Would my servants fight?

As Scripture says; "For everything there is a season, and a time for every purpose under Heaven." See Ecclesiastes 3:1-8 for the full scripture..

When we are led by the Spirit, I believe we will know what is right for us to do, in that moment.

That Scripture in Ecclesiastes 3 is about Solomon"s frustration with finding meaning in the world:

There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: 2a time to be born and a time to die, a time to plant and a time to uproot, 3a time to kill and a time to heal, a time to tear down and a time to build, 4a time to weep and a time to laugh, a time to mourn and a time to dance, 5a time to scatter stones and a time to gather them, a time to embrace and a time to refrain from embracing, 6a time to search and a time to give up, a time to keep and a time to throw away, 7a time to tear and a time to mend, a time to be silent and a time to speak, 8a time to love and a time to hate, a time for war and a time for peace.

The world and what happens in the world just goes on and on and no one can stop it! People are born, people die, there is weeping, and there is laughing, etc. etc. Solomon goes on to say that all that is under the sun is vanity: only when God (who is Love) steps in is there meaning.

To use Ecclesiastes 3:1-8 as justification for doing these actions misses what Solomon was writing about.

Am a bit puzzled about this, what was Jesus meaning. He tells his disciples to take swords but then tells them to put them away. Why did he say this? Was he endorsing violence or use of weapons or what. Or was he saying, you take these weapons and can have them but just dont use them to fight.

Yea seems strange that people keep quoting eccelesiastes too. Why do they do that? Its not anything to do with the topic. Dont they understand what the Preacher was saying. Vanity all is vanity.

There is nothing new under the sun. He was talking about the world, but Jesus Kingdom is not of this world...It seems to me some people unable to discern the difference.

What the Preacher was saying regarding vanity is that the things on this earth are temporary and it would be foolish to treat them as anything else. "A time for war and a time for peace is quite appropriate in this context". As the Lamb of God, Christ would not open His mouth in protest. But when He comes the second time as a Lion, He comes to make war and destroy His enemies (Rev 19)

It seems that you are unable to discern that there would be a time when the Kingdom of Christ would not be established on earth, and then there would be a time when there would be a literal, physical, visible Kingdom of God on earth. Again, there is a time and a season for everything.

I suppose if one could dismiss most of the OT accounts of God’s commands to vanquish several races of people by sword, bow and spear, and discount Abraham and his small army actually going to battle and then have the nerve to give the “spoils” of his battle to a priest named Melchizedek, I suppose one could through much effort say God wants us Christians to always turn our cheeks.

But we would also have to do away with much of the NT prophecy about the battles to come.

When one realizes that Jesus and all the Apostles taught the Love and grace of God entirely from the OT, but then dismiss the rest, they throw reason out the window. God gave laws as to when killing was justified and when it was not. We would all do well to heed “the whole council” of God’s word, and not simply the doctrines that appeal to some.

Even the salvation army dont go round bearing carnal weapons.

sure they do

they hit people over the head with their band trombones

I mean seriously? the salvation army?

girl you are lost in a supermarket

Many believe the salvation army represents one aspect the Lord's Churches.......I heard one guy say....We are the church.....yeah sure!!

if I am not mistaken. they are not living up to the standards set by their founder

they do like their brass bands though

God doesn't have a tongue..

The double edged sword shown symbolically in Jesus's mouth Book of Revelation is the Word of God.

Hebrews 4:12

"For the word of God is alive and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart."

Of course, this Word is not only written scripture, it's also that thing by which all men will be judged, Jesus Christ Himself:


Romans 10:9-10

"because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved."

He is the dividing line, as He says, He has not come to bring peace, but a sword.

Just another organizaton started by men.....and NOT one aspect of the Lord's church"es"

As Scripture says; "For everything there is a season, and a time for every purpose under Heaven." See Ecclesiastes 3:1-8 for the full scripture..

When we are led by the Spirit, I believe we will know what is right for us to do, in that moment.

Just another organizaton started by men.....and NOT one aspect of the Lord's church"es"

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I looked them up to know what I was talking about...even though my 1st post was just a humorous response to the silly goings on here being touted as information

they started in England and the idea was to provide physical relief to those who needed it...food, shelter etc. also stores with 'used' goods in good shape with low prices. apparently these ideas have really caught on. and then of course salvation as well. for some reason the founder decided to dole out military names to members hence the army connotation

that's the reader's digest version.

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I looked them up to know what I was talking about...even though my 1st post was just a humorous response to the silly goings on here being touted as information

they started in England and the idea was to provide physical relief to those who needed it...food, shelter etc. also stores with 'used' goods in good shape with low prices. apparently these ideas have really caught on. and then of course salvation as well. for some reason the founder decided to dole out military names to members hence the army connotation

that's the reader's digest version.

They (the Salvation Army) are a real presence in the large inner cities. They operate temporary residence shelters for some to get aid and a hand on finding homes. They usually have an inside/outside the shelter feeding program at least once a day.

They (the Salvation Army) are a real presence in the large inner cities. They operate temporary residence shelters for some to get aid and a hand on finding homes. They usually have an inside/outside the shelter feeding program at least once a day.