Psychics, magicians, fortune tellers, astrologers and faith healers

Ahh I see like horoscopes and the like, though I would not know what to call it if someone saw a asteroid heading on a direct path to earth in a telescope, would that be considered astronomical or astrological event kind of seems like both Hahaha

Yes... horoscopes are prepared by astrologers. They are a snare for the undiscerning.

No, Agnostic is a compromise word that atheist that are afraid use.

yea that is probably true, though if a astronomer sees a asteroid heading to earth and says hey this thing is heading towards earth and will effect many people isn’t that a form of astrology a prediction

Things don't have to be materiel to be observed, because we can see the effect that would have no other explanation, but that very thing. Like energy we can't see it, but we can see it's effects, like Air we can't see but we can see its effects. Emotions are also something that can be observed and all of them can be seen effecting different parts of the brain. Most of the spiritual experiences have been observed when through various brain scans as seen in this Atlantic article all scientist still call these experiences subjective and nothing seems to be proven concerning the "spiritual realm"

No, astrology is a pseudoscience that claims to have divine information about human affairs and terrestrial events by studying the movements and relative positions of celestial objects. Astrology has been dated to at least the 2nd millennium BCE, and has its roots in calendrical systems used to predict seasonal shifts and to interpret celestial cycles as signs of divine communications.Its olso linked to zodiacs and crystal healing in some circumstances.

the zodiac stuff is weird, but a terrestrial event like an asteroid hitting earth on such and such date in the future seems like astrology

It's prediction, no different from getting out of the path of an oncoming train, but it's not astrology. Astrology would be seeing the Saturn appear close to the moon and claiming that it will have a particular effect on people.

"Nothing seems to be proven"... using experimental scientific investigation. Some things are not subject to scientific investigate. Science involves that which is observable, testable, repeatable, and falsifiable. If a field of investigation doesn't fall into all those categories, it isn't experimental science.

If it did it probably would have an effect on people hehe

the train thing that would be stupidity not to get out of the way of a oncoming train, not much of a prediction there lol

You're missing the point. The prediction is that the train is coming, based on observation and the laws of physics. It's not magic. Astrology claims to make predictions not based on simple observation and the laws of physics.

I get it, sorry for the jokes

Though real bad magic is no even close to real good spiritual movements, though it is there, the snakes in the Bible proves there is magic not of the good kind though

You say in your profile that you believed you were saved. By what basis did you believe that?

There is a very good possibility that spirit beings cannot be captured on film or recorded digitally. Just as no one can see your soul and spirit, yet they are there and do exist.

I used to be active in the occult. It surely is real. Are u christian?

WNA,
you are obviously out of 'the loop' at this time of your life,
prayerfully it won't be for to much longer, hang in there...

I just want to bring this back to the subject. Occult is something I've also delved into when I was 17 and everything I saw was based on my mind set at the time, I believed that there was some kind of power to be gained by spells, burning candles and reading "forbidden knowledge books" one I remember that I was fascinated was The Book of the law written by Alester Crowley. I still remember the feeling of reading certain passages about spirituality and forces beyond with ow e and wonder, while being afraid to let anyone else discover the book that I kept under the bed. We don't have to argue about what we experienced, because we both know what those feelings are like, real and as real as the ground that we stand on, yet this is not a good reason to accept it as something that indeed proves the spiritual realm. Because feeling and emotions are just based on the information that we have received up to that point in our lives and our responses are based on subconscious triggers in the brain. Why do some people have Arachnophobia, its not a decision they make its a response that they have when they see a spider based on the way their brain is wired.

My point is experience and our interpretation of something does not make it objective. Just as one can claim to have experienced the spiritual another in the same situation can claim having no experience, which again shows how subjective emotional and spiritual experiences are.

Nothing about the spiritual has been proven:
Psychic fail compilation 1 , Psychic fail compilation 2 , Psychic fail compilation 3
These are some of the examples of where claimed psychic ability wielders fail to objectively demonstrate that the power actually exists.
There are tens of thousands more examples like this both recorded and not recorded, but zero ones that prove the existence of such abilities.

Asking if I'm a christian is Irrelevant to the topic since we are trying to asses the evidence for or against the supernatural, we can believe it, but it won't make it true and Truth is what I am after here.

Simple answer.. God does not want to be proven by scientific method..

God want's to draw people by His WORD.... His Message... and Jesus... Jesus is the Word of God..

So it is not beyond God to prevent a miracle happening if it is being observed and measured by scientists.. A person may be able through the power of the Holy Spirit to heal others.. But if they try to prove it to people who disbelieve in the Message of God like anti-christian skeptics who hate the Word of God.. Then God no doubt will prevent any miracles happening around those people..

It's not the level of evidence that you seem to be desiring by the type of evidence ( scientific evidence/ non Biblical evidence ) As in evidence outside the message of God..

So i am curious what was one of the questions no one could answer?

Also how can you know irrefutably that ""it was a lie"" what was the lie?