Not By Works

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EleventhHour

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Melach said:
the impeachment thing is right now on television. can someone tell me when they vote on it? today? if they vote majority that he can stay then this political theater care is done right?
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The timeline for the trial is two weeks I believe...but I think it will go longer....Clinton's was delayed because of the bombing of Iraq might happen again because of problems with Iran.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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That is not what I mean. Gods grace is so precious, we need to guard it with our life, and not go seeking this world's pleasures, for fear of grieving the Holy Spirit.
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You still do not get what grace is

grace is unearned favor

you can never earn it, you will always every day require it to maintain you

thus by defenition you can never lose it.

your teaching it can be lost, thus by defenition it must be earned, making a mockery of grace and Gods love,
 
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eternally-gratefull

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OneOfHis said:
Ain't that the truth.


At least everyone can agree


we are saved appart from our works by the grace of God and our walk can be nothing more than evidence before man


God is the judge and the only difference between the saved and unsaved in regards to justification would be who is and who is not covered by the blood of Jesus .... which is by Gods grace through faith...
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A certain poster is really showing his colors, a red x on this. Smh
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Discern said:
People who are afraid of leading questions are usually trying too hard to defend something when the best defense of a proposition is to lay it all out and not be afraid of any questions. Because a question is always an opportunity for the responder to shed light in a civil and moderate tone
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YOUR QUESTION HAD NO BEARING
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
You still do not get what grace is

grace is unearned favor

you can never earn it, you will always every day require it to maintain you

thus by defenition you can never lose it.

your teaching it can be lost, thus by defenition it must be earned, making a mockery of grace and Gods love,
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Gifts can be lost.
 
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PS said:
Gifts can be lost.
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Romans 11:29 ►

New International Version
for God's gifts and his call are irrevocable.

New Living Translation
For God’s gifts and his call can never be withdrawn.

English Standard Version
For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.

Berean Study Bible
For God’s gifts and His call are irrevocable.

Berean Literal Bible
For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.

New American Standard Bible
for the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.

New King James Version
For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.

King James Bible
For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.​
 
OneOfHis

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Discern said:
He said ain’t that the truth to the post above it which was a personal attack. I disliked it because he agreed with a personal attack. That is not true btw

Some people feel any other perspective being stated is argumentative.
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Who thought a different petspective being stated was argumentative?

I haven't seen anyone of the people you "experiment" with say such a thing or act in such a way.
 
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Discern

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eternally-gratefull said:
A certain poster is really showing his colors, a red x on this. Smh
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No. You are showing that you don’t read CONTEXT. He said “ain’t that the truth” to a personal attack. And I was not being argumentative, I was replying to posts. I guess replying is argumentative if you don’t say what someone wants you to say.
 
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OneOfHis said:
Who thought a different petspective being stated was argumentative?

I haven't seen anyone of the people you "experiment" with say such a thing or act in such a way.
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Read the post he brought up that I red exxed. Then read what it was a reply to.
 
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Discern said:
If I was in the conditioned defined, should I ask which of the two conditions applies

After all, what if I am deceiving myself
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Multiple people including myself pointed to God's works in us being a much better test than a list of actions.
 
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Discern

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Discern said:
If I was in the conditioned defined, should I ask which of the two conditions applies

After all, what if I am deceiving myself
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Someone says no. Interesting, considering not every one who thinks he’s saved is saved

I tried to leave, but the accusers came back
 
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OneOfHis said:
Multiple people including myself pointed to God's works in us being a much better test than a list of actions.
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Gods works in us? You mean like a new nature? I concur. A new nature leads to newness of life, if not sooner than later

So you kind of made my point
 
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