Is it really forgiveness if you don't let the person know you've forgiven them?

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I would say that the bible prescribes that we let people know when they've offended us (can't think of the exact verse, but several in the new testament and in the old testament tell you to go to your brother or neighbor if they offend you, and "not suffer sin on them").
I think there's a tendency to consider forgiveness as a one sided thing. But have you really forgiven someone if they don't even know if they offended you in the first place?
There are a lot of verses in the bible that tell us to let others know if we've been wronged.
Furthermore, I've been finding a lot of healing in opening up to others if I've been offended.
I used to think that by overlooking something as if it had never happened, I was doing the right thing. But it didn't feel right to just let something go without giving the person the chance to know that they had done something wrong. In the cases where I've actually at least told the person, my conscience feels clear and my spirit feels lighter.
What does everyone else think?
 

TheLearner

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Did they ask you to forgive them? It is best to forgive to avoid it festering and becoming worse.

Hebrews 12:15 looking carefully lest there be any man that falleth short of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby the many be defiled;
 

Melach

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i believe yes it still is forgiveness. many times you cant even meet that person again and also sometimes its best not to bother if its someone who is very bad for you.

i also noticed that sometimes people get triggered and think you are holier than thou if you say like "i forgive you its ok" they get really mad about it.
 

Dino246

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I would say that the bible prescribes that we let people know when they've offended us (can't think of the exact verse, but several in the new testament and in the old testament tell you to go to your brother or neighbor if they offend you, and "not suffer sin on them").
I think there's a tendency to consider forgiveness as a one sided thing. But have you really forgiven someone if they don't even know if they offended you in the first place?
There are a lot of verses in the bible that tell us to let others know if we've been wronged.
Furthermore, I've been finding a lot of healing in opening up to others if I've been offended.
I used to think that by overlooking something as if it had never happened, I was doing the right thing. But it didn't feel right to just let something go without giving the person the chance to know that they had done something wrong. In the cases where I've actually at least told the person, my conscience feels clear and my spirit feels lighter.
What does everyone else think?
Welcome to CC, Cyph!
Allow me to offer a suggestion, as you are new. It's best to do a bit of homework on the issue that you're discussing. BibleGateway.com allows you to do a keyword search in any of about 50 English translations; it's like a concordance, except that you can search for several words or a phrase rather than just a single word. That way, you're not opening the discussion with, "I think the Bible says such and such". :)

To the specific topic, Jesus says in Mark 11:25, "Whenever you stand praying, forgive, if you have anything against anyone, so that your Father who is in heaven will also forgive you your transgressions." Nothing is said about telling the offending person; it's a transaction between the offended and God. I'm not aware of anything in Scripture specifically commanding or recommending telling the offender and then forgiving them.

I'll use the term, "confrontation" to mean telling the offender what action has caused the transgression; it doesn't mean an unpleasant confrontation. Because there is so little in Scripture on the subjects of confronting and extending forgiveness, we need to employ some wisdom. With regard to telling the offender what they have done, it may be appropriate. In many cases, both the offender and offended will be well aware of the transgression. In others, the offender will not accept responsibility or doesn't value being forgiven, so telling them is fruitless. Occasionally, the"offender" may actually be innocent of wrongdoing; people get mad at God, but He doesn't do anything wrong. I would suggest that if the relationship is close enough (a family member, housemate, or close neighbour), and the grievance serious enough or is a pattern of behaviour, then confronting may be appropriate. One more thought: if you do tell the offender, be specific and focus on the action, not the person, so that your confrontation is redemptive.

With regard to extending forgiveness, it depends also on the nature of the relationship and of the offense. Sometimes it can't be done; many people process offenses from the previous generation after they have died. In other cases, direct communication may be inappropriate or even impossible; for example, abused children should not attempt such communication with their abusers. Sometimes it just isn't necessary.

When Jesus died on the cross, He took the penalty for all our sins. When we first believe the gospel, the Holy Spirit does not confront us with every sin (well, most people don't experience that). Rather, as we grow in Christ, He brings things to our attention that need processing with Him; these can be old hurts and offenses that are decades old. He doesn't intend that we reconcile every relationship, but that we reconcile the one that matters: between ourselves and Him. Forgiving others takes place, as the verse from Mark says, when you are praying. The offender need never know, but if they are aware of the transgression, your changed attitude toward them will tell them they are forgiven. Sometimes, being Christlike means carrying the weight--and consequences--of someone else's transgression and forgiving them anyway.

There is another important component to the discussion, which you didn't mention: repentance. Forgiving another does not require that they repent first, because they may never repent, and you are still called to forgive. Telling them their transgression and extending forgiveness with no repentance may simply lead to further transgression; God's direction in this is needed. Just remember that forgiveness frees you, not necessarily the person you forgive.
 
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Welcome to CC, Cyph!
Allow me to offer a suggestion, as you are new.....
Your post is full of really good stuff that changes most of what I was thinking. Especially that verse about forgiving them before God in prayer. You're right, I should do my homework, but I'm glad you were able to post your thoughts on the issue. :) The whole thing is food for thought and I really appreciate it.
 

Melach

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Your post is full of really good stuff that changes most of what I was thinking. Especially that verse about forgiving them before God in prayer. You're right, I should do my homework, but I'm glad you were able to post your thoughts on the issue. :) The whole thing is food for thought and I really appreciate it.
dont do it its no fun just ask away that way we can converse its more authentic. if we all just google and search there is no forum. i love your attitude i want to kiss you bro.
 

Adstar

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I would say that the bible prescribes that we let people know when they've offended us (can't think of the exact verse, but several in the new testament and in the old testament tell you to go to your brother or neighbor if they offend you, and "not suffer sin on them").
I think there's a tendency to consider forgiveness as a one sided thing. But have you really forgiven someone if they don't even know if they offended you in the first place?
There are a lot of verses in the bible that tell us to let others know if we've been wronged.
Furthermore, I've been finding a lot of healing in opening up to others if I've been offended.
I used to think that by overlooking something as if it had never happened, I was doing the right thing. But it didn't feel right to just let something go without giving the person the chance to know that they had done something wrong. In the cases where I've actually at least told the person, my conscience feels clear and my spirit feels lighter.
What does everyone else think?
For forgiveness to happen the offender must at lest admit their offense to the one offended..

You cannot forgive a person who has not acknowledged their misdeed..

What does God require of us for us to be forgiven? He requires us to acknowledge our sins to repent to Him and to then trust in the Atonement Jesus secured for us on the cross..

So if we never acknowledge our sins against God and seek his forgiveness then will God grant us His Atonement? nope..

So why do people think it is any different when it comes to human to human forgiveness?

Yes we Christians should give over judgement / revenge to God.. Give it to God is the expression.. Yes we should make it clear to the one who has offended us that they have offended us and given them the opportunity to acknowledge their wrong to us so that we can forgive them..
 

JaumeJ

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I would say that the bible prescribes that we let people know when they've offended us (can't think of the exact verse, but several in the new testament and in the old testament tell you to go to your brother or neighbor if they offend you, and "not suffer sin on them").
I think there's a tendency to consider forgiveness as a one sided thing. But have you really forgiven someone if they don't even know if they offended you in the first place?
There are a lot of verses in the bible that tell us to let others know if we've been wronged.
Furthermore, I've been finding a lot of healing in opening up to others if I've been offended.
I used to think that by overlooking something as if it had never happened, I was doing the right thing. But it didn't feel right to just let something go without giving the person the chance to know that they had done something wrong. In the cases where I've actually at least told the person, my conscience feels clear and my spirit feels lighter.
What does everyone else think?
The Bible advises us to inform a Brother if he sins, be it against you are simply sins.

It goes on ot teach us to advise him (or her) of the sin. If your advice is not heeded you are to take two or three of the Brethren and advise him. If this fails the congregation, and if this fails you are to treat him as an unbeliever.
 

Ghoti2

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Going out of your way to tell someone who probably doesn't care that you forgive them, is really just blowing your own sanctimonious horn. Much like the people on forums who tell people they argue with that they "are praying for them", or they sigh off with, "Bless you!". It's all kind of phony.
 

JaumeJ

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We are taught to bless the brethren and adversaries alike. To do it is what we are taught to do. We also pray, I for one, that our blessings be sincere.

Now I believe you do not know the love of God or you could never put out a blankegt accusation including all who do believe Jesus, Yeshua. I will clos blessing you and praying I mean it. I believe I do. I believe everyone here who does the same means it. If they do not it is not yours to say or know for only God knows the hearts of men, but you should pray they be sincere..I do.