What is Hell ? A small study help

A small study help for people interested in making their own study of it . I recommend a dictionary of the Bible, concordance specifically like the Strong's . Then you can do a more thorough study into more passages.

The Bible teaches at times in metaphor or figurative language ; like about Hell. The English translation of words from Greek and Hebrew in the Bible doesn't always convey the meaning or give a answer on its own . More so if you go strictly off the English in some cases it can be a negative without closer inspection .

You have to know what The bible says overall and Christ's teachings on any given subject to know what the bible says yourself .

When we're talking about the Final Judgment ; After the Lords Day in Revelation 20 :
That's a time element for when "hell" actually happens.

But currently when a person dies as Christ teaches in His parable of The rich man and Lazarus; they go to heaven on either side of a divide between them.

The Rich man asked for water to cool his tongue from his torment in the flames ; should call to mind that fact Water symbolizes Eternal life Christ gives: That is what The rich man was in fact asking for , what at that point was too late to obtain .
This would torment any person faced with that reality.

The word Torment in Greek means to to test metal for its worth . By analogy its torment .
The rich man's life was found lacking what's required to be on that side of victory with Lazarus . Eternal Life .

A small study help for people interested in making their own study of it . I recommend a dictionary of the Bible, concordance specifically like the Strong's . Then you can do a more thorough study into more passages.[/quote

Part II
(Continued)

The final judgment is not "for those who don't make it at the end." It is the judgment of all of the unrighteous dead throughout all of history who died without faith. At the great white throne judgment, the dead will receive a resurrected body mete for their punishment in the lake of fire, which cannot be destroyed, but will endure their torment in flame.

The words forever and ever, everlasting, eternal and no rest day or night, would disagree with you. Everyone who comes into the world exists forever. Life and death are both states of conscious existence. It is ones status with God which determines life and death.

Life = Eternal, conscious existence in the joy of the Lord in the kingdom of God

Death = Eternal, conscious existence in separation from God in the lake of fire

As the event of the rich man and Lazarus and the souls under the altar demonstrate, once a person dies, their spirit is conscious and aware, for both those in the presence of Christ and those in Hades. Moses and Elijah appearing with Christ when He was transfigured is another proof of the conscious existence of the spirit after death.

When Jesus said to the thief, "today you will be with me in paradise," He was referring to their spirits departing and going down to that place of comfort where Abraham and Lazarus were, not heaven. For Jesus said to Mary after He had resurrected, "Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father." Therefore, since Jesus had not yet ascended to the Father, He had not yet gone into heaven, but was in that place of comfort/paradise where Abraham and Lazarus were.

Torment forever and ever means exactly what it says, which you and others ignore. The language can't get any plainer than that.

The correct way to read the word of God and specifically Revelation is that "if the plain, literal sense makes good sense, then don't seek any other sense. One of the major problems with expositors is applying a symbolic meaning to what is meant to be interpreted literally, which is what is being done to the event of the rich man and Lazarus.

The lake of fire is the final place of eternal, conscious existence in the lake of fire for unatoned sin committed against an eternal and Holy God.

There are many who commit suicide today and the reason for this is because they are under the assumption that they will become nonexistent, fade to black. If what you are claiming was true, they would have no punishment at all, because that is what they wanted in the first place. You are dead wrong in your teachings here!

One really good verse to understand all the figurative language used about hell or the lake of fire ; is Psalms 37.
This while using a figure, is more plain to understand .


The word "perish" and being "consumed" is referring to the body, not the spirit. We have other scripture regarding "perish" and "destroy" which are based on the Greek words "olethros, apollumi and apoleia" the definitions of which all state that they do not imply annihilation (extinction), but rather complete loss of well being, eternal ruination.

So the whats the opposite of Perish ?

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish,
but have everlasting life.

apollumi - tropically, to incur the loss of true or eternal life; to be delivered up to eternal misery:

One cannot experience eternal misery unless one exists.

Combined Scripture teaches that punishment in the lake of fire is eternal, conscious existence in separation from God in torment in flame.

i dont answer bad and confused people. i call it like it is.

i dont answer bad and confused people. i call it like it is.

Ahwatukee i dont agree with you about how you interpret scripture. its wrong . but im not going to debate it .you can run on and on all you like with your views. imma just stick with the bible.

Refusing to answer his question only makes you seem like you don't have an answer, which it seems you don't. If you were really sure of what you believed in, you would answer the questions put to you here. But the reality is, you have no answers. You only put forth what others have placed in your mind. It's a simple yes or no. I don't expect you to acknowledge this, however others will see it for what it is.

Since you're in the bad habit of assuming lies and accusations about Christians .
I'm going to assume you an accuser. we know who does that. Who'd you learn that from ?
Something about beams too ..

Refusing to answer his question only makes you seem like you don't have an answer, which it seems you don't. If you were really sure of what you believed in, you would answer the questions put to you here. But the reality is, you have no answers. You only put forth what others have placed in your mind. It's a simple yes or no. I don't expect you to acknowledge this, however others will see it for what it is.

it only matters what God thinks of me. Not man. if you please men then you will be lead astray . sorry bro.

"Imma just stick with the Bible". No, that's not a reasonable defence of your points. The reality is, you don't have a clue what you're trying to say

What would God think of you leading others astray by false doctrine? Still waiting for you to address the earlier points. Oh wait, you can't.

Ahwatukee i dont agree with you about how you interpret scripture. its wrong . but im not going to debate it .you can run on and on all you like with your views. imma just stick with the bible.

i dont need to defend anything because im actually a man of God. not a man of the world that needs to bow to peoples mindless attacks .
But you are actually doing that yourself . Im not. nothing i even said, is remotely hard or difficult. you all have been taught along some doctrinal line. I have not. im pretty strict with reading and greek and hebrew. i dont need to debate this stuff, because this should be common knowledge,. but since this is the time of famine i expect this kind of replies from strangers on the internet proclaiming in a really loud and rude way that they are Christians and others not .

i dont need to defend anything because im actually a man of God. not a man of the world that needs to bow to peoples mindless attacks .
But you are actually doing that yourself . Im not. nothing i even said, is remotely hard or difficult. you all have been taught along some doctrinal line. I have not. im pretty strict with reading and greek and hebrew. i dont need to debate this stuff, because this should be common knowledge,. but since this is the time of famine i expect this kind of replies from strangers on the internet proclaiming in a really loud and rude way that they are Christians and others not . All i gotta see is the fruit you all share here.
all you are sharing is poison . i think i said enough. bye all.

i dont need to defend anything because im actually a man of God. not a man of the world that needs to bow to peoples mindless attacks .
But you are actually doing that yourself . Im not. nothing i even said, is remotely hard or difficult. you all have been taught along some doctrinal line. I have not. im pretty strict with reading and greek and hebrew. i dont need to debate this stuff, because this should be common knowledge,. but since this is the time of famine i expect this kind of replies from strangers on the internet proclaiming in a really loud and rude way that they are Christians and others not . All i gotta see is the fruit you all share here.
all you are sharing is poison . i think i said enough. bye all.

Amen......anyone for cake.......!!

Well the burden of proof is on you, since you were the one making the claims. So sorry to break it to you, but you do have to defend it. At the moment, you've proven nothing. All you've done is try to slither away whenever people try to reason with you because you lack the basic scriptural understanding to debate. I'm not sure if you are a man of God because if you were, you would understand scripture.

And sorry, your line of reasoning doesn't wash with me, I've come from a JW background, so you're not going to try and use that kind of talk with me. I see through it.