Is repentance of sin necessary for salvation?

Perhaps you should read John 4, and Luke 7:1-10.
Moving forward.......

The topic --->"Is repentance of sin necessary for salvation?"
Not---> did Jesus preach repentance to Gentiles in the synoptic Gospels?

This is where Matthew 4:17 is applicable to the subject.

Hebrews 13:8
Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

Romans 3:29
Is He the God of the Jews only? is He not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also:

Again,
Did the Gentiles not receive the message of repentance?

Acts 20:21
I have declared to both Jews and Greeks that they must turn to God in repentance and have faith in our Lord Jesus.

I was looking for that verse.
Think about what you are implying Paul as saying.
Do you really think Paul was saying, he IS, currently or in the present tense, the worst, biggest, or chiefest of sinners?
If that be true, then why are we following a sinner to teach us about righteousness?
What a hypocrite! Having a sinner telling us how to live a godly life in Christ when he can't do it himself?
Do you go to the sick to learn how to get healed?
Or the poor on how to get wealth?
My point is, Paul is not saying he IS the worst of all sinners, but was referring to the time he persecuted the church.

1Co 15:8 And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.
1Co 15:9 For I am the least of the apostles, that am not meet to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.
1Co 15:10 But by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which was bestowed upon me was not in vain; but I laboured more abundantly than they all: yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me.

That thought never left him when writing his epistles, and so, while referring back to the time of his persecuting the church, he said he was the biggest or worst of sinners Jesus came into the world to save.
NOT that he is a sinner, but that he WAS one BEFORE Jesus saved him.
The subject is of Jesus saving sinners, not the righteous, and Paul is saying, when he was a sinner, he was the worst of all sinners, because of what he did to the church of God.

There's a difference between HAVING sin and BEING one.
The scripture you are referring to talks about us HAVING sin in us.
That doesn't make us sinners.
Sinners don't have the new bottle skins for the NEW WINE, but the righteous do.
Let me give you some example of what God has to say about sinners.

Gen_13:13 But the men of Sodom were wicked and sinners before the LORD exceedingly.

Psa_1:5 Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous.

Psa_26:9 Gather not my soul with sinners, nor my life with bloody men:

Psa_51:13 Then will I teach transgressors thy ways; and sinners shall be converted unto thee.

Pro_13:21 Evil pursueth sinners: but to the righteous good shall be repayed.

Mat_26:45 Then cometh he to his disciples, and saith unto them, Sleep on now, and take your rest: behold, the hour is at hand, and the Son of man is betrayed into the hands of sinners.

Joh_9:31 Now we know that God heareth not sinners: but if any man be a worshipper of God, and doeth his will, him he heareth.

Rom_5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

Rom_5:19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

The above are all examples of those who are living according to the sinful nature, the unrepentant. We as believers in Christ are sinners in that, we still have our sinful nature. This is why I included what John said:

"If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say we have not sinned, we make Him out to be a liar, and His word is not in us."

God sees us with the righteousness of Christ even though we still have sin. This is different from those who are willfully living according to the sinful nature. One is wrestling to overcome the sinful nature and the other is willfully living according to it.

I made myself very clear, so I don't know why you are responding as though I didn't.

We are covered sinners. As I said in a previous post, God sees us through the spectacles of Christ, even though we are still sinners. Since all sin has already been paid for on behalf of those who believe, then when we sin, if confess our sins, He is faithful to forgive us our sin and cleanse us of all unrighteousness.

But my point in all this, was in response to the one who said that he had no sin.

I see No Genuine Salvation without REPENTANCE. But you must understand, I see REPENTANCE as a work of the HOLY SPIRIT. HE causes DEEP REMORSE over our utterly sinful Lifestyle. AND creates in US as DESIRE to Honestly REPENT of our SINS. NEVER IS IT A WORK caused by self.

The Night that I was saved, I was overwhelmed by WAVE, after WAVE, after Wave, of DEEP REMORSE over my UTTERLY SINFUL LIFESTYLE. I fell to my KNEES, as I CRIED and Wept UNCONTROLLABLY, and blubbered out, "PLEASE FORGIVE, PLEASE FORGIVE ME! If You got a purpose for my life, You are going to have to come into it, and run my live, BECAUSE I CAN'T DO IT! I am making a total mess of it." I meant that pray with my WHOLE BEING, and no one ever taught me to pray like that in the Lutheran Church that I grew up in; I believe the Holy Spirit gave me that Prayer. I kept having that overwhelming GUILT come into my heart for 2 or 3 hours; as I continually cried out to HIM, "PLEASE FORGIVE ME, PLEASE FORGIVE!" That was after my third attempt at suicide in a week, but it was over my WHOLE LIFESTYLE, that I was Begging for Forgiveness. Why did it take 2 or 3 Hours? I am not sure, unless I it took time to repent, thereby recall ALL of a past SINS, THAT ARE an offense to HIM? So many SINS.

Near the END of that Wave, after Wave of GUILT, I was now Prone on my face, still begging for Forgiveness, I had a Vision, or had Fallen Asleep, and had a Vision or a DREAM. I cannot tell which, but if it was a Dream, it was the MOST VIVID Dream of my life. I was at the foot of the Cross, kneeing, as I reached up to HIM, STILL WEEPING AND CRYING, "Please Forgive Me, Please Forgive Me!" It was like every sin that I had ever committed was like putting an one pound weight on HIS arms, and there were SO MANY SINS, making HIS agony so much Greater. I remember I was looking up at the Nails, somewhat confused, as they were in the WRISTS, when the Lutheran Church taught they were in the Palms of the Hands. NO ONE EVER TAUGHT ME THAT IN THE PALMS THEY WOULD HAVE RIPPED RIGHT THROUGH THE FLESH, and that the JEWS considered the WRISTS to be Part of the Hands.

As I continued to cry and begging for Forgiveness, I SAW THE BLOOD DROPS FALL FROM THE NAILS, and they SLASHED on my Forearms, as I reached up to HIM. To my surprise the BLOOD FELT WARM on my Forearms! I KNEW I WAS FORGIVEN AT THAT MOMENT. That is where the Vision or Dream Ended.

That I know now was my Born Again experience. I was TRULY SAVED, and NONE OF IT Happened by my efforts, I was Forgiven, the Holy Spirit was in my Heart, He poured GOD's Love into my Heart (human spirit), Christ was IN ME, an HE was in control of my Life, and would NEVER LET GO!

Perhaps most believe and have argued that repentance of ones' sins is required for salvation, and at least myself, say otherwise.
I don't know if anyone else believes as I do.
I suppose the issue of repentance revolves around the subject of God's forgiveness for the sinner.
I believe repentance is not necessary for salvation but what side of the subject do the scriptures support?

Perhaps most believe and have argued that repentance of ones' sins is required for salvation, and at least myself, say otherwise.
I don't know if anyone else believes as I do.
I suppose the issue of repentance revolves around the subject of God's forgiveness for the sinner.
I believe repentance is not necessary for salvation but what side of the subject do the scriptures support?

Jesus said except ye repent he shall all likewise parish.

well what is one being saved from? if not from the eternal consequence of sin? And Why would we be told in the word of God to "Repent" 46 times?

Jesus said to do so in Matt 4:17 Mar 1:5 Luke 13:5 Luke 17

the Apostles preached repent

Acts 3:19 Acts 8:22 Acts 26:20

Finally Jesus again in REV 2:5 Rev 2:22

Repentance is a gift not a requirement.


Acts 11:18 King James Version (KJV)
18 When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.

You, as well as some others, are associating repentance to sinful works of the law only.
Repent, doesn't just mean to stop sinning, it means to change one's mind or to think differently, to reconsider. (Strong and Thayer)
What if someone doesn't believe the gospel?
One could say, repent of your ways or from doubting, and believe the gospel. Mar 1:15
Consider this one thing, if you will.
If you are before a court of law, and you swear to tell the truth, the WHOLE truth, and nothing but the truth, yet omit part of the truth, did you still tell the truth?
Is omission of a truth, basically a fabrication of a lie, misleading, and deceptive?
Lying by omission is when a person leaves out important information or fails to correct a pre-existing misconception in order to hide the truth from others.
Now think about what Paul said in Romans 10:8-10, how to receive salvation.
According to our laws and basic reasoning, omission is the same as lying.
If Paul failed to tell us to repent of our sinful works before we come to Christ, did he tell the whole truth, or did he mislead us by omitting part of a truth?
It is apparent however, one must come to God to confess Christ as their personal savior.
You don't have to repent of your sins of the law, but you still have to come to God with your heart, to pray to Him.
Paul never tells the sinner to repent of their sins first, before they come to Christ, but He does tell them they must confess Jesus as lord when they believe that in their heart.
Salvation occurs when one believes the gospel in their heart and confesses that with their mouth. No repentance of one's dead work to receive forgiveness and salvation.
They just need to believe the gospel with a corresponding act.
Did he fail to tell the whole truth by neglecting to mention a person must first repent of their sins before coming to Christ?