4 of Satan’s biggest lies to born-again believers

Watch out the heavy guns have arrived ...... wait for the words ..... that bite .....

That may be true Chester. That has happened to me also.
But not with something YOU YOURSELF POSTED!

I think I would KNOW what I said and not use what I said against someone else.

I see there is a little confusion here. I am not clear from this what the false was against
and how it was taken by BCSenior.

But then if it looks bad, in this forum, it can easily become something else.

I am reminded of the roaring lion looking for people to devour.

8 Your enemy the devil, like a roaring lion, is on the prowl looking for someone to devour.
9 Resist him, strong in your faith, because you know that your brothers and sisters throughout the world are enduring the same kinds of suffering.
1 Peter 5

It can easily become something aggressive because anger gets involved.
If you doubt the power of the issues here, you doubt the real battle.

In the desert when a prey animal is hurt the vultures gather. I can see them
circling

It seems to go back to posts 72,73. I think BC senior (in post # 73) was actually answering what Dcontroversal actually said in post #72. I think what got in the box above his writing in post #73 was a mistake. Of course I could be wrong - I am just guessing!

And I don't think the response BCsenior writes in #73 is very nice - "brainwashed", "stupid"! Ah, not the best word choices! But I guess he needs to answer himself . . .

That's correct.

The Word came (and became Jesus)
to FREE BACs from being in bondage to sin.

He FREED BACs from being slaves of sin.

However, BACs are still free to choose to sin!

And most today choose to do just that.

We are the end-times church of Laodicea ...
which is not only fast asleep, but is luke-warm as well.

Deceived by Satan through the false churches.

gnostic view - perfect pure spirit with a lost impure flesh.
You can be Genghis Khan, butchering people, torturing them and still be a pure holy believer
going to heaven, full of the Holy Spirit.

Why because the evil deeds are the flesh showing itself, and one disdain and hatred of this
behaviour is the pure spirit that is eternal and with Jesus.

Now if these psychopaths want to believe this, that is fine, as long as they are put in a safe
place and I do not have to spend time with them unless I have protection.

Why? Because who am I talking to? The nutcase mass murderer or the loving pure spirit.
And when the spirit actually is bound to the individual and flesh at judgement, what a shock.
There is no division between guilt. If the flesh causes sin, the person is thrown into hell.

28 But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to desire her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
29 If your right eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away! It is better to lose one of your members than to have your whole body thrown into hell.
Matt 5

Jesus spoke this to show guilt is in the whole individual not just their flesh.

I wonder if this question could be put in a more imaginative way.
Obviously walking with Jesus in love is fulfilling His will, which is our salvation.
God is keeping us in His walk, it is Him who works in our hearts and lives every day.

To suggest a believer is not abiding and in dwelt by the Holy Spirit and His power declares
this is not an experience you are aware of. God bless you.

May you come to know Jesus flowing from every pore of your being, Praise the Lord.

We are the end-times church of Laodicea ...
which is not only fast asleep, but is luke-warm as well.

When Jesus spits you out of His mouth
that means you're not going to heaven.

I never said Paul said that. Another one of your spins.
The Bible says it.

They are really bothered by the idea of losing a seal.
Paul says we are sealed by the Holy Spirit dwelling in our hearts.

22 who also sealed us and gave us the Spirit in our hearts as a down payment
2 Cor 1

30 And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.
Eph 4

What happens when a believer denies their faith and becomes something else denying God?
Does the Holy Spirit leave and the seal thereby is removed?

Paul said of this one believer
15> For some have already wandered away to follow Satan.
1 Tim 5

The absurd idea would be the Holy Spirit in someones heart being mixed with an evil spirit.
When Paul handed over someone to satan for rebuke, how does this work

20 Among these are Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I handed over to Satan to be taught not to blaspheme.
1 Tim 1

I am not sure there is a definitive answer but there is definately an issue if the Holy Spirit leaves someone.
God bless you

I did not spin, The context was the three times paul spoke about being sealed with the spirit.

I just told you what Paul said. Paul did not say what you said. The bible can not contradict paul. So the bible does not say it either.

You want a bible which contradicts itself. Thats on you.

HAHAHHAHAH wow man.........I see you have drunk the Koolaid...............keep believing that and see how that view works out in the end.....

What is at stake is the AUTHORITY of being a CHURCH.....not SALVATION.....but hey.....salvation losers gotta skew hey

Strange days, I really think some people are just making it up as they go along.

I guess........context is one of the most ignored requirements for knowing and understanding truth.......

The gift of salvation must be maintained, the Holy Spirit won't abide in an unholy vessel. Just because you said a prayer, doesn't mean your automatically going to heaven. This is what satans mega churches are based on, a lie.

Not quite pal.......JESUS finishes what he starts......and if you don't believe that, you don't believe the bible......and your last statement was ignorant............

1. No one said it is only by prayer
2. If it must be maintained. It is of works, not of grace
3. According to the law. 1 sin makes you unholy. So according to you. The HS can never abide in anyone.

Amazing that you got 7 disagrees, but we live in a time where people do not want to act Christlike, and believe they are alright with God.

But the Bible says hypocrisy will increase as time goes on.

Isa 59:2 But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.

Sin separates us from God whether we claim Jesus or not.

2Ti 3:4 lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
2Ti 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
2Ti 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

Some people have a form of godliness, but they deny the Spirit leading them, and it points out that they are lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God, for they will not let go of the flesh, but want to enjoy sin, and then believe they are alright with God.

The Bible says turn away from them, for their hypocrisy does not do justice to the Christian Church that is supposed to preach repentance of sins, all the while they are holding unto sin themselves.

They will not let go of the flesh, so they do not come to the truth that sin affects their relationship with God, but say they cannot abstain from sins, sin daily, and sin does not affect their relationship with God, so they hold unto sin thinking they are alright with God.

And there is no excuse for a Spirit led life will not fulfill the lusts of the flesh, for they have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts, and show the ways of the Spirit, which there is no ways of the flesh.

And God will not allow them to be tempted above what they can handle, and will give them an escape from the temptation so they can bear it.

For if they say they cannot abstain from sin, then they are holding unto sin, with the attitude we are not perfect, we are only human.

Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
Heb 10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

All sin can be forgiven, but a person should understand the truth that sin does affect their relationship with God, and get rid of the sin, and move on.

If a person sins wilfully, holds unto sin, then there is no more sacrifice for sins, which the blood of Jesus cannot take the sin away because they are not letting it go, but holding unto it.

That is the difference between having the Spirit, and not having the Spirit, for a person that has the Spirit will move forward in the Spirit, and if they do sin they will get rid of it, and move forward in the Spirit, having the proper understanding that sin affects their relationship with God.

But those that do not have the Spirit will hold unto sin, and think they are alright with God despite their sins, but they want to enjoy sins, live in sin, and believe they are alright with God, having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God.

And there is many people that will not let go of the world that claim Christ, and you see their hypocrisy in society as they enjoy sin, but claim the Bible and Christ.

And they think they are alright, and will go against you if you point it out, but they are ever learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth, for their flesh is their master, and they are led of the flesh, all the while they think they have the Spirit.

2Ti 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.
2Ti 2:20 But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour.
2Ti 2:21 If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work.

The Lord knows them that are His having this seal, for this is what seals the saints, and how they are led of the Spirit, that everyone that names the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Those that do not do the Father's will to depart from iniquity shall not be able to dwell with Jesus.

Rom 11:20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
Rom 11:21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
Rom 11:22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.

Heb 3:12 Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.
Heb 3:13 But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.

dear OP

try reading 1 John 1:10 and see if you can still believe that you are saved


what I want to say is:

When JESUS said--->It is finished<----this is a legal accounting statement.....it means PAID IN FULL