Elijah to come vs Antichrist

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and the Whole Bible says the same thing to everyone for its of no private interpretation....if you master all 66 books and 31,102 verses over lots and lots of hours reading and studying and implementing the whole thing in context you can hold all truth that is promised in the Bible
Everything has a beginning. Even the Hebrew letters that make up the first word in the Bible: "Beginning" tells the whole story of Jesus. (Jesus the Son (Ben) of God was given as a grain offering so that Heaven & Earth could be reconciled - united - no longer divided) All 66 books & 31,102 verses has a beginning that is so easy and so simple a child can understand. We start with the children when they are old enough to march and we teach them the story of Jericho. By the time they graduate kindergarten they should have understanding of the letters that make up the words. We always need to start at the beginning and allow our understanding to progress from there.
 
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But there is one end-time Antichrist
Nebuchadnezzar had to defile the Temple before it could be destroyed. "As the LORD had declared, Nebuchadnezzar removed the treasures from the temple of the LORD and from the royal palace, and cut up the gold articles that Solomon king of Israel had made for the temple of the LORD." (2 Kings 24:13)Same thing happened in 70 AD. We see this today at the Arch of Titus.
 

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Locoponydirtman

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Understanding the requirement for baptism...do not need assumptions...nor customs of time...I encourage you to watch the video..
The video is tedious and difficult to listen to.
 

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The video is tedious and difficult to listen to.
I know..the english isnt great either.. but the information is very great...do not miss any part.
it will definitely broaden your knowledge with regards to being completely born again
 

FlyingDove

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Indeed. Istanbul, formerly Constantinople the head of the Eastern Roman Empire literally 'sits on many waters'. From 324 AD until 1453 when it was conquered by Muslims. The Western Roman Empire lost most of it's power by 300. We miss so much if we insist on focusing everything through a Western lens.
Rev 1:11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.


The Asia reference here would include the Church at Galatia as well as the 7 mentioned in verse 11. All were located in what we call present-day Turkey.
 
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In 2 Thes ch 2 if you read it over and over you will see that the Antichrist is not revealed till after the rapture...and Elijah to come in Mal 4:5-6 must come before the rapture and restore all things...which he cannot do during the 7 year tribulation when the world will be blow apart....

top Christians know this....yet the world is looking for the wrong man first...which is not surprising...few are looking for Elijah or a Elijah like man....

and the Whole Bible says the same thing to everyone for its of no private interpretation....if you master all 66 books and 31,102 verses over lots and lots of hours reading and studying and implimenting the whole thing in context you can hold all truth that is promised in the Bible

So given the rapture can not come till One man Elijah gets here....and given Daniel makes it clear where the Antichrist comes from...Rome...and we know the Vatican rules Rome and the golden cup...the commentaries are clear....but maybe in a modern world now all religion is accepted as equal....but for the NT saints we know who the great whore is...The Vatican and Catholic church....

So we will have a John the Baptist like man that must come on the scene and do things...and the church won't be here for knowing who the Antichrist is...for that's after the rapture....the question is...why not learn the whole Bible and not worry so much about this TV world and cyber mess that is about to be destroyed....God bless

Elias as Moses are used to signify the witness of God .Two working as one in perfect haromnony .Like that of the father and Son .Can't have one without the other. Moses represents the written law "death" . while Elisa represent to the unseen power of the law . Together working as one perfect.

The law and the prophets (the gospel) wil be silenced or killed for a while but it will rise up and continue to do its work until it is cast into the fiery judgment of God.. . never to rise again and condemn a entire creation.

The Parable in Luke 16 uses the two witnesses of God to teach us that there is only once source of faith as it is written in the law and the prophets or called (sola scriptura) .The word of God minus the oral traditions of men.

The rich man( fool) in that parable was seeking after necromancy a legion workers with familiar spirits. . . a abomination. The Catholic call them patron saints.(3500 and rising) He wanted Lazarus to come and warn his brothers .. . denying the power of scripture (all things written in the law and the prophets) warned him twice he still refused to believe prophecy.
 

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Cry us a river...I belittled no one......I laughed and said wrong.....put some pants on and don't be so easily offended which is a sure sign of immaturity!
Now now, there is not any need to be wearing pants while posting on CC. That is one of the fringe benefits, you know.:giggle:
 

oyster67

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Top Christians know there is a double fulfilling...people who are blind don't get it...like they didn't get Christ or John or the apostles Words
Maybe we go for a triple on this one? Are we sure the Anti-Christ will be fully human? Does he have to pick a denomination or religion? Is it OK for me to say I'm not sure? Can I still be a topper?
 

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Now now, there is not any need to be wearing pants while posting on CC. That is one of the fringe benefits, you know.:giggle:
That's hilarious! Far too much information, but hilarious none the less. :ROFL:
 
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Can he not be BOTH? At once a counterfeit imposter AND an (attempted) opposing force to the genuine Messiah/Christ?
He will have to be a counterfeit Christ and in doing it he will deceive even the ellect. He will in the flesh not oppose Christ but in the Spirit there is no other way. This is why it is important to be awake in the Spirit so that we can pick up on the false spirits and christ one day :)

God bless
 

Jackson123

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In 2 Thes ch 2 if you read it over and over you will see that the Antichrist is not revealed till after the rapture...and Elijah to come in Mal 4:5-6 must come before the rapture and restore all things...which he cannot do during the 7 year tribulation when the world will be blow apart....

top Christians know this....yet the world is looking for the wrong man first...which is not surprising...few are looking for Elijah or a Elijah like man....

and the Whole Bible says the same thing to everyone for its of no private interpretation....if you master all 66 books and 31,102 verses over lots and lots of hours reading and studying and implimenting the whole thing in context you can hold all truth that is promised in the Bible

So given the rapture can not come till One man Elijah gets here....and given Daniel makes it clear where the Antichrist comes from...Rome...and we know the Vatican rules Rome and the golden cup...the commentaries are clear....but maybe in a modern world now all religion is accepted as equal....but for the NT saints we know who the great whore is...The Vatican and Catholic church....

So we will have a John the Baptist like man that must come on the scene and do things...and the church won't be here for knowing who the Antichrist is...for that's after the rapture....the question is...why not learn the whole Bible and not worry so much about this TV world and cyber mess that is about to be destroyed....God bless
I think 2 witnesses is come during great tribulation not before
 

Jackson123

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In 2 Thes ch 2 if you read it over and over you will see that the Antichrist is not revealed till after the rapture...and Elijah to come in Mal 4:5-6 must come before the rapture and restore all things...which he cannot do during the 7 year tribulation when the world will be blow apart....
2 Thessalonians 2 not say antichrist reveal after rapture


It reverse

It say rapture not happen before man of sin or antichrist reveal




2 Thessalonians 2
2 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;