Not By Works

Of course this teacher is not the only one that teaches this, it is ubiquitous across the land, but I did want to substantiate my concern with a quote..

"The renewal of the mind in salvation brings not simply a renovation of character, but transformation of the old to the new self. In Christ, the old self no longer exists" [Study Bible (MacArthur) Note under Ephesians 4:24].

You are right this does open that door to a sinless perfectionism...I never really noticed that before.
Very scary doctrine.

It seems the number grows less and less daily who "get it"

2 Peter 3:16
As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable twist, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

Your false accusations against some who speak the truth, and don't see things as you do, is very telling.

We love Catholics Orv.

We don't love Roman Catholicism.

Are Catholics Christians?

1 John 2:9-11
He that says he is in the light, and hates his brother, is in darkness even until now.
10He that loves his brother abides in the light, and there is no occasion of stumbling in him.
11But he that hates his brother is in darkness, and walks in darkness, and knows not where he goes, because that darkness has blinded his eyes.

Time for Roman Catholics to move on and reject those parts of their faith that are wrong and follow Jesus.

That would be quite a bit. I do not think the church can reform itself, it failed with the counter reformation and with the Vatican II.

Yes, but rather, move on from Roman Catholicism, and follow Jesus.

John 14:6
Jesus said unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man comes unto the Father, but by me.

1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

Acts 5:29
Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

Galatians 5:1
Stand fast therefore in the liberty with which Christ has made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.

I am sorry if you are offended by my mild correction of your misunderstanding.I do not consider anything I have said to be a rebuke.However in my understanding and practice,when I emphasize in speech,then unfortunately,I do shout.It would be good for you to read these verses too:

James 3:1;I Timothy 5:19,20.

I had stopped responding to this thread but decided to respond to your concern,as I came across it today and I hope you will carefully consider all that I have said.You are never too old to learn.

no but people can reform themselves with christs help,
once they do that they may leave the church

but be aware , many so called Chrisitan churches also with false doctrine much worse than the catholics, at least they seek forgiveness when they sin, some churches teach chrisitans are no longer sinners and do not sin and no longer need forgiveness

@UnderGrace ...
I have John Macs study bible , and in his notes , he says there is still sin in the believers unredeemed flesh , he does not preach sinless perfection on Ephesians 4:24...xox...

Of course.....what I love are the deceivers that red x biblical truths and or plain factual truths......like rat circus......go look at the thread about is the bible the word of GOD.......red x'ing my stance against ISLAM while by default supporting ISLAM......

We have the same issue today within Christianity that Israel had......remember what Balaam........COMPROMISE......and to be frank the acceptance of false religions, fellowship with false religions and the modern ecumenism is not of GOD.......it is idiotic to believe that ALL of "Christendom" worships the same GOD........by gospel, hence by default we do not worship the same God.........the root of ANY so called Christian group is the GOSPEL.....and if it (the root) is corrupt the whole TREE is corrupt........

Go on please; preach it brother!

Hmm I will take a look...

I agree red X on what is factual is really really reflects very poorly on that person, disagreeing with a fact makes no sense.
I have those people on ignore and mostly I ask them to ignore me.

The problem with Christianity today....NO real power because it has been watered down, believers are easily offended, afraid to OFFEND anyone with the truth, coddling false cults/religions for the sake of trying to win one at the expense of the hard, naked truth........Jesus cut it straight and was not concerned with who got offended at the truth so did John the dipper, PAUL, Elijah etc.........they laid the AX to the root and let the chips fall where they fell......

When anyone that was offended walked away from JESUS he DID NOT coddle them, run them down and beg them to receive the truth.....and this is what Christianity has sunken to........it utterly sickens me........

Yes he uses unredeemed flesh, however that is not the old nature, MacArthur teaches the old nature is gone with regeneration.

MacArthur is well known for changing positions and stating things and then having to retract like stating that the blood of Jesus does not save and that people can take the mark of the beast and still be saved.

I would agree he does not directly teach it the way some on here have taught sinless perfectionism ....however I have heard him speak where he has argued the unredeemed flesh is the physical body and so he states this is where sin remains until we die not that we have an old nature.

"Christians sin because of the vestiges of sinful flesh, not because they have the same old active sinful nature" (Faith Works, p. 116).

Many would dispute this with him.....however he has had to find a way to make it work with scripture and still hold to one nature that is being progressively sanctified. (this teaching is wrong)

He does not really believe in eternal security because in his teaching the person who is not a slave to rightousness was never really saved. (works salvation)

Yup saw this at the gay wedding thread....it was shocking, stating we are not to judge the world, completely misundertanding Paul when he stated this.....that leaves us pretty powerless to effect change.

I really, really, really hear you!!!

We are no longer salt....We no longer work against putrefaction.

Well much worse that RCC would mean that they are not following any biblical truth.

Very True, they spreading lies and deception...