Did Jesus ever tell us that we no longer need to keep the law of Moses?

Isn't that amazing! That's a lot of laws! The torah deals with mold removal too. Is that why you mentioned it?

When Jesus mentioned how His yoke was easy and burden light, our legal system makes the Torah a breeze, simplified yet again with the entire Torah summed up in the two greatest commandments!

Greetings Karraster,

What were you referring to in this post?

Thank You

SG

Oh, sorry that would be EG.

Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Matthew 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Matthew 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Matthew 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
Matthew 5:21 Ye have heard that it was said of them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:
Matthew 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
Matthew 5:23 Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee;
Matthew 5:24 Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.
Matthew 5:25 Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison.
Matthew 5:26 Verily I say unto thee, Thou shalt by no means come out thence, till thou hast paid the uttermost farthing.
Matthew 5:27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
Matthew 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
Matthew 5:29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
Matthew 5:30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
Matthew 5:31 It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement:
Matthew 5:32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.
Matthew 5:33 Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths:
Matthew 5:34 But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne:
Matthew 5:35 Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King.
Matthew 5:36 Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black.
Matthew 5:37 But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.
Matthew 5:38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:
Matthew 5:39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
Matthew 5:40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also.
Matthew 5:41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.
Matthew 5:42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.
Matthew 5:43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
Matthew 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
Matthew 5:45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven:for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
Matthew 5:46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
Matthew 5:47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?
Matthew 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

Matthew 6:1 Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.
Matthew 6:2 Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

Lol..

Come to me when you really want to discuss the word ok?

Yeah he does make it easy

Stop trying to follow the law. And instead follow him, by taking the love he gives you and share tha love and be empowered by it

Or continue to put yourself under law. And continue to fail. And give up. Or lie to yourself that you are following it.

You can try considering that maybe...perhaps...you've got a misunderstanding about what Paul, Moses, and James have been talking about all this time. Is such possible?

What is Righteousness as defined throughout the entirety of the scriptures from "old" to "new", EG?

Great post I'm so glad you said this about the "list" and that it is according to the individual. I read sources that say there are 613 or so, but have not gone thru the books to count them. For the sake of communicating I'll use that list and right away I see much of it pertains to the temple sacrifices. There are those who relate to the priests, to judges/ people in authority, for married men, so on. I am a married woman, a grandma/ great grandma, no livestock or crops. There is not a lot of commands for me. Some of these instructions are antiquated as we now have indoor plumbing etc. I just don't see what is so hard about them, they are beautiful and courteous instructions designed to cause us to have a better life. Imagine not having to lock your doors because no one steals, kills, does harm? I do remember when I was a little girl, we didn't lock our doors. It was out in the country, nothing bad ever happened around us back then it was so nice. When our Messiah comes back He will rule with an iron rod! Every one will bend the knee. I consider what we do here in this life is practice.

Another thing, when Yahshua walked the earth He kept the commands perfectly, didn't He? Yet, we know He did not do the ones for the Levite priests, judges, women, etc. When we uphold what pertains to us, we uphold them all it seems.

Looked at it

Prayed

Saw right through it and its flaws.

It is error.

Let's discuss it now. I posted a passage word for word and nothing else and yet you've claimed I'm judging. Prior to this you accused another member of pridefully slandering you when they were posting a reply directly to me, not mentioning you once by name. You even suggested the moderator need to review their posts, when you've talked about me and others directly. You seem to have a lot of guilt you're trying to project onto others and it tells me you're struggling with the truth of what the scriptures are saying over your beliefs.




Elder Peter, one of the original twelve, warns his audience to be on guard against the error of thinking Paul is teaching to be lawless. That's what he said and there's no way around it. Your belief is against both Peter and Paul.

Are you saying The FRUIT OF THE SPIRIT IS IN ERROR? Did you read and really pray?

The fruit of the spirit is the fruit of the spirit

What the lawyer said about that passage was in error.

We are to BARE the fruit of the Spirit!

Yes we are, and when we do, We will not break the law..and for this reason, There is no law against it.

We do NOT live under the law,we live under grace!

I have been discussing so many passages,

You will not listen,, or even try to discuss, you think your right, and thats it and get mad every time I resist

Like I said, when yoru ready to DISCUSS, come to me, I will be glad.

Thats not what the people I have been talking with are saying though.

The reason we spend hours and hours of our time to set free our brothers and sister in Christ. We hate to see them in bondage to something that can't bind. To be freed from the fear of the law. A law that leads us to God, easily, set free, because the law is good for our souls and spirit and our walk and carries no penalty of death (as long as you don't mock God) and makes you more like Christ because those are the rules He also plays by. It makes you understand what was done for us. You can love that glorious law because it will NEVER will lead you astray of God. It will direct your feet. It will give you "adda boys". It assures you your path is the right path. It is full of love from God, so much does God want us to follow it He sent His son to die, so we could be forgiven in it.
And I now do this disclaimer so that anyone who is reading this will not think that I believe that God did not give us the Gift of Salvation something I can not buy or work for)

Thanks, DeighAnn, for helping me prove my point. The purpose of this thread is to test my point of view about the ministry of the Lord Jesus on Earth. I believe that Jesus mostly preached the law of Moses to the Jews and used Paul as a spokesman, after the resurrection, to preach to the Gentiles. In most (if not all) of the verses you posted Jesus is expounding the Law.

As I said, I'm TESTING my point of view and that means I'm open to different opinions. My intention is to learn; not to talk anyone into following me.

Dear Marcelo,

As long as a man follows another man, it is as the blind leading the blind." Religions are all mens rules on how to beleive, behave, shun, accept. This is exactly what Jesus liberated us from. If you request a list then you once again put yourself under a mans rules rather than Gods Holy Spirit.

You're confusing the Law with the Lord Jesus Christ.

This happens a lot with legalists and judaizers.

John 15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

Galatians 3:21 Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.

Matthew 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

Romans 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

Galatians 3:3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?


Your understanding and work at the law makes you more like Christ? I bet a lot of legalists think that.

Don't you think God could do a better job at making you more like Christ than you or your 'understanding' of the law?

I'm not sure what more you want me to do to discuss with you than to reply to your posts. You have my full attention. I'm here engaging you right now trying to discuss but you seem to be disengaging me. There's nothing in my post that suggests what I'm feeling and yet you seem to know. That's called projection. Let's stop the projection and talk then.

You say stop trying to follow the law.

Peter says thinking that is being in error.

And if anyone knows Paul better than we do, it would be Peter.

Let's discuss.

That's not what Peter says. That's your wrong interpretation of what Peter says.

Peter says to not be led away with the error of the wicked. Or the error of the lawless, which is the same thing.

The solution for that is NOT working at the law in your own understanding.

The solution Peter gives is to Grow in Grace and in the Knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ.