
Death is a state of existence based on ones relationship to God.
"And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne."
How can the dead stand before God?
The answer is that, these will be those who will have died in their sins and remained in a state of death (complete ruin, body soul and spirt), which is eternal conscious separation from God. These will be cast into the lake of fire conscious and aware in a state of death in relation to God.
Why do you camp out on certain scriptures and ignore the rest? Bring in all of the scripture on this subject and not just the ones you want to use to support this false teaching.
You will not surely die = Adam your body is not going to grow old and die and your spirit is not going to be separated from God, instead you will become like God knowing good from evil.
All we have to do is look at all of the graveyards to see who was lying. So, mankind is dying just as God said that we would. This does not mean that the spirit is unconscious, since we have plenty of scripture showing that the spirit is conscious and aware after the death of the body. When the unfaithful die, their bodies will decay in the ground and their spirits will be in a state of conscious separation from God in sheol/Hades which is the state of death.
Death is a state of existence based on ones relationship to God.
"And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne."
How can the dead stand before God?
The answer is that, these will be those who will have died in their sins and remained in a state of death (complete ruin, body soul and spirt), which is eternal conscious separation from God. These will be cast into the lake of fire conscious and aware in a state of death in relation to God.
Really? Everlasting fire means exactly that, never ending, with the focus being on those being punished within the fire, i.e. their torment in flame will be never-ending.
You're just using existing apologetics above! The destruction by fire of Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities was the death of the physical body. Jude uses this as an example of those who will suffer the punishment of eternal fire, which as the word eternal infers, will be never ending.
To be clear, the lake of fire, which was prepared for Satan and his angels, will never go out. Those who end up in there will experience eternal punishment in torment in flame, because of their sins against a Holy and righteous eternal God. They will have rejected His provision of salvation through His Son and those who do will suffer the penalty of eternal conscious punishment in the lake of fire, which is the state of death.
And that is the truth of God's word.
You're just using existing apologetics above! The destruction by fire of Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities was the death of the physical body. Jude uses this as an example of those who will suffer the punishment of eternal fire, which as the word eternal infers, will be never ending.
To be clear, the lake of fire, which was prepared for Satan and his angels, will never go out. Those who end up in there will experience eternal punishment in torment in flame, because of their sins against a Holy and righteous eternal God. They will have rejected His provision of salvation through His Son and those who do will suffer the penalty of eternal conscious punishment in the lake of fire, which is the state of death.
And that is the truth of God's word.
This current body doesn't have immortality. But it will become immortal and glorified at the resurrection. The spirit however, is conscious and aware after death, which is supported by other scriptures.
"The body that is sown is perishable, it is raised imperishable; it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power; it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body."
This current body decays, has a sinful nature and is weak. When the resurrection takes place, this body will be transformed immortal (never to decay or die), will be a glorified body and will be raised, not only by the power of God, but will be raise in power, i.e. those new bodies will have heavenly abilities.
"The body that is sown is perishable, it is raised imperishable; it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power; it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body."
This current body decays, has a sinful nature and is weak. When the resurrection takes place, this body will be transformed immortal (never to decay or die), will be a glorified body and will be raised, not only by the power of God, but will be raise in power, i.e. those new bodies will have heavenly abilities.