Does man have a libertarian free will?

For that to be true there would not be evidence of a single scripture that pertains or speaks of man's free will.
Remember people, claiming God made you without the capacity to exercise choice, which is a product of free will, is disparaging God in who's image and likeness you are made. Because God has a will, God is compassionate, God is gracious, all qualities that you, made in His likeness, would then possess.

God gave us total free till the Fall happened. After that, we have extremely limited freedom to make decisions. You have proven nothing but that you know nothing, and you do not read the posts people write, which clearly explain Reformed theology. The fact that you won't call it by its proper name, shows what a stubborn and ignorant person you are. You are the one disparaging God, saying he cannot do whatever he wills.

"Our God is in heaven!
He does whatever he pleases!" Pdalm 115:3

Deuteronomy 30:19, 20 I call heaven and earth to witness against you today, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and curse. Therefore choose life, that you and your offspring may live,

Context is national not personal. God was speaking to the nation of Israel, not individuals about free will. And the limitation that makes it NOT free will, is that it was about the nation choosing to sin, or not sin. Those have always been the parameters of our will, since the fall!

Matthew 22:35-37 And one of them, a lawyer, asked him a question to test him. 36 “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?” 37 And he said to him, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.

No clue what this is about in your mind. Nothing to do with an unlimited free will. Jesus is talking about 2 commandments, this one, and love your neighbour as yourself, which he says next. Maybe instead of copying and pasting scripture and scripture, you could exegete how it proves your point?

John 7:17 If anyone's will is to do God's will, he will know whether the teaching is from God or whether I am speaking on my own authority.

Goodness! This is Jesus talking about himself, and how he does God's will! Did you google the word "will" and this is what came up?"

Revelation 3:20 - Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

This is talking to Christians. Jesus feels they have shut the door on him. It is not an invitation to unbelievers. In fact, it is best described as a warning, not to sin. Again, well within the limitations of our limited will.

Doctrines that insist man has no free will, no capacity to choose, are saying God controls everything at all times.
That is not true. God is sovereign, yes! However, God has said Himself that He does not at all times control every little thing happening here. As we read about God's restraint toward Babylon in Isaiah 42.

13The Lord goes out like a mighty man,
like a man of war he stirs up his zeal;
he cries out, he shouts aloud,
he shows himself mighty against his foes.

14 For a long time I have held my peace;
I have kept still and restrained myself;
now I will cry out like a woman in labor;
I will gasp and pant.
15 I will lay waste mountains and hills,
and dry up all their vegetation;
I will turn the rivers into islands,[c]
and dry up the pools.

God let Babylon behave as they chose. Until He decided to not do that anymore. If God was always in control of all things all the time? Think about that. Think about what that would mean for all humanity just as concerns the construct of Salvation/ Damnation! It's God playing chess. And we're the pawns. Forever.

This is your problem! You really don't believe in the sovereignty of God. You have a weak, impotent God, instead of an omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent God. God is always in control, and is above time. He always knows what is going to happen, because he is not confined within time, as we mere morals are. One day, you will understand this. But until then, I'm not going to deal with the rest. Your ignorance in hermeneutics bores me to tears. Your are completely clueless about how to correctly divide the word. I am saying this to you, not necessarily all Arminians.

Oh, you are funny. Faith is not a work and is definitely not volitional.


No one can "will" their belief in Christ..... it does not happen that way.

See bolded blue large quotes within your quote!

I disagree, faith is established and confirmed by works, "Faith without works is dead" (James 2:26).. Also read Hebrews 11, by faith Abraham did this, by faith Noah did that, etc.

And belief is a choice, "whosoever believeth in him should not perish". So when one hears the gospel and chooses to believe, they have willingly chose to accept a truth.

So do you think you had some good in you, before God saved you? I know I did not!

Perhaps God did me a big favour, by allowing me to fall into a deep, dark pit before he saved me. There was no doubt in my mind I was depraved, even totally depraved, although I had never heard those terms until decades after God saved me.

I tried over and over to pull myself up by the bootstraps. It would work for a day or maybe more. But then, the total depravity would reassert itself. I started reading the Bible, but I was blind, it made no sense to me. People told me about Jesus, and how a sinner's prayer would save me. I said a sinner's prayer, and nothing happened. It was just my will.

But, when God lifted me out of that pit, in less than an instant, I was a new, redeemed person. I was changed, and had a new heart. I didn't decide anything, God called me, and I was a new creature in Christ. There was no change of my will, but a complete reordering of who I was by the Holy Spirit.

Maybe it is harder if you are a pretty good person, living a decent life, to acknowledge your own depravity. One might say, "Oh, I'm not perfect, but I try my best." What does "trying your best:" have to do with the will and purpose of God? If you are not transformed by the power of God, you are still as lost in that dark pit as I was, but you don't even realize it.

Be sure God has called you to this great a salvation. I am not saying that a belief system saves you. But certainly, in order to repent of your sin, you can't say that some areas need repenting, but I am 50% or 75% or even 2% good. Better to understand that no one is good, except God alone, (Mark 10:18; Luke 18:19) and go from darkness to light. From total depravity to walking with Christ in his fullness.

Totally unable to save oneself is true but totally unable to respond to the gospel is not true.

"believeth" is not an act of the will.

You cannot make yourself believe.

Everyone is Arminian and has a free will until they get saved. Then they become Calvinist and deem themselves Calvinist elect. Like the church in Revelation 2 they have forgotten their first love.

I found it heart rending that Harold Camping held to Calvinist theology and would never allow himself to actually believe that he was saved. I heard him many times on his radio show endeavor to talk people out of their profession of faith. I only tuned him in to hear the good Christian music he had on the station. He is in Gods hands now and the books he wrote setting the date of Christs return have long been shown to be wrong.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

Oh, you are funny. Faith is not a work and is definitely not volitional.


No one can "will" their belief in Christ..... it does not happen that way.

The word "autonomous" means "self-law".

In other words, the person is self-governing in the free-willer theology. He is not affected by external influences, including God.

This is what libertarian free will teaches. It posits that the will has not been corrupted by the fall, and has the power of contrary choice, or the power to act against one's nature.

By the way, God himself doesn't act contrary to his nature. So, vain man thinks that he can act according to a nature he doesn't possess, and that the will is a separate component from his corrupted soul.

Amen little brother....if we take his view to the proverbial tenth degree, God becomes the author of all evil act that men have committed......there is a balance to be struck in the middle from both sides of this coin.

The water influences the movement of a fish, but the fish goes where it wants to in the pond!

I would agree the Spirit of Truth God cannot act contrary to His law of truth. The same law he himself is subject to that he magnifies above all his name . .

He is of one mind and always does whatsoever his soul desires. He is he author and perfecter of free will . It is him working in us to both will and do his own God pleasure.

His name as a attribute is "Jealous" he owns the spirits and souls of all mankind. He will not share his unseen glory with the corruptipted flesh.

We are not to have gods in the likeness of men before Him

Exodus 34:14 For thou shalt worship no other god: for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God:

His love is not jealous freely giving us faith that comes from hearing His words to those who had none preciously.

From birth he conclude all in unbelief (no faith) by which they could understand and believe the Spirit of Truth not seen .

Romans 11:32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, (no faith) that he might have mercy upon all.

Its how we look at the word faith (not of our own selves)Freely given a living hope. . the father of lies does not snatch the seed of faith away , . . before it as it is written works in us to soften our hearts, our sabbath rest. .

Deuteronomy 32:20 And he said, I will hide my face from them, I will see what their end shall be: for they are a very froward generation, children in whom is "no faith".

Job 23:13-16 But he is in one mind, and who can turn him? and what his soul desireth, even that he doeth. For he performeth the thing that is appointed for me: and many such things are with him.Therefore am I troubled at his presence: when I consider, I am afraid of him.For God maketh my "heart soft", and the Almighty troubleth me:

yes he does. or else we arent responsible for what we do.

another cult of calvin advertisement from this guy. he never gets tired of telling us he is reformed, every topic every post. what about just being christian?,

Wonder what he is reformed from?

he struggles with a remnant of the old nature called "the flesh", but that is his consistent desire and direction.

What exactly are you talking about here?
Please be specific.

Free will--the ability to choose how to act. : the ability to make choices that are not controlled by fate or God.

Right here is the crux of the matter. Ppl do not like the thought of being not in control. It's the proverbial "my way or the highway" mentality. I am reminded by this ‘We do not want this man to reign over us.’[Luke 19:14]

If they had a child out playing in the street and a car was barreling towards their child, to remain consistent with their free will theology, they wouldn't run and snatch the child away. They should stand there and tell their child, "Honey, there is a car barreling towards you! Please get out of the road!" The child then yells "No!" and keeps on playing. Over and over again, they keep pleading with their child to get out of harm's way, but to no avail. They keep telling them, "Child, I really, really do love you. I want the very best for you and want to come to me and get out of harm's way. But I will not force you to get out of the road. It's up to you to choose what you want to do. I will not force you to come to me. I have a better way for you, but its up to you to choose." Then all of a sudden, SPLAT!!

They stand before a judge and tell them how they handled that situation. Do you think that judge will tell them they did the prudent thing? Absolutely not! He gives them 20+ years in a state pen...if they're lucky.

Your faith must be a volitional response.