Not By Works

What is my hidden agenda? I must have hidden it from myself because I have not seen it.


If you suggest it was to imply the quote had no additional words, that is false. I will say right now I did indeed single out a false accusation you made against dcon but that was not hidden.

I did it in the open opposed to you trying to stir defensive responses to a silly imaginary story you had.


I have never seen you in a fruitful discussion and you go from false accusation to false accusation to baiting and little digs.


I am brutally honest about what I see from you in hopes for an honest explination, which if I recieved I would quickly apologize. (as I have here many times)

I love honesty and hate lies.

You ommitted the relevant part and put a period where there was a comma. The relevant part of what I said was the second part of the sentence, which you chose to omit in order to create a pretext. Read my quote again

Better yet, why don't you quote the whole sentence so people can see what I said?

Here you plainly said we were talking about dcon that you misquoted. Not “want a binkie”

Bad look for you

Psst, if you click the arrow at the top of the quote it takes you to the original post....

I quoted your false accusation about dcon and now your blame shifting because he has discussed what you said he would need a thinking cap to see before your joined the forums.

What is the second part of “the sentence want a binkie?

What sentence ?


I was under the assumption youre accusing me falsely because i only quoted your accusation of dcon and not what followed in that post...

are you speaking of another post?


if youre speaking the when you tried to bait me with "want a binkie"

you edited that post


you originally just posted that sentence and mods can see that...


i quoted the original post and not the edited one... before you edited it


if youre crying about that bit... that is another act of dishonesty because you know it was an edited post where you added the period

Here again you said we were talking about the Dcon quote. Bad look on you

In case you missed it. First sentence of second paragraph. You knew what we were talking about and it was not want a binkie.

By the way, you did not partially quote want a binkie and there was no period, I said you removed the period) there was a question mark. And you repeatedly showed that you knew what we were talking about, including the post above

I have two times I quoted you in my mind.

1 where you lied about dcon or if not lied just said an untruth (false accusation by mistake)


That I partially quoted because you specifically asked where were the false accusations I brought up, I then showed only the most recent one by itself so you could see it. Not for anyone else.


The next sentence I quoted in its entirety before you edited it. (you added the period)
(where you baited me by asking if I want a binki)



If you are speaking of the second option, you ... are lower than I thought.


You would accuse a child of God of having a hidden agenda for quoting your original post before you edited it, then claiming he edited it?

What sentence ?


I was under the assumption youre accusing me falsely because i only quoted your accusation of dcon and not what followed in that post...

are you speaking of another post?


if youre speaking the when you tried to bait me with "want a binkie"

you edited that post


you originally just posted that sentence and mods can see that...


i quoted the original post and not the edited one... before you edited it


if youre crying about that bit... that is another act of dishonesty because you know it was an edited post where you added the period

Did you mean your edited sentence I quoted in it's entirety before YOU edited it?


Where you asked if I want a binki?

Because if that's what youre speaking of you are a sad sad person.

It would prove beyond a doubt you are willfully lying about others....

Do you want a binkie?

And the dishonest tactics you think you see are not there. I did not change your answer, I did not falsely accuse anyone. I did nothing you accuse me of. And I think there are RULES against accusing people of dishonesty, aren't there? Why are you breaking the rules?

^
Lie proven as such 2-3 times in the last few pages.

Here again you said we were talking about the Dcon quote. Bad look on you

I hope God uses someone to help you who you won't slander and attempt to manipulate and it is fruitful in your life.


I'm done with this.


I have 100% a clean heart that I have been honest here.

(maybe not 100% patient or mature or the best with words here, but i have been honest where you have been an accuser with false claims)

How did you partially quote the sentence “want a binkie”?

And how could you have removed a period when it is ended with a question mark?

Food for thought.

you are definately macaroni no way you are not mr . macaroni seriously or am i going crazy bro

you are definately macaroni no way you are not mr . macaroni seriously or am i going crazy bro

All I can see is this person loves lies and hates truth and tries to stir the body of Christ using false accusations and admitted hidden agendas.

All I can see is this person loves lies and hates truth and tries to stir the body of Christ using false accusations and admitted hidden agendas.

If you had


If you had put on your thinking hat, you would have realized that some opponents of NOSAS here have accused OSAS of using grace as a license to sin. One possible answer to that is if a person is using grace as a license to sin, it is possible they were never saved. Nothing controversial. The alternative would be that everyone who uses grace as a license to sin is definitely saved, and I know you wouldn't say that. Only a madman would say that.

Sometimes your arguments are self defeating. As evidenced by your objection to me saying "if one sins licentiously, it is possible, they were never saved." Simple and self evident, to most anyways.

All I can see is this person loves lies and hates truth and tries to stir the body of Christ using false accusations and admitted hidden agendas.

Grace can no be earned. Genes it can’t be losr. Else it must be earned meaning it is not grace

I wish you could learn what grace is

Putting your thinking hat on is not merely acknowledging a fact. It is putting the pieces together. You don’t need a thinking hat to know an evident fact.

You ignored the rest of what I said and pulled one thing out of context. You left out vital pieces of what I said. That is taking things out of context

So I retract the statement that you partial quoted and reaffirm that you took my words out of context by completely ignoring the rest of the post, ie ignored context

You are wrong, again.

Many here including dcon have spoken hundreds of times about this issue but your "abortion" of a story or example paired with your desperation to make others appear "defensive" while you change the answers of others and double speak made everything you say so weak and powerless the original point no longer matters.

It had been discussed when pretty much every new but honest member joins who is less focused on Christ and more focused on self when they seek assurance.... They see "not by works" and get offended as if scriptures don't clearly explain this.


This thread is meant to give God ALL the glory for salvation, and within it everyone who knows the truth including who you quoted also knows there are tares among the wheat.🙄


You seem to have a hidden agenda when I look at your posts as a whole.


Every person you have been choosing to argue with understands this truth. If you want less push back be more open and honest.