Did Jesus ever tell us that we no longer need to keep the law of Moses?

Yes, you have pointed out how We certainly see this different, If you ever wish to sway me it can only come with the Scriptures, in context, anything short is just conversation.

So your all for polygamy

Thats good to know

I think God does not agree wiht you, ANd he has stated that over and over in the OT as well as the NT

I did not say that. It is against the law of the land. I render unto Caesar... it shouldn't be hard to give a couple chapter and verses for Solomon being an adulterer many times over and God not overlooking it. No need to get upset.

I could care less what the law of ceasar says

GOD said that if you sleep with a woman who is not your wife (by interpretation 1 man and 1 woman) then you are in adultry

I am not angry, I am just sick of people excusing sin and saying it is not sin.

1 Timothy 4:1-6
1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
6 If thou put the brethren in remembrance of these things, thou shalt be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished up in the words of faith and of good doctrine, whereunto thou hast attained.
In the LATTER TIMES some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to SEDUCING spirits, and DOCTRINES OF DEVILS.
Forbidding to marry, and commanding to ABSTAIN from MEATS, which God hath created to be received with THANKSGIVING of them which BELIVE and know the TRUTH.
If thou put the BRETHREN in REMEMBRANCE of these things, THOU SHALT BE A GOOD MINISTER of Yahoosha.
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Mark 7:18-19
18 And he saith unto them, Are ye so without understanding also? Do ye not perceive, that whatsoever thing from without entereth into the man, it cannot defile him;
19 Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats?
What goes into our belly cant defile us but what goes into our heart can, like false doctrine.

Well you have to read up on you hyenas, here is a video for you

Bouth sexes have penises and testicels.

1. Most early church leaders was false church leaders after year 150A.D And they decided what to read and what not to.

2. "Neither, says he, shalt thou eat
the lamprey, nor the polypus, nor the
cuttle-fish; that is thou shalt not be
like such men, by seeking to con-
verse with them who are altogether
wicked and adjudged to death. For so
those fishes are alone accursed, that
wallow in the mire, nor swim as oth-
er fishes, but tumble in the dirt at
the bottom of the deep. "

It dosent say a word about bottom dwellers in the text above?

3. Read galatian again and have in mind that they speak of two diffrent laws. One false man made law of the scribes and the Pharasses with of the forskin, stoning, 10 commandments, foodlaws, living in bouths on tabernackel etc etc. Laws and traditions who are man made and also from missunderstanding Moses text who they lost the key to after the babylonian captivity.

And the secound law is the one true law with the 10 commandments. And the ten commandments have alway been the law and always will be the law.

Have that in mind when you read galatian and se the word law.

not even the video you posted says that.


https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2016/05/animals-myths-hyenas-lions-science/

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/whos-laughing-now-38529396/

https://today.duke.edu/2002/11/dreahyena1102.html

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/agricultural-and-biological-sciences/brown-hyena

https://www.jstor.org/stable/3558808

https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rstb.1939.0004

https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Mammalian-sexual-differentiation:-lessons-from-the-Glickman-Cunha/4edc97a8defd1000ebd9a88adbcf9324dcb48e10

https://pubs.er.usgs.gov/publication/70030020

uh huh.

have you ever actually read Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy?
and by the way have you ever even read Galatians?


you think Paul is writing here about a fake law completely made up by evil scribes, of absolute human origin, that was never binding on anyone in God's sight in the first place?

let's see what Paul is quoting:


why don't you go read Leviticus 16-20 and see a little bit of the context of what God ((note: not Moses, but YHWH)) calls 'My statutes and My judgements' -- who knows? maybe it's just the 10 commandments and nothing else.

Evidence for this rather damning assertion?


"Wallow in the mire... tumble in the dirt at the bottom of the deep".


Paul was clearly talking about the Mosaic law.

You might checking your spelling before posting.

Galations tells us the purpose of the law.

And makes it clear. Once we have been led to Christ, The law has completed its purpose.

Yes well he gave the disciples a new commandment, which was to love God, (which was already given in the law of Moses) and.. part two - to love one another as God has loved them. This second addition was actually a NEW commandment. Why because Jesus laying down his life for others...nobody had actually done that before for the whole of mankind. A lamb had done it way back when Abraham was told to sacrifice Isaac, and the israelites got out of egypt thanks to the sacrifice of lambs on passover...but no human had laid down their life for others like these lambs had until Jesus.

All people have violated God's law. That's a fact. Jesus lived and died among men to provide the remedy. Even yet, all men (people) are guilty of violating that Law of God if neglecting the least of that Law. But only under His personal blood covering do we have any hope. That blood covenant is based on love, not severe obedience to the very Law that condemned everyone.

I'm not sure if this is the subject you're talking about or not, but on the idea of polygamy God's law has some wonderful instructions on what to do when, if I remember right, a man dies without any sons. His widow is to be married to his living brother. Of course this might involve moving to somewhere like Tahiti so that one can have multiple wives, but that wouldn't be all bad would it?
God's law is perfect, enlightening the soul! I think there's even a ceremony to go through if the living brother is unable to marry the widow. By God's commandments we are guided, and in keeping them there is great reward!

Your point here is clear, but its implication is foggy. Are you stating that we as Christians should still strive to obey the Law as given to Moses? If so, for what purpose?

I would say not only to just make God happy but to work on my own obedience as well.
Those laws went from being written on stone to written upon our hearts, right?

If they were just "a shadow" of what was to come, isn't "the shadow" actually way less detailed than the thing casting it?

Except for the parts Jesus fulfilled, like all the animal blood sacrifices with all the statutes and ordinances that went along with them, and of course, circumcision, and rending the veil from top to bottom so we can go directly to God through His blood, and not a "priest" etc. didn't Jesus say he didn't change even a jot or tittle of it?

I TOTALLY AND COMPLETELY understand that NONE of "the Law" gets ANYONE into heaven, and IT IS A GIFT OF GRACE, NOT by any of our works but as Jesus said:

Matthew 5:16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
21 Ye have heard that it was said of them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:
22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

It really seems the law, though not able to save your soul, is still an intense part of who God is and what He is looking for, wouldn't you say?

No, I would not say that at all. The Law was given to Israel, not to the Church. Our relationship with God is not based at all on Law, or obedience to it, but on Christ. If it were based in any way on Law, we would fail. Our obedience is not to the Law, but to the Holy Spirit Who lives in us.

Paul rhetorically asked the Galatians that if they began by the Spirit, would they bring the work to completion by the flesh (obedience); the implied answer is No. Further, he wrote that those who seek to be justified by Law must obey all of it. That includes the sacrifices, the stonings, the gatherings and offerings and feasts and so on. That is simply impossible now, as there is no temple or tabernacle, and there aren't any Levites or priests to receive offerings and make sacrifices.

Our hope is not in the Law; it is in Christ alone.

So what was Jesus saying in Matt?

Who do you believe makes up the Christian Church? Do you think maybe that it is made up from the 10 tribes that were scattered throughout the world.

Do you know who possesses the gates?

Remember this promise Genesis 22:17 That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the sea shore; and thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies;
or
Hosea 1:9 Then said God, Call his name Loammi: for ye are not my people, and I will not be your God.
10 Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people, there it shall be said unto them, Ye are the sons of the living God.
I just believe
Hosea 1:11 Then shall the children of Judah and the children of Israel be gathered together, and appoint themselves one head, and they shall come up out of the land: for great shall be the day of Jezreel.

Here is what the WORD SAYS

Romans 2:6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds:
7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:
8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,
9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;
10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:
11 For there is no respect of persons with God.
12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;
13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another
16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.
17 Behold, thou art called a Jew, and restest in the law, and makest thy boast of God,
18 And knowest his will, and approvest the things that are more excellent, being instructed out of the law;
19 And art confident that thou thyself art a guide of the blind, a light of them which are in darkness,
20 An instructor of the foolish, a teacher of babes, which hast the form of knowledge and of the truth in the law.
21 Thou therefore which teachest another, teachest thou not thyself? thou that preachest a man should not steal, dost thou steal?
22 Thou that sayest a man should not commit adultery, dost thou commit adultery? thou that abhorrest idols, dost thou commit sacrilege?
23 Thou that makest thy boast of the law, through breaking the law dishonourest thou God?
:24 For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles through you, as it is written.
:25 For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision.
26 Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision?
27 And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfil the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law?
28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

Verse 29 sums it up nicely.