The Irreducible Complex System (Psa. 77:13)

Why do I get the sneaking suspicion that this is gonna end up as a complex irreductible WORKS DOCTRINE?

It is no different

The high priest once a year made atonement for Israel. When he came out, Isreal was justified (symbolically, not in reality)

You must also remember, The high priest jesus became was in the order of melchisidech, not Levi, The levitical priesthood was not able to accomplish what Jesus did.

Calvary was not in the courtyard.


You miss the whole picture of the day of atonment.

Not hardly pal....the VERSES I quoted disproves what you are peddling.....try to read it again SLOWLY.....

The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing which is a symbol for the present time. Accordingly both gifts and sacrifices are offered which cannot make the worshiper perfect in conscience, But when Christ appeared as a high priest of the good things to come, He entered through the greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this creation; and not through the blood of goats and calves, but through His own blood, He entered the holy place once for all, having obtained eternal redemption.

No. Read in context:

Heb_10:10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

Sacrifice is no longer needful, since it was fulfilled in Christ Jesus, even as Daniel state:

Dan_9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Heb_10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

Do not confuse the work of the priest/sacrifice, with the work of the High Priest/ministration of the sacrifice.

Jesus "obtained" it. He has it.

Matt 27:
50 And Jesus cried out again with a loud voice, and yielded up His spirit.
51 Then, behold, the veil of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom; and the earth quaked, and the rocks were split

The first tabernacle was no longer functional.. Jesus took its place..it all occurred the momeent he died.. Having made perfect that which was lost.

You are straying further and further out in left field.

The Daniel passage has NOTHING to do with CHRIST'S atonement! This is a passage about the anti-christ.

Calvary is the Altar of Burnt Offering, the courtyard is Earth itself (having 4 corners, NEWS (not literally a square)).

I do not miss anything with the Day of Atonement. See Daniel 8:13-14,26; Revelation 9:13-15, 10:6, 11:1, 14:6-7.

The Day of Atonement is not at Calvary. That was Passover, which had to take place before Pentecost (Acts 2). Day of Atonement could only come after "5 months" (Rev. 9:5,6,10), after Trumpets and just before Tabernacles.

Dan 9: 27 has nothign to do with Christs death

Heb 10 speaks of rejecting the gospel. And continuing to sin willfully.. They reject the cross. Meaning there is no more sacrifice. Because no sacrific e anyone offers can pay for sin.. There is only one.

Listen.....you are ALL over the place and conflating numerous truths into a big quagmire of confusion.....

The work of JESUS concerning the redemption of MAN, which includes being saved, justified, sanctified and glorified is a DONE deal before the throne....HE ENTERED HEAVEN before the THRONE and OFFERED his BLOOD on the MERCY SEAT having OBTAINED eternal REDEMPTION for MAN.......HE does NOT stand OFFERING his BLOOD OVER And OVER and OVER again.....

To be honest....YOU are MISSING the forest due to the trees.....and what you are peddling is false..........end of story!

Calvary is the inner sanctum, where jesus poured out his blood on the mercy seat.

The day of atonement IS calvary, in fact, It fell on the day the high priest was making the atoneing sacrifice.

I noticed in your presentation you changed the word "atonement" to mean "at-one-ment." Where did you steal this idea from? The word atonement was used by Mary Baker Eddy the founder of the cult Christian Science. Atonemnent simply means in a theological sense, "reparation or expiation for sin" which is what Jesus Christ did on that cross. The following is how Mary Baker Eddy uses this so called word.

At-one-ment means “oneness with God.” Thus, if one is “at one” with God, how can there be sin, for there is no sin in God?

Forgiveness of sin means destroying sin–ridding oneself of sin. Ridding oneself of sin is the process, atonement is the effects of that process. Simply asking God to forgive one of sins is not a process, it is a petition, a request or a desire for something. Having a desire for something is only the first stage–one-eighth of seven-eighths."

And here is how she uses the word.

“Atonement is the exemplification of man’s unity with God, whereby man reflects Truth, L

ife and Love“(Science and Health with Key to the Scriptures, p. 22). These are the words of the Discover of Christian Science, Mary Baker Eddy. What does she mean by that statement? How does it affect man’s understanding of his ability to overcome sin, sickness and death?"

IN GOD THE SON,
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It is looking that way hey........my bible is clear...he does not need to enter some imaginary place again to offer his blood.....that is a done deal and he has already obtained ETERNAL redemption for us.......and I can tell this guy is open to nothing other than that which is hammered out on his own anvil.....even though we are pointing out the obvious contradictions.........

Um, there is not a single scripture that says that. The real Ark of the Covenant is and was even then, in Heaven:

Heb 8:1 Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens;

Heb 8:2 A minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man.

Heb_8:5 Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.

Rev 11:19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.

Rev 15:5 And after that I looked, and, behold, the temple of the tabernacle of the testimony in heaven was opened:

The copy of the ark on earth was buried in the days of Jeremiah, and hasn't been seen since.

The Ark of the Covenant and High Priest is required on the Day of Atonement, neither of which were at Calvary.

Passover doesn't require the Ark, nor Mercy Seat.

Also, one is fall (Atonement) and the other spring (Passover) feast.

While it is the understanding of some that the earth is flat it is debatable whether or not the actual configuration is square seeing how no one has every ventured to the edge to map it out.

Redemption and JUSTIFICATION requires the ark and mercy seat.

And passover required the sacrifice of the lamb.

As hebrews said, without the shedding of blood there can be no forgiveness..

NO ONE is justified apart from blood
NO ONE is sanctified apart from blood
NO ONE is glorified apart from blood

Because apart from blood. We are still dead in our sin.

Your missing the hole concept of the law as it relates to our sin and what is required for forgiveness.

Can you be cut off in the Day of Atonement?

This thread is about the first Picture, the Irreducible Complex System of the Plan of Redemption as it is in the Sanctuary of God. All parts are required to be in at-one-ment, to remove any one, the whole ceases to function, no longer being in at-one-ment and the Plan of Redemption cannot work.

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The Bible informs us of shadows of the good thing to come...no seen (the faith principle, law of faith )

They are mere shadows...the spiritual substance not seen

If we remove the part that they are merely shadows of the things to come.. . . then what?

For instance why was book of the law (the Bible) placed on the side or the Ark and not inside other than it is a sign against us?

Deuteronomy 31:26 Take this "book of the law", and put it in the side of the ark of the covenant of the Lord your God, that it may be there for a witness against thee.

Sounds like someone is worshipping shadows as ceremonial laws ? Following a law of the Rabbis. . . rather than walking by faith (the unseen, eternal. . . . not seen)