Not By Works

You still do not get it

You will never be “accepted”. No one will, all have are sinning and fall short

Jesus is accepted. And his death is your only hope. You live why? Because he lives. You have passed from death to life based on his work, not yours.

Its called eternal life

We have it

You are working to earn it (conditional life)

I pray you find it

People have not explained OSAS very well, so I will add the caveat like this: "Provided the believer does not turn away from God of their own free will OSAS is true."

You turn from people who you got close to and you trusted because they came to you and offered you something you desired, who you learn continually fail you. Not because they fail you once or twice. But they show a habit of doing things which are not in your best interest, and when you do what they ask, it always turns into a nightmare.

So if God, who always has our best. Interest at heart. And whenever we do what he asks, we are ALWAYS blessed. And continued to prove faithfull, as he promised, WHY WOULD ANYONE TURN FROM HIM?

I am sorry. If you can not see this, I can only guess you have never experienced it. Because if you had, you would never ask such a question

That is why I posted before that they never show any joy , only fear , they do not realise what they are missing , and that is something to be sad about...

The fruit of the Spirit is Joy , where is it in them , they seem so bent on digging deeper into sadness , they must live in fear , missing out on the promises our LORD has given us...xox...

If they had true joy, instead of judging others, they would be serving them.

Its a false joy, based on a false hope.

What do you mean by joy?

I was previously in a discussion with someone who attends the church of Christ (but can't find the specific post at this time) who made this statement to me: "It is works of obedience that help to save us and not works of the law or works of merit."

I was also previously in a discussion with a Roman Catholic (but can't find the specific post at this time) and I clarified to him that we are saved by grace through faith, not works and the Roman Catholic responded by saying, "I know that." Then after we discussed it a little deeper, it turns out the Roman Catholic misinterpreted Ephesians 2:8,9 as such: Saved by grace through faith "infused" with works, just not by specific works of the law. Saved through faith + "these" works (good works) just not "those" works (merely limited, specific works of the law) is not what Paul was saying. Paul meant works in general. (Romans 4:5-6; Titus 3:5; 2 Timothy 1:9)

I discovered the ROOT of the problem of the Roman Catholic misinterpretation. That Roman Catholic also made this statement:

We ARE saved by faith - as long as you properly define "Faith". Faith is NOT simply "believing". Faith INCLUDES: Being baptized, eating His body and drinking His blood/partaking the Lord's Supper during Mass, works of mercy and charity, obeying his commandments, doing the will of the Father etc..

His argument about faith being "defined as" and INCLUDES these works above is just sugar coated double talk and equates to salvation through faith (his version of faith) + works. At first this Roman Catholic claimed that the Roman Catholic church did not teach salvation by works, then afterwards, contradicted himself by saying that we are saved by accomplishing this check list of works above.

What I see is you trying to undermine John 6:40 in connection with Matthew 7:21.

The Joy of the LORD is our strength , what He has done for us , what He continues to do for us day by day...
The Joy of our LORD is not by or comes from ourselves , it comes from God , even when our faith is weak , He is our Joy ...
We are Gods workmanship through His power...

You also didn`t answer my question to you from another post...
Why does God give us each morning fresh grace & mercy ?...xox...

If you did reply , then please excuse me for missing your answer...

The will of the Father is to BELIEVE on the one whom he sent...NOT embellish said belief with religious hoop jumping, works and or some idiotic ability to lose that which is eternally given....!!

Sincere faith that saves continues and is not merely a past moment of temporary belief.

That right there is your problem and why you peddle a losable salvation maintained by your own self effort....

JOHN said these things are written that YOU MAY KNOW.....NOT that that we CANNOT SEE or KNOW that we are saved....

GEESH man......you need to trust JESUS and understand that YOU CAN KNOW.......!!!!!!!

FALSE.....GOD says those that BELIEVE......get that through your head............

It pleased GOD by the foolishness of preaching to save them that BELIEVE <------your embellishment wit OBEY = false!!!!

Exactly....those that add works to faith for <----JESUS does not know them because they trusted a gospel of a different kind with no power to save...fools and bewitched is exactly how Paul describes them......

Such simple truth.....those that say it can be lost are absolutely BLIND to these truths you are posting.....

Not only is he embarrassing himself with how little he knows about our belief, but rather more importantly how little he knows/understands of the word of GOD

Nothing to see here............just bloviated opinion.........

This goes to the heart of the problem....they cannot grasp that when the Father looks at us he SEES us through the BLOOD and RIGHTEOUSNESS of JESUS and this is why we are eternally secure..........OUR guilt, sin and condemnation under the law was PLACED upon CHRIST and HIS righteousness was IMPUTED to our ACCOUNT and our DEBT was SATISFIED under the law.....

THIS right here is the truth and ALL workers for and salvation losers DENY these truths..........

FALSE.........we have been BOUGHT and PAID FOR...we are NO LONGER our own.....YOUR VIEW absolutely denigrates and devalues JESUS and his work on our behalf........it is rather sickening and make no mistake...YOU WILL pay the price for your insolence.......!!