Who is the ones that is taken ? And who is the ones that are left ?

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Dave-L

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"The righteous man Judges all things,but he himself is judged of no one"
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“But the spiritual man tries all things [he examines, investigates, inquires into, questions, and discerns all things], yet is himself to be put on trial and judged by no one [he can read the meaning of everything, but no one can properly discern or appraise or get an insight into him].” 1 Corinthians 2:15 (AMP)
 
GandalfTheWhite

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Dave-L said:
He was educated in the OT replaced by the NT. = it does not apply to those educated in the NT.
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The NT did not exist so he could not study it. He was one of the authors :) Those educated in the NT can also be wrong. We need the whole Bible
 
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GandalfTheWhite said:
The NT did not exist so he could not study it. He was one of the authors :) Those educated in the NT can also be wrong. We need the whole Bible
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But we have it now and need to learn it in line with the early church creeds.
 
Dave-L

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Kolistus said:
Yes exactly, as I said. It doesnt matter if you are or are not highly educated. Those who are of the Lord are of the Lord and will be right.
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And how do you know if you are right without a thorough knowledge of scripture? = lots of study.
 
Kolistus

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...and had to unlearn it all after the baptism in the Holy Spirit
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Didnt you see Dave's other thread? Thats not for today. Salvation cancelled! That was only before the bible canon was complete. Now we dont need salvation anymore.
 
Absolutely

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Kolistus said:
Didnt you see Dave's other thread? Thats not for today. Salvation cancelled! That was only before the bible canon was complete. Now we dont need salvation anymore.
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Truth can be multifaceted.

Many debates are 2 sides not realizing the mountain has more than one side
 
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Not all of it. He preached Christ from the OT. He had to drop Judaism though.
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By the time the Holy Spirit got done with him he had a boneyard of discarded " 'truths' of education"
 
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Dave-L said:
His use of the OT disproves this.
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Every sentence of the ot paul saw through the prism of the law and priesthood. He saw nothing in the ot through the correct prism.

That is why I put "truths" in quotation marks.

His truth was perverted.

His entire revelation was downloaded by the Holy Spirit.
The ot was relearned as well
 
Dave-L

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Every sentence of the ot paul saw through the prism of the law and priesthood. He saw nothing in the ot through the correct prism.

That is why I put "truths" in quotation marks.

His truth was perverted.

His entire revelation was downloaded by the Holy Spirit.
The ot was relearned as well
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So OT scripture is perverted? When he quotes it?
 
GandalfTheWhite

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Dave-L said:
Not all of it. He preached Christ from the OT. He had to drop Judaism though.
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This seems pretty selective to me. What parts of the Bible can we then leave out? Who determined it?

Doesn’t make sense. We need to read the whole Bible and apply it to our lives.

You are right that Paul taught Yeshua from the OT and all he left behind was the manmade doctrine in the Talmud.
 
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Kolistus said:
Flood came and swept them all away. The wicked were taken, not Noah?

I take it that Jesus is talking about the second coming not the rapture for all of Matthew 24, because the disciples ask about two things, not about a rapture nor resurrection.
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I can see it either way. Works for either camp.

In the tsunami in Japan, the boats were taken away first.

Nobody would rationally think people are taken away before a boat.
Makes no sense
 
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