What do you believe about Jesus?
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1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life,[a] and the life was the light of men. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it. John 1
I believe what the Apostle John said about Him
and what Jesus said about Himself:
6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. John 14
I believe what the Apostle John said about Him
and what Jesus said about Himself:
6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. John 14
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Jesus is God manifest in the flesh, fully God, and fully man.
According to His deity He does not have a beginning, which He is from everlasting.
According to His humanity He has a beginning, which He is the beginning of creation, and the firstborn among the creatures, which God calls things that have not happened yet, as thought they already happened, for if it is a plan of God to happen in the future it is the same as if it happened in the beginning, for it will surely come to pass with no hindrance, which the Lamb was slain from the foundation of the world, and all the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
So although the man Christ Jesus was not born until 4000 years after the start of creation He is still considered to be in the beginning.
Which the Word of God is the plan of God to come in the future in flesh, and that plan was with Him before He started creation, and without that plan God would of not created anything that He created, for Jesus is the reason creation is successful, eternal life, and to judge the angels and people.
Many people cannot accept Jesus is God for they say God is bigger than a human image, and they do not accept Him as a being other than that image.
But when the Bible says God was manifest in the flesh it means that God manifest all His attributes to the man Christ Jesus, which He is the fulness of the Godhead bodily, and He has the Spirit without measure, and it pleased the Father that in Him all fulness should dwell.
And the man Christ Jesus the personal human body of God, which He laid down His life for us, and purchased the Church with His own blood.
And the Spirit in Christ is still connected to the omnipresent Spirit of God for He cannot be separated.
Jesus does not have His own personal Spirit that moves around with Him for there cannot be a double portion of the Spirit in one place, and an empty space where the Spirit is not at.
But Jesus moves through the Spirit and wherever He is at the Spirit is there.
Which makes it easier to understand how Jesus can be God, but be God in a visible image, for the Spirit cannot be separated so Jesus is an omnipresent Spirit that showed us a visible image of Himself.
1Ti 6:14 That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:
1Ti 6:15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;
1Ti 6:16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.
No person will ever see Jesus according to Him being God as an invisible Spirit, but we can see a visible image of Jesus, which the throne in heaven is the throne of God and the Lamb, God in the glorified body of the man Christ Jesus.
Which the man Christ Jesus prayed to the Father that the saints could have the same glory that He had in the beginning, which He was not talking about glory as God for the saints could never have that glory, but of receiving a glorified body and having eternal life, which the man Christ Jesus could have that glory in the beginning before He received it for God calls things that have not happened yet, as though they already happened.
And the saints could behold His glory as He sits on the throne in heaven, and God shines out of the glorified body of the man Christ Jesus and lights the New Jerusalem.
According to His deity He does not have a beginning, which He is from everlasting.
According to His humanity He has a beginning, which He is the beginning of creation, and the firstborn among the creatures, which God calls things that have not happened yet, as thought they already happened, for if it is a plan of God to happen in the future it is the same as if it happened in the beginning, for it will surely come to pass with no hindrance, which the Lamb was slain from the foundation of the world, and all the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
So although the man Christ Jesus was not born until 4000 years after the start of creation He is still considered to be in the beginning.
Which the Word of God is the plan of God to come in the future in flesh, and that plan was with Him before He started creation, and without that plan God would of not created anything that He created, for Jesus is the reason creation is successful, eternal life, and to judge the angels and people.
Many people cannot accept Jesus is God for they say God is bigger than a human image, and they do not accept Him as a being other than that image.
But when the Bible says God was manifest in the flesh it means that God manifest all His attributes to the man Christ Jesus, which He is the fulness of the Godhead bodily, and He has the Spirit without measure, and it pleased the Father that in Him all fulness should dwell.
And the man Christ Jesus the personal human body of God, which He laid down His life for us, and purchased the Church with His own blood.
And the Spirit in Christ is still connected to the omnipresent Spirit of God for He cannot be separated.
Jesus does not have His own personal Spirit that moves around with Him for there cannot be a double portion of the Spirit in one place, and an empty space where the Spirit is not at.
But Jesus moves through the Spirit and wherever He is at the Spirit is there.
Which makes it easier to understand how Jesus can be God, but be God in a visible image, for the Spirit cannot be separated so Jesus is an omnipresent Spirit that showed us a visible image of Himself.
1Ti 6:14 That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:
1Ti 6:15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;
1Ti 6:16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.
No person will ever see Jesus according to Him being God as an invisible Spirit, but we can see a visible image of Jesus, which the throne in heaven is the throne of God and the Lamb, God in the glorified body of the man Christ Jesus.
Which the man Christ Jesus prayed to the Father that the saints could have the same glory that He had in the beginning, which He was not talking about glory as God for the saints could never have that glory, but of receiving a glorified body and having eternal life, which the man Christ Jesus could have that glory in the beginning before He received it for God calls things that have not happened yet, as though they already happened.
And the saints could behold His glory as He sits on the throne in heaven, and God shines out of the glorified body of the man Christ Jesus and lights the New Jerusalem.
It is very difficult to understand but all created things (universe- heavens and earth) are a human consciousness. The human consciousness (heavens and earth) was and is part of God until a human looses it (sin).
Ecc 3:9What does the worker gain from his toil? 10I have seen the burden that God has laid on men to occupy them. 11He has made everything beautiful in its time. He has also set eternity in the hearts of men, yet they cannot fathom the work that God has done from beginning to end.
So asking if Jesus or any man was created or not doesn't make much sense.
Ecc 3:9What does the worker gain from his toil? 10I have seen the burden that God has laid on men to occupy them. 11He has made everything beautiful in its time. He has also set eternity in the hearts of men, yet they cannot fathom the work that God has done from beginning to end.
So asking if Jesus or any man was created or not doesn't make much sense.
Revelation 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.
(Question: Who, besides God can be both the Root & Offspring of anything?)
Micah 5:2 Bethlehem, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, ""from everlasting""
(NOTE: Jesus, born in Bethlehem Matt 2:1, 2:5-6 & Jn 7:42. He's called the Lion of the Tribe of Judah Rev 5:5 & Matt 2:5-6. King of the Jews Matt 2:2, Rev 17:14 & 19-16. He's ""from everlasting""! NOT CREATED - HAS NO BEGINING, Heb 7:3, Jn 1:1)
OP question: When was the Son/Second person of the Godhead/Jesus Created?
Answer: NEVER! He was ALWAY's the Son/Second person of the Godhead!
(Question: Who, besides God can be both the Root & Offspring of anything?)
Micah 5:2 Bethlehem, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, ""from everlasting""
(NOTE: Jesus, born in Bethlehem Matt 2:1, 2:5-6 & Jn 7:42. He's called the Lion of the Tribe of Judah Rev 5:5 & Matt 2:5-6. King of the Jews Matt 2:2, Rev 17:14 & 19-16. He's ""from everlasting""! NOT CREATED - HAS NO BEGINING, Heb 7:3, Jn 1:1)
OP question: When was the Son/Second person of the Godhead/Jesus Created?
Answer: NEVER! He was ALWAY's the Son/Second person of the Godhead!
I don't understand this division.
Jesus is both eternal and created. Spiritually Jesus does not have a "birth" and always lived.
Physically Jesus was "created" as in he lived side by side with his creation.
If he wasn't created he couldn't have been crusified. Likewise if he wasn't eternal & holy he wouldn't still be alive now. Both of these were required for salvation.
Jesus is both eternal and created. Spiritually Jesus does not have a "birth" and always lived.
Physically Jesus was "created" as in he lived side by side with his creation.
If he wasn't created he couldn't have been crusified. Likewise if he wasn't eternal & holy he wouldn't still be alive now. Both of these were required for salvation.
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No just didn't think to...lol....
I believe Jesus is the Second person of the Godhead, He is God Himself who as a human, Mary was overpowered / surrounded by the Holy Spirit when God went woosh into her womb, so He IS NOT CONCEIVED/CREATED!!! I do not know how the Father saw still in heaven doing His god thing and here on Earth doing His Messiah thing; but I believe I do not need to understand HE IS GOD!!! I believe He is the final sacrificial Lamb, fulfiller of the Law, Who died on the cross, for ALL MAN'S SINS (everyone ever born) and ALL who call upon the Name of the Lord (Jesus) and by faith believe in Him will not perish but have everlasting life. I believe He physically... all the way died like all of us humans do. He was buried for 3 days arose from the dead. He is the Firstfruits because even though others have risen from the dead (like Lazarus) He has NEVER died again. He is the RISEN LIVING SAVIOR.... sitting at the Right Hand of God, after He ascended into heaven. and He will return; the dead in Messiah will rise from the dead first, the living will then meet Him in the sky.... He holds the keys the heaven and hell... He will hold 2 judgements, first the Great White Throne Judgement, if name is not in Book of Life, person is cast into hell. And the Judgement Seat of Messiah, where He judges all of us Christians for our works. Then He reigns for 1,000 (not sure what all happens) but He will then cast satan into the bottomless pit along with his demons) and we all live happily for eternity with God the Father, God the Son (Messiah) and God the Holy Spirit.... One God expressed in three persons.... don't logically/ fully understand but He is God so I believe His WORD!!!!
This is my belief about Jesus....
Thank you for asking....
I believe Jesus is the Second person of the Godhead, He is God Himself who as a human, Mary was overpowered / surrounded by the Holy Spirit when God went woosh into her womb, so He IS NOT CONCEIVED/CREATED!!! I do not know how the Father saw still in heaven doing His god thing and here on Earth doing His Messiah thing; but I believe I do not need to understand HE IS GOD!!! I believe He is the final sacrificial Lamb, fulfiller of the Law, Who died on the cross, for ALL MAN'S SINS (everyone ever born) and ALL who call upon the Name of the Lord (Jesus) and by faith believe in Him will not perish but have everlasting life. I believe He physically... all the way died like all of us humans do. He was buried for 3 days arose from the dead. He is the Firstfruits because even though others have risen from the dead (like Lazarus) He has NEVER died again. He is the RISEN LIVING SAVIOR.... sitting at the Right Hand of God, after He ascended into heaven. and He will return; the dead in Messiah will rise from the dead first, the living will then meet Him in the sky.... He holds the keys the heaven and hell... He will hold 2 judgements, first the Great White Throne Judgement, if name is not in Book of Life, person is cast into hell. And the Judgement Seat of Messiah, where He judges all of us Christians for our works. Then He reigns for 1,000 (not sure what all happens) but He will then cast satan into the bottomless pit along with his demons) and we all live happily for eternity with God the Father, God the Son (Messiah) and God the Holy Spirit.... One God expressed in three persons.... don't logically/ fully understand but He is God so I believe His WORD!!!!
This is my belief about Jesus....
Thank you for asking....
I believe this:
Deuteronomy 18:18-19, " 18 I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brothers. And I will put my words in his mouth, and he shall speak to them all that I command him. 19 And whoever will not listen to my words that he shall speak in my name, I myself will require it of him.
Acts 3:19-23, " 19 Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out, 20 that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord, and that he may send the Christ appointed for you, Jesus, 21 whom heaven must receive until the time for restoring all the things about which God spoke by the mouth of his holy prophets long ago. 22 Moses said, ‘The Lord God will raise up for you a prophet like me from your brothers. You shall listen to him in whatever he tells you. 23 And it shall be that every soul who does not listen to that prophet shall be destroyed from the people.’
Deuteronomy 18:18-19, " 18 I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brothers. And I will put my words in his mouth, and he shall speak to them all that I command him. 19 And whoever will not listen to my words that he shall speak in my name, I myself will require it of him.
Acts 3:19-23, " 19 Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out, 20 that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord, and that he may send the Christ appointed for you, Jesus, 21 whom heaven must receive until the time for restoring all the things about which God spoke by the mouth of his holy prophets long ago. 22 Moses said, ‘The Lord God will raise up for you a prophet like me from your brothers. You shall listen to him in whatever he tells you. 23 And it shall be that every soul who does not listen to that prophet shall be destroyed from the people.’
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