Communication Error

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LittleMermaid

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Why do men usually say (maybe jokingly or maybe not) women are complicated and not easy to understand? I don't get that. I think it's men that are difficult to understand lol. But then again, I am a woman so maybe that's why?

So men...why do you feel this way? Or are you one of the few men who do understand women? Tell us about it.

Women, do you find men difficult to get? Do you ask them for something and they still don't understand what it is you want?

In what ways could the sexes come together and communicate better with each other?
 
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Stranger36147

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Men and women think differently. We're wired differently. So maybe that's why or one reason why it's hard for us to understand each other.


I feel like women are hard to understand. But I'm a man so I guess that's to be expected.
 
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Stranger36147

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I've heard women say that they don't even understand themselves. If they don't understand themselves....how do you expect men to understand you? :p


You don't expect them to probably. :)
 

Lynx

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There are some women I understand. I understand the ones who take the time to explain. And they understand me when they take the time to listen, because I am always willing to explain.

The women, and the men, that I cannot understand are the ones who don't bother explaining and consider it a waste of time. When they consider communication a waste of time I give up trying to understand them.
 

Pipp

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I don't understand anyone that decides to keep everything to themselves. If you want people to understand you, you have to be vocal. Communication is key.
 
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Why do men usually say (maybe jokingly or maybe not) women are complicated and not easy to understand? I don't get that. I think it's men that are difficult to understand lol. But then again, I am a woman so maybe that's why?
In general, if men don't like something, they make it obvious, or say it outright. Same if they like something. With women, it's hard to tell. For example, husband says to wife "What's wrong?" and wife replies "Nothing", when something is clearly wrong to make her act so snooty. The woman expects the man to read her mind and figure it out, instead of her simply telling him what is bothering her. The man has plenty else to do, without trying to divine the intracacies of the female psyche.

So men...why do you feel this way? Or are you one of the few men who do understand women? Tell us about it.
I think one man who really took the time to understand the female mind was Mel Gibson. He even made a movie about his findings "What women want". If men want to understand the complexities of the female psyche, together with all its flaws and emotion-based quirks, this movie presents Mel's research in an entertaining way.

Women, do you find men difficult to get? Do you ask them for something and they still don't understand what it is you want?
I think men are fairly easy to understand, like a dog is much better understood than a cat, because a dog is more honest.

In what ways could the sexes come together and communicate better with each other?
In general, if people take Jesus' advice, and let their yeses mean yes, and their noes mean no, this will go a long way toward improving communications. Also, if something annoys you, and someone asks what's wrong, tell them the truth, don't make them go and try to read your mind.
 
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only had 1 wife didint really pay attention to the others,but seems i always had to guess what was wrong and if i guessed wrong well i was accused of not listening to her ...what????
 

melita916

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I’ve always been a private person, so I had to learn to open with my husband. He can clearly see something is bothering me. He asks if I’m ok, and even though I’m not, I still say yes lol. In the beginning, it would take time for me to just tell him. Now, it doesn’t take as long. I’m still learning.
 

Lynx

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Yes we know it is not really nothing. But we also know you will not tell us what is bothering you until you are ready. In the meantime we choose to not waste time and effort bugging you to tell us something you will not tell us until you are good and ready.
 

Subhumanoidal

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I suspect women find men difficult to understand because often times they try to label all men under the same category.
I've definitely spoken to women that thought this way. But men don't all fit into one category. So if you attempt to define all men, easily, you'll end up confused.

Women. Men have a tendency to be more clear and direct in communication. Women are wired to communicate in hints and clues. Because women use subtlety to communicate it makes it difficult for men to understand because mens brains are not wired to work that way.
As a user above mentioned his ex practically expected him to be a mind reader, and I have experienced that as well. I once had a woman say "I was telling you to kiss me with my eyes". Uhhh... what???
Also women are more prone to connect topics in their mind that, on the surface, seem unrelated. So you ask how her day at work was and 10 mins later she's done talking and it went something like this...
Work was stressful... the dog needs food... the olympics... her friends new car... a sale at pottery barn... planning a vacation... she wants to get pregnant... what happened to a coworker today.
*blink blink
None of that seems connected, yet if you ask her she will be able to explain exactly how each topic is connected and how she jumped from one to the other. Things no one else would figure out, except maybe another woman. And even then that's not always true.

I'd have to say the more complicated a man is, there's a higher probability he's shady. Guys with nothing to hide are usually more straight forward.
 
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I suspect women find men difficult to understand because often times they try to label all men under the same category.
I've definitely spoken to women that thought this way. But men don't all fit into one category. So if you attempt to define all men, easily, you'll end up confused.

Women. Men have a tendency to be more clear and direct in communication. Women are wired to communicate in hints and clues. Because women use subtlety to communicate it makes it difficult for men to understand because mens brains are not wired to work that way.
As a user above mentioned his ex practically expected him to be a mind reader, and I have experienced that as well. I once had a woman say "I was telling you to kiss me with my eyes". Uhhh... what???
Also women are more prone to connect topics in their mind that, on the surface, seem unrelated. So you ask how her day at work was and 10 mins later she's done talking and it went something like this...
Work was stressful... the dog needs food... the olympics... her friends new car... a sale at pottery barn... planning a vacation... she wants to get pregnant... what happened to a coworker today.
*blink blink
None of that seems connected, yet if you ask her she will be able to explain exactly how each topic is connected and how she jumped from one to the other. Things no one else would figure out, except maybe another woman. And even then that's not always true.

I'd have to say the more complicated a man is, there's a higher probability he's shady. Guys with nothing to hide are usually more straight forward.
Also women are more prone to connect topics in their mind that, on the surface, seem unrelated. So you ask how her day at work was and 10 mins later she's done talking and it went something like this...
Work was stressful... the dog needs food... the olympics... her friends new car... a sale at pottery barn... planning a vacation... she wants to get pregnant... what happened to a coworker today.
*blink blink .....well this is offically my new best reply i have seen on cc
 

seoulsearch

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Why do men usually say (maybe jokingly or maybe not) women are complicated and not easy to understand? I don't get that. I think it's men that are difficult to understand lol. But then again, I am a woman so maybe that's why?

So men...why do you feel this way? Or are you one of the few men who do understand women? Tell us about it.

Women, do you find men difficult to get? Do you ask them for something and they still don't understand what it is you want?

In what ways could the sexes come together and communicate better with each other?
This is a great topic, LM.

The more time that goes by, the more I wonder how many miscommunications occur because people are simply used to handling things in different ways, and don't know or recognize that there are other ways to handle those same situations. I think many people also can't find the words to explain what they feel, or the person they're talking to doesn't understand what they're trying to say because they've either never experienced it, or have experienced it differently, which leads to the conflict ("You don't understand!!!")

I think men are socialized to hide or brush off their emotions, while women will process both their own and other's emotions right down to the last raise of an eyebrow. There are a myriad of other factors as well, such as someone who was raised in an abusive household where a person's true emotions had to be suppressed or hidden. If you put two people together and one has no experience with expressing/interpreting emotions, and yet the other one is constantly expressing and interpreting emotions, there is bound to be a serious level of miscommunications.

A while back, I was trying to make social plans in which a guy friend and I were going to meet up with another group of people. I had the trip all planned out one way while he had planned things a different way, and I couldn't understand why he didn't understand why I wanted to do things the way I had suggested. At one point, he pointedly asked me, "Why are you so oddly insistent on doing things that way?"

If that statement would have come from most anyone else, it would have been GAME ON and then some, because I honestly couldn't understand why HE didn't understand. My immediate thought was, "Well because that's just the way it should be!!!" Fortunately, we had enough of a history in our friendship that I took a few deep breaths before I answered :D, and knew that if he was asking, he wasn't just trying to push my buttons and honestly didn't know where I was coming from (but wanted to.)

To be perfectly honest, I had to step back and ask MYSELF why I wanted to do things that way too, and then I realized that he was approaching the situation from the perspective of convenience, shorter travel times, and lower cost, whereas I was immediately set on what might be safer, even though it cost a bit more. Eventually, we found a compromise, but if he wouldn't have given me some time and space to answer, it would have been a disaster.

That situation really taught me a lot about my own communication - if someone asks me, "What's wrong?" or "Why are you doing something that way?" and I can't answer immediately, it is NOT because I'm trying to be moody, petulant, or trying to force someone to read my mind.

Rather, it's usually because I have the emotions there but don't quite know how to put them into words - just yet. But if you'll give me a little time, patience, and a few gentle questions, I'll find the words (which will probably make you want to run in the other direction when I do.) :)

I've also found that writing is my default form of communication vs. speaking, so I might not actually be able to "TELL" you what's wrong, but I might write a 20-page letter about it and give it to you at a later time.

Sometimes I even have to ask God what's bothering me and why because I truly don't know, and then I have to ask Him how I can explain it to another person.

There's no doubt that communication is complicated. I personally suspect that a lot of frustrations people have today is because they feel something or want to express something, but they don't know how to understand why they feel what they do or how to get it out, which causes some people to EXplode, and others to IMplode - usually at other people.

Personally, I have always wished that I could be an artist, because I think artists are capable of expressing emotions far beyond words (after all, a picture is worth a thousand words.)

I once asked a young artistic co-worker to show me her drawings - her style was very much like "The Nightmare Before Christmas", but every person she drew, while original, had one thing in common - all the figures had their mouths stitched shut. Those pictures were telling their own story in volumes, but without words.

I wished, more than anything, that I could have drawn a picture back to her (so that I could communicate to her in her "own" language) that could tell her I understood and that she wasn't alone, because somehow just speaking the words to her, in my opinion, fell woefully short.
 

tourist

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only had 1 wife didint really pay attention to the others,but seems i always had to guess what was wrong and if i guessed wrong well i was accused of not listening to her ...what????
As a husband it is a good practice to nod your head when your wife is attempting to converse with you and to say that you're sorry and that it won't happen again.
 
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As a husband it is a good practice to nod your head when your wife is attempting to converse with you and to say that you're sorry and that it won't happen again.
yeah never learned that lesson in time was married for about 2 months ,was like subhumanoid reply just blinked and said good talkin to you.and when she said i think this isint going to work out, i just said ok ,make sure you lock the door on your way out, and got divorce papers 6 months later.but things worked out for the best today we are goods friends and have 2 great kids with her.
 

Lynx

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I think men are fairly easy to understand, like a dog is much better understood than a cat, because a dog is more honest.
Cats are not dishonest! You just can't read them as easily as a dumb dog. :p

Actually cats are just as easy to read. You just need to look at the right things - the disposition of the tail and ears mostly.
 

Mel85

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Women, do you find men difficult to get? Do you ask them for something and they still don't understand what it is you want?
I don’t find men difficult to get as per say because I’ve always been that girl to get along with most guys I come across. My best friend is a dude. I agree with most have said here so far that it’s all about helping the other understand and explain what you are trying to say - it’s not even about gender sometimes but how a person processes information in their head.

As Stranger pointed out, obviously men and women are wired differently which is the beauty between man and women and why God ordained these specific sexes to be with eachother, as outlined in Genesis when God saw that Adam needed a ‘helper’ so he created Eve.

Both sexes compliment each other in their own ways.
 
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My 2 centablos:


Generally speaking...

Men are more pragmatic. Their thinking is more practical, logical, deductive-reasoning, fact-finding..

Women are more intuitive. Their thinking is based more on their intuition, feelings, preceptions, emotions...


Bien? Bien.