Appropriating Grace

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Rasputin_OZ

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I'll be praying you find your answers in Scripture which will point you to Jesus and Him crucified for your sins.
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ok thanks. I guess that I am stuck then as I not finding anything in scripture that builds my faith.
 
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Rasputin_OZ said:
sadly it not working Reading his Word. I think I need prayer. To just get my Faith back , I need help in my unbeleif
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It may take some time and patience. It may not come right away. I know the feeling of doubt. I would read and be encouraged but often time doubt would come back. It seems for me that tendency to doubt and worry can come easily. I know anxiety and how it can seek to take charge and I have often times let it, but it is something I need to fight back. Not in the sense of not feeling the anxiety but stepping out in faith even if fear or anxiety is present. And I really believe salvation is about trust. It is trust in Jesus, trust that his work on the cross and resurrection is enough to save those who believe in him, trust in his word, and trust in his character.
 
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Rasputin_OZ said:
I just feeling so alone in this world. I am doubting that God has accepted me.
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Rasputin

Jesus died for all mankind. Not one person is left out. We believe and receive His free gift of salvation.

It’s not His will that any perish but that all comes to saving faith. It’s just that simple. He’s for you, not against you.
 
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Joh 4:42 And said unto the woman, Now we believe, not because of thy saying: for we have heard him ourselves, and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world.

Joh 6:33 For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world.

For God so loved the world......

The gospel is good news.
 
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Grace for grace...

Old Testament grace in Hebrew is defined as one who is superior bend the knee in kindness to one who is inferior. Unmerited favor comes from the Hebrew.

New Testament grace is the divine influence upon the heart with its reflection in the life, including gratitude.

One grace is upon. The greater of the new covenant is within. Holy Spirit. His power which is freely given, unmerited, and longs to indwell His people. Ask.
 
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Rasputin_OZ

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stonesoffire said:
Rasputin

Jesus died for all mankind. Not one person is left out. We believe and receive His free gift of salvation.

It’s not His will that any perish but that all comes to saving faith. It’s just that simple. He’s for you, not against you.
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yes , the belief is the part
 
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Karraster

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Rasputin_OZ said:
ok thanks. I guess that I am stuck then as I not finding anything in scripture that builds my faith.
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For me it was, "...all who call on the name of the lord will be saved..." and I thought, wait what is his name? I'd like to call on it. That was a major turning point to suddenly see things that were there all along but hidden from me.
 
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Rasputin_OZ said:
sadly it not working Reading his Word. I think I need prayer. To just get my Faith back , I need help in my unbeleif
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On you tube there is a series called Resting in the faith of Jesus part one two and three by Joseph Prince. That has helped me when I have felt without faith and put pressure on myself to somehow increase it. Worth a look at.
 
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seed_time_harvest

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Rasputin_OZ said:
yes I understand.. so where do get the belief from
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There Is only one place to get faith that GOD will accept and that faith comes from GOD,Now GOD did give every man 5 senses and every person knows that there Is a GOD because the creation declares It so then there Is no excuse,JESUS said that no one can come to HIM unless the FATHER WHO sent HIM draw them and GOD looks at the heart so then IMO that means your conscience has to be true In repentance and then GOD comes In and creates that person’s spirit In true righteousness and perfect and Incorruptible and seals It.

grace through faith.

GOD IS a SPIRIT and must be worshipped In spirit(us) and Truth.
Where/When we are weak In this flesh ,HE IS strong.
 
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Rasputin_OZ

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Ta, so if I don't have enough faith I am not called . thanks makes sense
 
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seed_time_harvest

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Rasputin_OZ said:
Ta, so if I don't have enough faith I am not called . thanks makes sense
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you have 5 senses and you can See GODs creation.
I think the word "faith" for man Is the same as believe which for man BEFORE salvation can only be done with one or more of your senses.

It sounded ridiculous to me until I heard the teaching by Andrew Wommack called Spirit Soul And Body.

Listen to that and It will answer your questions If you are sincerely looking for Info.🤔
awmi.net
 
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eternally-gratefull

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CherieR said:
I may should have put for the question: "how do we come to a true or good understanding of the grace of God?"That is closer to what I meant by the question at the beginning. Basically how do you know the grace given us in Christ in a way that would bring you peace in your heart?
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Romans 8:16
The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God,
 
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eternally-gratefull

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CherieR said:
Yes you can confess your doubt to God. He already knows about it and cares about you. ☺ You can also talk to someone who you know and trust about the doubts as well. What exactly are you having doubts and shaken faith about if I may ask?
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I am reminded of the passage where the man is desperate to have his child healed. And jesus said he could if he believed, The man answered, I believe Lord, yet help me in my unbelief, And Jesus answered and healed his child.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Rasputin_OZ said:
I just feeling so alone in this world. I am doubting that God has accepted me.
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That is what Satan wants you to think, And if you grew up or have been grounded in a legalistic system. It is HARD to overcome, But many many people have overcome in in Christ. Pray hard. And we can also pray for you (and will)
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Rasputin_OZ said:
sadly it not working Reading his Word. I think I need prayer. To just get my Faith back , I need help in my unbeleif
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Mark 9:23-25
23 Jesus said to him, “If you can believe, all things are possible to him who believes.”

24 Immediately the father of the child cried out and said with tears, “Lord, I believe; help my unbelief!”

25 When Jesus saw that the people came running together, He rebuked the unclean spirit, saying to it, “Deaf and dumb spirit, I command you, come out of him and enter him no more!”

Jesus answered his prayer, THATS how we get faith back, By goin got him and allowing him to PROVE he is faithful
 
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