Not By Works

Sorry sir, I WILL NOT compromise my understanding of the Truth for you or any mere mortal.

I stand by every statement I have made. And I've been teaching this for many years now, as an elder, deacon and Bible teacher in churches, at retreats, Bible Studies and home fellowships.

God warned me, just as Jesus warned His disciples, that many, if not most, would reject His Word and embrace the "traditions of man", rather than for one minute believe they will be held accountable for their sins in that Day.

But God will have His remnant.

I have to work. But they did give us vets some breakfast

Well.....good morning peeps....another day of NOT earning or maintaining salvation by what we do or don't do........

It pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe!

Trust Jesus before it is too late....do not be found in the MANY grouping that believe in their mind that the right to enter is based partially or completely upon the MANY WONDERFUL WORKS THEY DO IN THE NAME OF JESUS........that road leads to being rejected by the Son........!!

The cross and resurrection are a completed WORK!

Sheer folly to believe anything else.

I doubt you are still among us as your theology has not been well received by some of the most vocal opponents.
I think those who promote the Trinity fail to realize, or perhaps they do and just interject the words of men so as to manifest the doctrine they accept as true, that Trinity is never a word even in Greek nor in Hebrew as pertains to either the New or Old Testaments, respectively.
And how would it ? After God repeatedly tells us in various passages of His word, that He is one. And beside Him there is no Savior.


Isaiah 42:8 “I am the LORD; that is my name! I will not give my glory to anyone else, nor share my praise with carved idols.

The Book of Isaiah 43:
(CJV)11.I, yes I, am Adonai;
besides me there is no deliverer.

ASV)11. 11 I, even I, am Jehovah; and besides me there is no saviour.

The Book of John chapter 1:1-2 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God.

The Book of John chapter 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

The Book of John 10:30 "I and the Father are one.”

God is Holy Spirit

100% believe.....it is finished is clear enough, not only by what is implied, but also from an accounting standpoint....Paid in full!!

100% believe.....it is finished is clear enough, not only by what is implied, but also from an accounting standpoint....Paid in full!!

Sorry sir, I WILL NOT compromise my understanding of the Truth for you or any mere mortal.

I stand by every statement I have made. And I've been teaching this for many years now, as an elder, deacon and Bible teacher in churches, at retreats, Bible Studies and home fellowships.

God warned me, just as Jesus warned His disciples, that many, if not most, would reject His Word and embrace the "traditions of man", rather than for one minute believe they will be held accountable for their sins in that Day.

But God will have His remnant.

I doubt you are still among us as your theology has not been well received by some of the most vocal opponents.
I think those who promote the Trinity fail to realize, or perhaps they do and just interject the words of men so as to manifest the doctrine they accept as true, that Trinity is never a word even in Greek nor in Hebrew as pertains to either the New or Old Testaments, respectively.
And how would it ? After God repeatedly tells us in various passages of His word, that He is one. And beside Him there is no Savior.


Isaiah 42:8 “I am the LORD; that is my name! I will not give my glory to anyone else, nor share my praise with carved idols.

The Book of Isaiah 43:
(CJV)11.I, yes I, am Adonai;
besides me there is no deliverer.

ASV)11. 11 I, even I, am Jehovah; and besides me there is no saviour.

The Book of John chapter 1:1-2 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God.

The Book of John chapter 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

The Book of John 10:30 "I and the Father are one.”

God is Holy Spirit

do not be found in the MANY grouping that believe in their mind that the right to enter is based partially or completely upon the MANY WONDERFUL WORKS THEY DO IN THE NAME OF JESUS........

Is this modalism? Who is Jesus talking to when He prays?

Is this modalism? Who is Jesus talking to when He prays?

Jesus was for all appearances a man, born into a Jewish family. He entered the temple with His family as a child and He also taught from the sacred scrolls even as a child. Prayer according to the law of Moses is required to fulfill the law. If Jesus had never prayed, being his Disciples saw him as a man, people who followed him saw him as a man, and most if not all those followers were Jews, they would have believed He sinned in not obeying the law.
All people are called to worship God and as we know prayer is one form of worship.
Jesus led by example.

Micah 5:2
“But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah,
Though you are little among the thousands of Judah,
Yet out of you shall come forth to Me
The One to be Ruler in Israel,
Whose goings forth are from of old,
From [a]everlasting.”

The "Trinity" is one God in three eternal coexistent persons: The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

Yes, that's what Trinitarians affirm. However, Micah 5:2 that you posted does not say that.
Commentary on Micah 5:2-5a

According to who? your internet preachers at workingpreacher.org?

But, not according to the truth that is presented by learned and proven biblical commentators,

Ellicott's
"Whose goings forth have been from of old.—The nativity of the governor of Israel is evidently contrasted with an eternal nativity, the depth of which mystery passes the comprehension of human intellect: it must be spiritually discerned. The Creed of the Church expresses the article of faith as “Begotten of His Father before all worlds.” He came forth unto Me to be Ruler in Israel, whose goings forth have been of old, from everlasting, from the days of antiquity. "

Benson
Whose goings forth have been of old from everlasting — Hebrew, מימי עולם מקדם, rendered by the LXX., απ αχης, εξ ημεων αιωνος; and exactly in the same sense by the Vulgate, ab initio, a diebus æternitatis, from the beginning, from the days of eternity. So these Hebrew expressions must of necessity signify in divers places of Scripture, being used to signify the eternity of God: see Psalm 55:19; Psalm 90:2; Proverbs 8:23; Habakkuk 1:12. The words naturally import an original, distinct from the birth of Christ mentioned in the foregoing sentence, which original is here declared to be from all eternity.

Barnes'
"Whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting - Literally, "from the days of eternity." "Going forth" is opposed to "going forth;" a "going forth" out of Bethlehem, to a "going forth from eternity;" a "going forth," which then was still to come, (the prophet says, "shall go forth,") to a "going forth" which had been long ago (Rup.), "not from the world but from the beginning, not in the days of time, but "from the days of eternity." For "in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The Same was in the beginning with God." John 1:1-2. In the end of the days, He was to go forth from Bethlehem; but, lest he should be thought then to have had His Being, the prophet adds, His 'goings forth are from everlasting.'" Here words, denoting eternity and used of the eternity of God, are united together to impress the belief of the Eternity of God the Son. We have neither thought nor words to conceive eternity; we can only conceive of time lengthened out without end. : "True eternity is boundless life, all existing at once," or , "to duration without beginning and without end and without change."

and the list goes on....

Micah 5:2 commentaries

Micah 5:2
“But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah,
Though you are little among the thousands of Judah,
Yet out of you shall come forth to Me
The One to be Ruler in Israel,
Whose goings forth are from of old,
From [a]everlasting.”

Keep studying....

According to who? You ask. When you ignore God telling you there is only one and there is none other beside him, you are taking what is not actually in scripture but is Eisegesis that essentially calls God a liar.
I would suggest you begin your studies. And the best way to start is not the way you demonstrate you think in the above reply to me.