Did Jesus ever tell us that we no longer need to keep the law of Moses?

What about the conscience when It comes to the law how do you gauge what Is effective when It comes to what you are thinking.

GODs law should be the gauge which Is righteousness.

SO now Matt and Luke are at odds? I disagree, they both record Jesus words as direct quoted.

Also either way, heaven and earth ahs not passed and ALL has not yet been fulfilled.

But Paul says the Law is no longer in effect.

Jesus teaches the law of GOd:


John 7:16-17, " 16 So Jesus answered them, “My teaching is not mine, but his who sent me. 17 If anyone's will is to do God's will, he will know whether the teaching is from God or whether I am speaking on my own authority."

So your telling hen Jesus says: ", I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law" It not God's law? It nothing will pas it has to already be established.

Matthew 5:17-20, " 17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished. 19 Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.

John 12:44-50, " 44 And Jesus cried out and said, “Whoever believes in me, believes not in me but in him who sent me. 45 And whoever sees me sees him who sent me. 46 I have come into the world as light, so that whoever believes in me may not remain in darkness. 47 If anyone hears my words and does not keep them, I do not judge him; for I did not come to judge the world but to save the world. 48 The one who rejects me and does not receive my words has a judge; the word that I have spoken will judge him on the last day. 49 For I have not spoken on my own authority, but the Father who sent me has himself given me a commandment—what to say and what to speak. 50 And I know that his commandment is eternal life. What I say, therefore, I say as the Father has told me.”

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Revelation 14:12-13, " 12 Here is a call for the endurance of the saints, those who keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus. 13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying, “Write this: Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on.” “Blessed indeed,” says the Spirit, “that they may rest from their labors, for their deeds follow them!”

Jesus was talking about the law of Moses, not God's law. He was talking about it because the Pharisees were accusing Him of attempting to destroy the Law.

Well Jesus says it is:

Luke 16:16-17, " 16 “The Law and the Prophets were until John; since then the good news of the kingdom of God is preached, and everyone forces his way into it. 17 But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for one dot of the Law to become void.

The Father says it is written in the heart and mind:

Hebrews 10:16-17, " 16 “This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, declares the Lord: I will put my laws on their hearts, and write them on their minds,” 17 then he adds, “I will remember their sins and their lawless deeds no more.”

Thus I would ask you, if Paul tells ou the law is no more and Jesus and the Father say it is still active, who would you choose to believe and follow?

But Paul says the Law is no longer in effect.

You are really reaching now IMO.

The "sermon on the mount" from Mat 5 was not Jesus talking to Pharisees and Luke 16-17 was talking to pharisees.

It is no less true, Jesus does not lie, and we also have Him saying basically the same thiong as I said NOT to Pharisees.

Also God;'s law was never Moses law, God gave His law THROUGH Moses, people trying to use symbolic language to say it was "Moses law" are either dishonest or have not read this (I assume you have not read this for the record):

Malachi 4:1-6, " 1 “For behold, the day is coming, burning like an oven, when all the arrogant and all evildoers will be stubble. The day that is coming shall set them ablaze, says the LORD of hosts, so that it will leave them neither root nor branch. 2 But for you who fear my name, the sun of righteousness shall rise with healing in its wings. You shall go out leaping like calves from the stall. 3 And you shall tread down the wicked, for they will be ashes under the soles of your feet, on the day when I act, says the LORD of hosts. 4 “Remember the law of my servant Moses, the statutes and rules that I commanded him at Horeb for all Israel. 5 “Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the great and awesome day of the LORD comes. 6 And he will turn the hearts of fathers to their children and the hearts of children to their fathers, lest I come and strike the land with a decree of utter destruction.”

Jesus was talking about the law of Moses, not God's law.

"Law of Moses" is short for "The law of God given to the Hebrews through Moses".

That is what you have been told, but the entire works of Paul refute that, as do the other books.

If you do not wish to know this you won't If you do you will look for it and will find it.

SG

And Jesus said:

Matthew 5:17-18, " 17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished.

QUESTION: if Paul tells ou the law is no more and Jesus and the Father say it is still active, who would you choose to believe and follow?

ANSWER: Paul, of course, because he relayed Christ's message after the resurrection.

Jesus and God must be confused then huh?

Well what if Jesus says what is to be followed by those who love Him are "His words while in the flesh" and "the holy Spirit will recall these words"

Because that is what He says here:

John 14:23-26, " 23 Jesus answered him, “If anyone loves me, he will keep my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him. 24 Whoever does not love me does not keep my words. And the word that you hear is not mine but the Father's who sent me. 25 “These things I have spoken to you while I am still with you. 26 But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you.

And Jesus said:

Matthew 5:17-18, " 17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished.

But Paul says the Law is no longer in effect.

Well Jesus also says this in Luke:
Are these Millennial Scriptures?

I see you have your heart set on the things of God and this is something precious in a world that turns its back to Him. I also see you are more a Law lover than a Law keeper. But, ... , let's debate!

You said you don't have to find a perfect animal and have it sacrificed -- you go straight to Christ. If you do that you are at minimum removing a tittle of the Law. Jesus said: "not one yod or a tittle", remember?[/QUOTE

]The law of Moses was until John the Baptist. And, I personally believe that the law of Moses was not in effect while Jesus walked, but that is just my personal opinion, as I have never read it in the bible, and He did nail the ordinances that were against to the cross, so it only works in my head, though for me it stands to reason .
But I am not "under" the law of Moses, no one is, I follow the commands in the New Testament. The ones/commands Jesus died to bring to us, the ones that set us free of the law of Moses. Yet, still not one jot or tittle has come out of the Bible and it remains perfect as God wants it. Just because Jesus didn't destroy it does not mean it is the law for me. It will always be the "information" you need to understand the Gift Jesus gave us, without all of it we would lose something important.
Jesus told us exactly what He was going to do. What does the OT say? It was a shadow of what was to come. It was the school master. Well, that what was going to come, did and then the law was no longer. There was also that whole follow "one" thing, which was rendered impossible because the law says to sacrifice, but Jesus was the last blood sacrifice and it is now an abomination.
Of course I can't think of one right now, but if I read something where God said "this is bad" and I understood why, even if it was a part of the law of Moses ( I know I don't have to follow those law) I still would follow His advice.

I see you have your heart set on the things of God and this is something precious in a world that turns its back to Him. I also see you are more a Law lover than a Law keeper. But, ... , let's debate!

You said you don't have to find a perfect animal and have it sacrificed -- you go straight to Christ. If you do that you are at minimum removing a tittle of the Law. Jesus said: "not one yod or a tittle", remember?

It's easy to tell effective laws from obsolete ones: all O.T. ordinances that are not confirmed in the New Testament are obsolete.

John 5:43, “I have come in My Father's Name, but you do not follow Me. Let another come in his own name; him you will follow.”

John 8:51 “Truly, truly, I say to you, if anyone guards My Word he shall never see death at all.”

John 12:48, “He who rejects Me, and does not follow My words has One Who judges him. The word that I have spoken, the same will be used to judge him in the last day.”

What words, the words Jesus spoke while in the flesh:

John 14:23-26, " 23 Jesus answered him, “If anyone loves me, he will keep my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him. 24 Whoever does not love me does not keep my words. And the word that you hear is not mine but the Father's who sent me. 25 “These things I have spoken to you while I am still with you. 26 But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you."

Why would He spend His entire ministry traning disciples to teach an obselete doctrine?

Acts 1:6-8, " 6 So when they had come together, they asked him, “Lord, will you at this time restore the kingdom to Israel?” 7 He said to them, “It is not for you to know times or seasons that the Father has fixed by his own authority. 8 But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you, and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth.”

But it seems there is a wolf on the prowl, in the morning devouring the prey and at evening dividing the spoil

Genesis 49:27 “Benjamin is a ravenous wolf, in the morning devouring the prey and at evening dividing the spoil.”

so, here you go- classic Hebrew roots lies- Paul contradicts Christ, Paul's writings are not authoritative Scripture....

just lies to point toward law keeping for salvation.