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The Muslims do not believe Christ to be God, but they hold Him to be a prophet. I think if you can convince him of what Christ actually says about Himself, the Muslim will have a dilemma on his hands, because either Christ lied (which should be unthinkable for a prophet), or He spoke the truth (and is indeed God incarnate).
If you won't coddle Islam and must treat the Muslim harshly, I hope you don't show favouritism, and are consistent across all false religions such as Judaism and Atheism.
And finally, I am He-rat, of the Circus-mice! At your service!
If you won't coddle Islam and must treat the Muslim harshly, I hope you don't show favouritism, and are consistent across all false religions such as Judaism and Atheism.
And finally, I am He-rat, of the Circus-mice! At your service!
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The Muslims do not believe Christ to be God, but they hold Him to be a prophet. I think if you can convince him of what Christ actually says about Himself, the Muslim will have a dilemma on his hands, because either Christ lied (which should be unthinkable for a prophet), or He spoke the truth (and is indeed God incarnate).
If you won't coddle Islam and must treat the Muslim harshly, I hope you don't show favouritism, and are consistent across all false religions such as Judaism and Atheism.
And finally, I am He-rat, of the Circus-mice! At your service!
If you won't coddle Islam and must treat the Muslim harshly, I hope you don't show favouritism, and are consistent across all false religions such as Judaism and Atheism.
And finally, I am He-rat, of the Circus-mice! At your service!
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The Muslims do not believe Christ to be God, but they hold Him to be a prophet. I think if you can convince him of what Christ actually says about Himself, the Muslim will have a dilemma on his hands, because either Christ lied (which should be unthinkable for a prophet), or He spoke the truth (and is indeed God incarnate).
If you won't coddle Islam and must treat the Muslim harshly, I hope you don't show favouritism, and are consistent across all false religions such as Judaism and Atheism.
And finally, I am He-rat, of the Circus-mice! At your service!
If you won't coddle Islam and must treat the Muslim harshly, I hope you don't show favouritism, and are consistent across all false religions such as Judaism and Atheism.
And finally, I am He-rat, of the Circus-mice! At your service!
I have given this man THE Gospel unto Salvation. THAT is what we must do. If they accept it, then all this other stuff has value, NOT BEFORE. He rejects it. Reason and apologetics will be useless to those that are not seeking, honest, skeptics. This man is not. He is attempting to deceive baby Christians and true seekers.
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I think there is a difference between not knowing Jesus, and hating Him. Many of the Pharisees hated Jesus, and hence became guilty of blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. They attributed His works to Satan.
The Muslims hold Jesus to be a prophet. So they recognise His good works, even if they don't recognise His deity. So although they don't know the real Jesus, I think it's unreasonable to claim that they hate Him.
The Muslims hold Jesus to be a prophet. So they recognise His good works, even if they don't recognise His deity. So although they don't know the real Jesus, I think it's unreasonable to claim that they hate Him.
A muslim asked, if Jesus is God, why would He not know the hour of His return? If He is a God, why is He not omniscient? They don't understand that Jesus needed to be subservient to the will of the father when He took the role of the Son. That is their argument to disprove the diety of Christ. They reject whatever evidence you show them so it's pointless.
Also someone quoted a verse that God never sleeps, always watching Israel while Jesus slept on the boat, therefore He is not God.
Also someone quoted a verse that God never sleeps, always watching Israel while Jesus slept on the boat, therefore He is not God.
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Muhammed - Who was he?
He claimed Mecca was founded by Abraham, except before 600 AD there is no record of the city.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mecca#History
The early history of Mecca is still largely disputed, as there are no unambiguous references to it in ancient literature prior to the rise of Islam.[31] The Roman Empire took control of part of the Hejaz in 106 CE,[32] ruling cities such as Hegra (now known as Mada'in Saleh), located to the north of Mecca. Even though detailed descriptions were established of Western Arabia by Rome, such as by Procopius, there are no references of a pilgrimage and trading outpost such as Mecca.[33] The first direct mention of Mecca in external literature occurs in 741 CE, in the Byzantine-Arab Chronicle, though here the author places it in Mesopotamia rather than the Hejaz.[33]
Given the inhospitable environment[34] and lack of historical references in Roman, Persian and Indian sources, historians including Patricia Crone and Tom Holland have cast doubt on the claim that Mecca was a major historical trading outpost.[34][35]
So whoever Muhammed was, his story is not significant other than as the founder of a violent and dictatorial
idiology that conquers and eliminates any opposition it comes across if it can.
It is the best fuzzy feel faith you can have, so that to oppose it can be called hatred, worthy of death,
while what it is is simple relabelling everything as Islamic, and then eliminating parts it does not like
with impunity. And the arbitors of this attitude is a weird mix of fanaticism and murder.
So it provides family protection, while dominating and owning the members through violence and abuse,
it conquers social systems, while seemingly just, but dividing and stigmatising all opposition as evil.
Make no mistake, it is brutal and aggressive, if not pointed out that it is unjust, self flattering and happy
to deceive and destroy others on a whim.
A classic idea is Islam has the moral high ground, except actually doing it and not sinning is often not
bothered with. Strange that, chastise the infidel and forget to actually do the right thing. No one is
checking because everyone is obviously, and anyway no one can say you are not because that itself
is wrong,
He claimed Mecca was founded by Abraham, except before 600 AD there is no record of the city.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mecca#History
The early history of Mecca is still largely disputed, as there are no unambiguous references to it in ancient literature prior to the rise of Islam.[31] The Roman Empire took control of part of the Hejaz in 106 CE,[32] ruling cities such as Hegra (now known as Mada'in Saleh), located to the north of Mecca. Even though detailed descriptions were established of Western Arabia by Rome, such as by Procopius, there are no references of a pilgrimage and trading outpost such as Mecca.[33] The first direct mention of Mecca in external literature occurs in 741 CE, in the Byzantine-Arab Chronicle, though here the author places it in Mesopotamia rather than the Hejaz.[33]
Given the inhospitable environment[34] and lack of historical references in Roman, Persian and Indian sources, historians including Patricia Crone and Tom Holland have cast doubt on the claim that Mecca was a major historical trading outpost.[34][35]
So whoever Muhammed was, his story is not significant other than as the founder of a violent and dictatorial
idiology that conquers and eliminates any opposition it comes across if it can.
It is the best fuzzy feel faith you can have, so that to oppose it can be called hatred, worthy of death,
while what it is is simple relabelling everything as Islamic, and then eliminating parts it does not like
with impunity. And the arbitors of this attitude is a weird mix of fanaticism and murder.
So it provides family protection, while dominating and owning the members through violence and abuse,
it conquers social systems, while seemingly just, but dividing and stigmatising all opposition as evil.
Make no mistake, it is brutal and aggressive, if not pointed out that it is unjust, self flattering and happy
to deceive and destroy others on a whim.
A classic idea is Islam has the moral high ground, except actually doing it and not sinning is often not
bothered with. Strange that, chastise the infidel and forget to actually do the right thing. No one is
checking because everyone is obviously, and anyway no one can say you are not because that itself
is wrong,
Jesus says when the disciples ask us show us the Father He says
8 Philip said, "Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us."
9 Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'?
10 Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you are not just my own. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work.
John 14
Jesus is simply declaring He is the Father because He is in the Father and the Father is in Him.
8 Philip said, "Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us."
9 Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'?
10 Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you are not just my own. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work.
John 14
Jesus is simply declaring He is the Father because He is in the Father and the Father is in Him.
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58 "I tell you the truth," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!"
59 At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds
John 8
Jesus called Himself "I am" "I am" is the name of God.
13 Moses said to God, "Suppose I go to the Israelites and say to them, 'The God of your fathers has sent me to you,' and they ask me, 'What is his name?' Then what shall I tell them?"
14 God said to Moses, "I am who I am. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: 'I AM has sent me to you.'"
Exodus 3
59 At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds
John 8
Jesus called Himself "I am" "I am" is the name of God.
13 Moses said to God, "Suppose I go to the Israelites and say to them, 'The God of your fathers has sent me to you,' and they ask me, 'What is his name?' Then what shall I tell them?"
14 God said to Moses, "I am who I am. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: 'I AM has sent me to you.'"
Exodus 3
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