Who is voting for Trump again?

You’re grasping at straws here Magenta. I'm pretty sure you know that. The funny thing is, after seeing your politics for a half dozen yrs, you are very close to what I believe, but have felt the need to constantly back a certain gentleman. (understandable, and admirable)

You also like to slice and dice a person's post to obfuscate the main point. So let's slice and dice.


A - I meant Those who vote Democrat ACTUALLY perform the torture, dismemberment, and death of the unborn child through abortion themselves.

B - I meant those who vote Democrat SUPPORT, and EMPOWER those who enact Laws, and appoint judges, that make it more easier and legal to torture, dismember, and kill unborn children.


Which one do you think I meant? A or B?

I have not been here for half a dozen years. Your dishonesty is disheartening.

"Locoponydirtman, post: 4032204, member: 275951"]Ha, you're funny. You got jokes.

I'm going to be in your town this morning. I have a meeting at UTMB at 7:00am.

just because I have a disagreement with somebody does not mean that I hold a grudge against them. We are all Christians, and thus like that song from the 70s, " We are family."
And yes I hold to that idea, Sister.

I have one vested interest and that is the truth, and Seven, is right on this one.

Anyway Seven has sand, don't you find that admirable, even when you do disagree?
yeah

sums up pretty much my take on how I view it

I don't hold a grudge either...which is why I responded as I did

besides, Europe has decided Google cannot keep old things about a person that a person wishes would disappear

the constitution here does not allow it. go figure

Your statement was in fact intellectually dishonest. You're doubling down on it and defending is intentionally dishonest.

A 1973 SUPREME COURT DECISION, ROE V WADE, LEGALIZED ABORTION BY A 7-2 VOTE. SIX OF THE SEVEN JUDGES IN THE MAJORITY VOTE WERE REPUBLICAN APPOINTEES. THE ONLY DEMOCRAT APPOINTEE, BYRON WHITE, VOTED AGAINST ROE V WADE.
ps signed in to law by Pres Jimmy Carter Pres Ronald Reagan

A 1973 SUPREME COURT DECISION, ROE V WADE, LEGALIZED ABORTION BY A 7-2 VOTE. SIX OF THE SEVEN JUDGES IN THE MAJORITY VOTE WERE REPUBLICAN APPOINTEES. THE ONLY DEMOCRAT APPOINTEE, BYRON WHITE, VOTED AGAINST ROE V WADE.
ps signed in to law by Pres Jimmy Carter Pres Ronald Reagan

and here is the post from PennEd (I am sure he won't mind since) that was below mine. also, in response to your pre-coffee posts

You are smarter than this, to ask these silly questions. You are now against Trump because he actually did what he said he was going to do and unashamedly support Israel and move the US embassy there. You may be able to pick a policy here or there, but you support almost all of what he has done. From tax cuts to immigration to Supreme court nominations and on and on.
It's the ISRAEL issue that you chose to try and bash him on with a garbage article about Jews and Israel. If you were one of the many ignorant lemmings I could say, so what, but you are not. You are highly intelligent and informed. So what am I left with? I S R A E L!
With your replacement theology, and the available info, it doesn't take a rocket scientists to figure out your beef with him.

Now, it is almost laughable for you to say he hasn't had a MAJOR impact on saving human babies. Read this list, and understand the FIRST act as President, while Obama's stench was still in the air, was re-enact the ban on funding for foreign abortions:

✅ Appointed Pro-Life Judges
During the 2016 campaign, then-candidate Trump promised he would nominate pro-life justices to the U.S. Supreme Court. In the final presidential debate, Trump stated, “I am pro-life, and I will be appointing pro-life judges.” President Trump has already made significant progress on this commitment to the Pro-Life Movement. In April, 2017, Judge Neil Gorsuch was successfully confirmed to the U.S. Supreme Court. And in October, 2018, Judge Brett Kavanaugh was successfully confirmed to the U.S. Supreme Court. To date, 144 of President Trump’s judicial nominees have been confirmed, including two Supreme Court justices, forty-three U.S. Courts of Appeals judges, and ninety-nine District Court judges.
✅ Permitted States to Defund Planned Parenthood of Title X Funds
In April 2017, Congress sent a bill to President Trump’s desk that permits states to defund Planned Parenthood of Title X family planning funds passed in Congress. President Trump signed the bill which reverses an Obama-era rule that disbarred states from doing so. Because this was passed using the Congressional Review Act, future Administrations cannot enact a similar rule to Obama’s.
✅ Stopped Tax Dollars Funding Abortion Overseas
President Trump not only reinstated the Mexico City Policy, but expanded it to the new Protecting Life in Global Health Assistance program. This new policy ensures that our tax dollars are protected from funding the abortion industry overseas across ALL global health spending, not just family planning dollars. The Bush-era Mexico City Policy protected roughly $500 million in spending – the new Trump policy protects over $8.8 billion overseas aid from funding abortion.
✅ Defunded the Pro-Abortion UNFPA
The UNFPA has long been complicit in China’s oppressive population control activities, including birth limitation policies and forced abortions. President Trump’s State Department cut U.S. Taxpayer funding to the UNFPA.
✅ Required Health Insurance Companies to Disclose if Plans Cover Abortion
The Trump Administration Department of Health & Human Services (HHS) issued a rule requiring that insurers specify in each plan Summary of Benefits whether the plan covers abortion. The administration also requested input on how to better enforce the limited abortion provisions contained in Obamacare. Until Obamacare is overturned and replaced with a system that does not subsidize abortion coverage, insurers must make abortion coverage clear to persons shopping for a plan.
✅ Settlements & New Rule Regarding HHS Mandate
The Departments of HHS, Treasury, and Labor issued two interim final rules, which means they took effect immediately, while allowing a comment period, that provide permanent, enforceable relief from the previous HHS mandate for both religious objectors, such as Little Sisters of the Poor, and moral objectors, such as Susan B. Anthony List. The new rule also exempts private employers and educational institutions that have sincerely held religious beliefs or moral objections against providing contraceptives or abortifacient drugs.
✅ Strong Pro-Life Appointments to Key Positions Including:
Vice President Mike Pence, Counselor to the President Kellyanne Conway, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo.
✅ New Office for Conscience Protection at HHS
In May 2019, the Trump administration finalized new regulations to strengthen enforcement of federal laws protecting the conscience rights of health care workers who do not want to participate in abortion. The regulations clarify what recourse is available to victims of discrimination under the law and what penalties the HHS Office of Civil Rights may enforce for violations. Additionally, in January 2018, the Department of Health & Human Services announced the creation of the Conscience and Religious Freedom Division within the Office for Civil Rights. This new office works to protect health care professionals who do not want to participate in abortion. In May, 2019, HHS issued a proposed rule amending Obama-era regulations, clarifying that Section 1557 shall not force a recipient of federal funding to provide or pay for an abortion. It shall also be consistent with the First Amendment and with pro-life provisions, conscience provisions and religious liberty protections in current law.
✅ Allowed States to Defund Planned Parenthood of Medicaid Funds
The Obama administration attempted to prevent states from defunding Planned Parenthood of Medicaid dollars, issuing guidance claiming this may be a violation of federal law. In January 2018, the Trump administration rescinded this guidance, allowing states to defund Planned Parenthood of Medicaid dollars as they see fit.
✅ Cut Planned Parenthood’s Tax Funding by up to $60 Million
In February, 2019, the Trump administration finalized the Protect Life Rule to redirect Title X family planning program funds away from the abortion industry. The rule advances President Trump’s promise to stop taxpayer funding of abortion businesses like Planned Parenthood, who will no longer receive Title X funding if they choose not to comply.
✅ Canceled Huge Contract for Taxpayer-Funded Experimentation with Body Parts of Aborted Babies
In June, 2019, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) and National Institutes of Health (NIH) announced they would not renew a major contract with the University of California, San Francisco (UCSF) to fund research using the body parts of aborted babies. (learn more)

Being Republican does not make you conservative I used Dwight Eisenhower as an example but you refuse to acknowledge that just because a person wears a name brand, they do not necessarily hold to the values.
I used the Dwight Eisenhower as an example because he is the Republican that appointed the supreme Court Justice that wrote the ruling.
It's also dishonest to compare the parties today as they stand to the parties as they stood in 1973, 46 years ago.
Your particular type of rhetoric that you are engaged in is called ad hominem, and it's a lazy dishonest unintelligent debate form.

And Ronald Reagan wasn't president until 1980.

Ha, you're funny. You got jokes.

I'm going to be in your town this morning. I have a meeting at UTMB at 7:00am.

just because I have a disagreement with somebody does not mean that I hold a grudge against them. We are all Christians, and thus like that song from the 70s, " We are family."
And yes I hold to that idea, Sister.

I have one vested interest and that is the truth, and Seven, is right on this one.

Anyway Seven has sand, don't you find that admirable, even when you do disagree?

Cannot believe I am in accord with something Europe has done!

I did not see this post til after I posted the same thing!

Being Republican does not make you conservative I used Dwight Eisenhower as an example but you refuse to acknowledge that just because a person wears a name brand, they do not necessarily hold to the values.
I used the Dwight Eisenhower as an example because he is the Republican that appointed the supreme Court Justice that wrote the ruling.
It's also dishonest to compare the parties today as they stand to the parties as they stood in 1973, 46 years ago.
Your particular type of rhetoric that you are engaged in is called ad hominem, and it's a lazy dishonest unintelligent debate form.

And Ronald Reagan wasn't president until 1980.

The law was signed by Nixon, 1973

Having said that, there was nothing he could do to prevent the decision.

Oh yes, it was Pres Nixon who was in office then. Actually your performing ad hominem by suggesting I am dishonest for quoting the news that Roe v Wade was voted in by basically the Republican side. That's the simple truth and it's not Christian to deny the truth.

A Supreme Court decision was signed into law by a president? Interesting. 🤔

The word is approved by. He could have vetoed it. The medical industry is a major contributor to the congress and both parties. Abortion was a profitable business. They figured out that delivering babies makes more money than aborting them so they changed their stance. That's all.

The DNC is pandering to the liberal supporters though. If they didn't oppose the RNC they'd lose money. It isn't rocket science. It's called greed.

right

you are not alone on that one!

I post zero zilch and nothing I would not care if the entire world found out about anywhere on the net

I'm pretty sure Richard Nixon didn't sign any abortion law. The horrendous decision was rendered, and the dreaded practice became legal.

Nixon DID have a position on abortion however, saying that they may be necessary in some circumstances like rape.