Pentecostals and others claiming "second experiences"

Paul was actually REFUTING the concept of prayer language right here. What it means when paraphrased is that "If I pray with my spirit, I must also pray with my mind, and if I sing psalms with my spirit, I must also sing psalms with my mind". In other words worship must engage BOTH the mind and the spirit. I rest my case.

God is able to show each and every Christian as to which spiritual gifts have been given to him or her. Then the believer is required to exercise those gifts for the edification of others by faith (see Romans 12 and 1 Corinthians 12-14).

Too many churches neglect to encourage their members to exercise their gifts, (a) sometimes by not even teaching about the whole range of gifts, (b) sometimes by falsely teaching that everyone must speak in tongues, and (c) sometimes by focusing exclusively on tongues and healing to the detriment of everything else. This should be called *skewed Christianity*.

Thank you. Maybe I will pray about it then.

There are only nine gifts of the Holy Spirit listed in scripture just as there are nine components to the fruit of the Holy Spirit.

4 Now there are varieties of gifts, but the same Spirit;
5 and there are varieties of service, but the same Lord;
6 and there are varieties of activities, but it is the same God who empowers them all in everyone.
7 To each is given the manifestation of the Spirit for the common good.
8 For to one is given through the Spirit the utterance of wisdom, and to another the utterance of knowledge according to the
same Spirit,
9 to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by the one Spirit,
10 to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another the ability to distinguish between spirits, to another
various kinds of tongues, to another the interpretation of tongues.
11 All these are empowered by one and the same Spirit, who apportions to each one individually as he wills.
1Corinthians 12: (ESV)
These gifts are distributed to the members of the Spirit-filled church for the building up (strengthening), encouragement and
comfort of the body of Christ.
These gifts are poured out on a needs basis you might say. Thus I have enjoyed making use of faith, healing and working of miracles
when I either lay hands on somebody for their healing or if I am praying for them from afar.
But I have never exercised the voice gifts of speaking in an unknown tongue, interpretation or prophecy.
Although, I like all other Pentecostal saints do pray in tongues this is quite separate and different to the voice gifts that operate
in a church meeting.

I apologize Cherie for not answering. Had to take my dogs out so I just now see your question.

At Pentecost in Acts there was two gifts stated that manifested in those who were of the 120 and that was tongues and prophecy. These are voice gifts along with word of wisdom and knowledge. These come by unction. I don’t know if all experience these the same but for me, with prophecy, I hear words, a phrase, or even a scripture and I step out when the unction is there. I feel the power and the message wells up within me and I speak. Or when by myself, I write.

Knowledge and wisdom is receiving truth for a question. This is how it works for me. It may be different for another, but it’s knowledge, wisdom imparted on behalf of others.

The other gifts are action gifts. Healing, I will see a body part. Or a problem in a persons body. Only have had this happen a few times.

It’s the work of Holy Spirit.

Nehemiah you didn’t start with the preceding verse. Why did you leave it off?

1Co 14:14 For if I pray in another language, my spirit prays but my mind is not productive. Then Paul says, what does this mean? Mind not productive. It means just that. It’s beneficial for the Spiritual Man, but not for the soul or the natural man. So Paul says he does both. And to ask for the interpretation.

Part of the foolish things of God that the natural man cannot understand nor accept.

1 Cor 14:8 For if the trumpet give an uncertain sound, who shall prepare himself to the battle?
9 So likewise ye, except ye utter by the tongue words easy to be understood, how shall it be known what is spoken? for ye shall speak into the air.

Keep things in context and you will not err. Jesus did not speak in an unknown language on the cross.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

If you understood Mark 16 you would not make some many errors. The new tongues are the tongues of those who are born again the true witnesses for the risen Christ. Tongues that at one time were filled with cursing and bitterness toward Christ now praise and glorify Him.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

Your ignorance and gobbledegook never ceases to amuse me.
This is the nonsense of a person who has no knowledge nor experience of baptism of the Holy Spirit or Pentecost.
Complete drivel as usual.

According to strongs, it was ancient Chaldean. It had to be interpreted so was unknown. I differ with you Roger. But, that’s nothing new.

Your error here Roger is that the change in man is the new creation. Tongues is the language of the Spiritual Man, no longer soulish.

In which case 100% of all the children of God should be speaking in tongues. Since that is not the case, you might need to revise your theology.

I agree. We all should be. And can if you ask. Keep on knocking.

It’s a mighty weapon!

Plus...you just said what I’ve been touching on. Theology.

Presence!

Not the same context as you fabricate for your tongues. Again you have no sound doctrine to share.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

No? I have Jesus and Holy Spirit, my teacher. And Father who planned this from the beginning.

You make this about intellect Roger. I hope that changes some day.

Nonsense as usual. Your lack of biblical discipleship is evident. Get into a good bible believing church and grow.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

So you suggest that biblical wisdom is apart from intellect? Please try to thjnk about what you are saying. It appears that you have neglected your study of Gods word.

The Holy Spirit is not teaching you things that are not in the word of God. You are far more mystic than biblical Christian.

For the cause of Chrst
Roger

Mystic? Thank you. 😉

Eastern new age mystic.

For the cause of Christ
Roger