Born Again Speaking in Tongues

I believe the word of the woman who testifies of it. Why would God, the perfect Father, not care for the children enough to give them the same joy as we have here?

Maybe what is here on earth is just a replica of what is in heaven? Plausible is my word.

Do you know the 5 occurrences.....context is always helpful.

Yes the cloud and Mary.

Well I guess this is where we differ, I adhere to what is revealed in scripture and do not go beyond.

Jesus superseded time, space, order, rank.

supersede[ soo-per-seed ]SHOW IPA
SYNONYMS|EXAMPLES|WORD ORIGIN
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verb (used with object), su·per·sed·ed, su·per·sed·ing.
to replace in power, authority, effectiveness, acceptance, use, etc., as by another person or thing.
to set aside or cause to be set aside as void, useless, or obsolete, usually in favor of something mentioned; make obsolete:
They superseded the old statute with a new one.
to succeed to the position, function, office, etc., of; supplant.
RELATED WORDS

annul, repudiate, supplant, usurp, overrule, supplement, oust, suspend, displace, remove, replace, succeed, reject, abandon, discard, desert, forsake, outmode, outplace
NEARBY WORDS
supersaur, supersaver, superscribe, superscript, superscription, supersede, supersedeas, supersedure, superseniority, supersensible, supersensitive
ORIGIN OF SUPERSEDE
1485–95; < Latin supersedēre to sit above or upon, forbear, equivalent to super- super- + sedēre to sit1
SYNONYMS FOR SUPERSEDE
1See replace.
2void, overrule, annul, revoke, rescind.


Not natural but?

I wouldn’t want to change your opinion. It’s fluff.

Have to go and tend to dogs, parrot, and cat. My life is not my own.

I see you are using E-sword - good program
preternatural by this definition is not supernatural
in the NT, especially the epistles, the words spirit and spiritual are most commonly used in regards to the saints
sanctified ones by the Holy Spirit

Paul could not speak about heaven , was that not why a thorn was put in his side , to keep him humble about bragging of what he saw ?
I believe heaven and hell are for after this life , and Disneyland in heaven ? sounds like something jesse De-Plantis ( can`t spell his name ) would preach , and he is away with the mixer in his false visits to heaven...

Umm, i see your bias spirit but i would go to the word that phropesy means exposition or interpretation, thus it is to preach. Paul would certainly encourage young Timothy to stir up the gift, he says "Preach the Word", which is the basic meaning in the apostolic times.

Do you have any idea about "prophecy" thing?

Dear Rosemary.....is this some kind of English expression "away with the mixer" meaning.....like "off his rocker"

If i say Jesus drank wine you would refute it

David had the holy Spirit. No gospel , salvation message.
What was the anointing on elijah? Elisha?
Sampson?
Did they burst?
Is heaven bound by our doctrinal boundries?
In acts 10 it says nothing about them believing or having a chance to process peters words.
It says "while peter spoke they spoke in tongues"
Re read it.
I just rest in what it says.
I dont need it to say something else.
Besides what part of the godhead plows up the sinners heart pre-salvation?
The Holy Spirit draws men to Jesus.
Under your perrameters the Holy Spirit must be hands off until AFTER someone is born again.
I would venture that never happens because they would be saved in a mental dynamic.
No,the Holy Spirit is active in the sinner pre-conversion

I can not mentally process the trinity.
I dont have to.
Acts 10 is the same.
It just happened.
I would dare say to tweak those with set doctrinal patterns.
Sooner or later that bible will offend you.
It is not a mere book. It will,at some point FORCE you to make a decision.

That is the main dynamic in preaching.
Is to force them to Jordan.
Jordan is change.

no, it did not say that that was an assumption you made.

1My son, if thou wilt receive my words, and hide my commandments with thee;

2So that thou incline thine ear unto wisdom, and apply thine heart to understanding;

3Yea, if thou criest after knowledge, and liftest up thy voice for understanding;

4If thou seekest her as silver, and searchest for her as for hid treasures;

5Then shalt thou understand the fear of the LORD, and find the knowledge of God.

6For the LORD giveth wisdom: out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding.

7He layeth up sound wisdom for the righteous: he is a buckler to them that walk uprightly.

8He keepeth the paths of judgment, and preserveth the way of his saints.

9Then shalt thou understand righteousness, and judgment, and equity; yea, every good path.

10When wisdom entereth into thine heart, and knowledge is pleasant unto thy soul;

11Discretion shall preserve thee, understanding shall keep thee:

12To deliver thee from the way of the evil man, from the man that speaketh froward things;

YES

Honestly, a man who hit and kick sick persons for to heal and proclaim word of faith teaching is no example for to prophecie the word of God.
The question is which spirit was behind them.

Peter certainly did speak in power at Pentecost, was not drunk and there are believers today who speak in power and is of God, which is not to be confused with what's going on in false religions and counterfeit-revivals. I have heard believers speak in power before and knew it was from God, yet I have also heard imposters who who are of the wicked one abuse spiritual gifts to the point of perverting the gospel by teaching that if you have not spoken in tongues, you have not yet received the Holy Spirit and won't be saved. Don't be so gullible to believe that EVERYONE who CLAIMS to speak in power is from God. There are imposters.

I don't criticize the move of the Holy Spirit. Only imposters/counterfeits who pervert the gospel and are out to deceive others. In regards to the words of Jesus that you cited, "you won't go in yourself, and you keep others from entering too." (Matthew 23:13) The Pharisees rejected God's righteousness and were seeking to establish their own righteousness (Romans 10:3) and taught others to do the same. Their legalism and self righteousness obscured the narrow gate by which the kingdom must be entered.