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stonesoffire

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#81
I’ve posted all this before and decontroversal replies are mild to the women that didn’t like it either.

Don’t know why really. It all makes sense to me.
 
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#82
Decon....white in Greek translates to light. Robes of light. Look at it. If you haven’t already that is.
And basar is translated FLESH...........go read it and by faith accept the truth


Original Word: בָּשָׂר
Part of Speech: Noun Masculine
Transliteration: basar
Phonetic Spelling: (baw-sawr')
Definition: flesh

And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;
 
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Anidod

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#83
I’ve posted all this before and decontroversal replies are mild to the women that didn’t like it either.

Don’t know why really. It all makes sense to me.
Yea makes sense to me also 🤷‍♀️
 
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#84
I’ve posted all this before and decontroversal replies are mild to the women that didn’t like it either.

Don’t know why really. It all makes sense to me.
It can only make sense if you are rejecting what GOD states in GENSIS....ADAM was FLESH

Original Word: בָּשָׂר
Part of Speech: Noun Masculine
Transliteration: basar
Phonetic Spelling: (baw-sawr')
Definition: flesh
 
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#85
Blows my mind how one can quote a verse, quote the very inspired word and what GOD does and states and then supposed believers will flat REJECT the truth of the word in favor of something that contradicts the word of GOD.

No wonder JESUS asks if he will find faith when he returns....if we cannot BELIEVE and accept a simple word like FLESH......Christianity is in big trouble!!
 

stonesoffire

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#86
It can only make sense if you are rejecting what GOD states in GENSIS....ADAM was FLESH

Original Word: בָּשָׂר
Part of Speech: Noun Masculine
Transliteration: basar
Phonetic Spelling: (baw-sawr')
Definition: flesh
I don’t reject it but I know that it’s not written as continuous from the beginning. It’s states a synopsis in the beginning, then goes on to recreate the scene with specifics.
 

stonesoffire

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Blows my mind how one can quote a verse, quote the very inspired word and what GOD does and states and then supposed believers will flat REJECT the truth of the word in favor of something that contradicts the word of GOD.

No wonder JESUS asks if he will find faith when he returns....if we cannot BELIEVE and accept a simple word like FLESH......Christianity is in big trouble!!
Oh come on...that has nothing to do with our discussion. We differ. That’s all. Just like the baptism of Holy Spirit. We don’t agree. It’s ok. I still like you even if you are wrong on 2/3’s of the Word.

Jk....
 
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I don’t reject it but I know that it’s not written as continuous from the beginning. It’s states a synopsis in the beginning, then goes on to recreate the scene with specifics.
False again.....Adam and EVE did not FALL until AFTER she was made......FLESH is the word and yes indeed you are rejecting it....tragic
 

stonesoffire

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False again.....Adam and EVE did not FALL until AFTER she was made......FLESH is the word and yes indeed you are rejecting it....tragic
Well, boo hoo. Lol. Sorry but it’s not that important. Unless one tries to misinterpret white as white and not light out of revelation.

Or deny Jesus is the Light of the world. Or the transfiguration. I could go on, but Decon....believe what you like.

I’ll just oppose when needed. Makes life interesting don’t ya think?
 

stonesoffire

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And basar is translated FLESH...........go read it and by faith accept the truth


Original Word: בָּשָׂר
Part of Speech: Noun Masculine
Transliteration: basar
Phonetic Spelling: (baw-sawr')
Definition: flesh

And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;
Did he have ribs as a being of light? This just means they were Spirit first. The fall brought man down to dust.

We are returning to this when we die and enter heaven.
 

stonesoffire

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Another thing....since they were light and were used to having angels and God with them, when the serpent appeared, he came as the shining one. This was the deception. And he still does the same today. If we aren’t asleep we will discern.
 
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Anidod

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Anidod, good thread!

Bedtime!
Thank you for the interaction, i'm not going to lie, I was a bit scared with the percieved animosity but im glad it didn't get hostile 😊 have a goodnight. 😴😪
 
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Jewish teaching is that Adam and Eve we’re beings of light. And being clothed in skin was not of an animal but literally skin. I tend to agree.

I believe man was the crown of creation.
Adam and Eve were created from the dust of the earth, as well as all animals, and creatures, so they were created already with skin, and not beings of light, and they were created a living soul.

Jesus is the beginning of creation, which is the Word that became flesh, the plan of God to come in the future in flesh, which God already had the plan to come in flesh before He created anything.

Which God calls things that have not happened as though they already happened, which the Lamb was slain from the foundation of the world although it did not happen until 4000 years later.

Adam was made in the image of God, and the New Testament says Adam was made in the image of Christ.

The image of God is the image of Christ, which God already had the plan to come in the future in flesh before He created Adam and Eve, and created them in the image that He would show up in the future, and that is in flesh.

So Adam and Eve were created in flesh when they were first created, and not beings of light, for Jesus was born in to this world in flesh, and not a being of light, although He is the Light because He is God, and the Savior to show the truth.

When God covered Adam and Eve with animal skins it was not flesh, but actual animal skins for clothing because Adam and Eve used fig leaves for clothing, and to God the fig leaves was not good enough, but they had to be fully clothed.

But it is true that all things are made for people starting with the man Christ Jesus, who is the firstborn among many creatures, ad the beginning of creation, for He is the first plan God had before He created anything, and the Bible says without Him, the Word, was not anything created that was created, for Jesus is the reason that creation is successful for He is the only way to have salvation, and is the judge of all angels, and people, being a created being that was sinless so He is the standard, and no one has an excuse.

Adam and Eve were not created as beings of light, but created in flesh from the dust of the earth, with a soul, and not given flesh later on.
 
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Anidod

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This really sounds like it comes from a Gnostic or Kabbalah teaching:eek:
Im not familiar with gnostic or kabbalah teachings, could you elaborate?
 

Adstar

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Dcontroversal I have a question. So I understand why you're saying the things you're saying and also what she's saying, but i guess my question is, if the English bible is translated from the hebrew etc., how do you correlate the original text she presented for Gen 3:21 and for the other verse. I confirmed in my physical Strongs concordance and for light and skin it's the same.
There is no such thing in existence as the infallible gospel of Strongs..

It is a great great mistake to use a creation of fallible men ie "Strongs" to interpret scripture.. It always amazes me that some people simply assume that Strongs is without error and are willing to retranslate translate scripture using a book that lays no claim to infallibility..

Yet many people grab a Strongs concordance and see how they can alter scriptures to suit their pet ideas.. They may as well be writing their own scriptures and creating their own religion..
 
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Anidod

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No worries... But even if you get some nasty answers just realize some people come in here to troll and you always have the ignore feature that you can use to block those types
There is no such thing in existence as the infallible gospel of Strongs..

It is a great great mistake to use a creation of fallible men ie "Strongs" to interpret scripture.. It always amazes me that some people simply assume that Strongs is without error and are willing to retranslate translate scripture using a book that lays no claim to infallibility..

Yet many people grab a Strongs concordance and see how they can alter scriptures to suit their pet ideas.. They may as well be writing their own scriptures and creating their own religion..
I think it's funny the same person that advised about nasty comments, is the one resorting to it. Anyways, I never claimed Strongs is infallible, I have three Strongs concordances, different years and have found many discrepancies.

I simply pointed out that the verses she presented does use Or for both light and skins and how would he correlate that.