The house of Israel

What is the House of Israel? We understand that the Nation of Israel was God's favored nation in the old testament and that all Israel was not of Israel. God denounced the nation of Israel due to their unfaithfulness and gave it to the Gentiles. The house of Israel, which seems to be representative of God's elect, because God changed Jacob's name to be called no more Jacob, but to be called Israel (Gen 32:28). I am asking for the help and input from the members of this forum about this concept, sense I have not done an in-depth study on this concept. God choose Jacob over Esau to show that his elect might stand. God instructed his apostles to go preach to the "lost sheep" of "the house of Israel, which is Jacob (God's elect). If they are sheep, then they have already been given eternal life, but they do not know that the "kingdom of heaven" (Christ's church) is at hand. It would seem to me that when the scriptures talk about Israel, they are referring to Jacob who is representative of God's elect. Isaiah 46:3 - Hearken unto me, O house of Jacob, and all the remnant of the house of Israel, which are borne by me from the belly, which are carried from the womb: Heb 8:10 - For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel (Jacob), after those days sayeth the Lord, I will put my laws into their minds, and write them in their hearts; and I will be unto them a God, and they shall be unto me a people. Awaiting your input.

What is the House of Israel? We understand that the Nation of Israel was God's favored nation in the old testament and that all Israel was not of Israel. God denounced the nation of Israel due to their unfaithfulness and gave it to the Gentiles. The house of Israel, which seems to be representative of God's elect, because God changed Jacob's name to be called no more Jacob, but to be called Israel (Gen 32:28). I am asking for the help and input from the members of this forum about this concept, sense I have not done an in-depth study on this concept. God choose Jacob over Esau to show that his elect might stand. God instructed his apostles to go preach to the "lost sheep" of "the house of Israel, which is Jacob (God's elect). If they are sheep, then they have already been given eternal life, but they do not know that the "kingdom of heaven" (Christ's church) is at hand. It would seem to me that when the scriptures talk about Israel, they are referring to Jacob who is representative of God's elect. Isaiah 46:3 - Hearken unto me, O house of Jacob, and all the remnant of the house of Israel, which are borne by me from the belly, which are carried from the womb: Heb 8:10 - For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel (Jacob), after those days sayeth the Lord, I will put my laws into their minds, and write them in their hearts; and I will be unto them a God, and they shall be unto me a people. Awaiting your input.

What is the House of Israel? We understand that the Nation of Israel was God's favored nation in the old testament and that all Israel was not of Israel. God denounced the nation of Israel due to their unfaithfulness and gave it to the Gentiles. The house of Israel, which seems to be representative of God's elect, because God changed Jacob's name to be called no more Jacob, but to be called Israel (Gen 32:28). I am asking for the help and input from the members of this forum about this concept, sense I have not done an in-depth study on this concept. God choose Jacob over Esau to show that his elect might stand. God instructed his apostles to go preach to the "lost sheep" of "the house of Israel, which is Jacob (God's elect). If they are sheep, then they have already been given eternal life, but they do not know that the "kingdom of heaven" (Christ's church) is at hand. It would seem to me that when the scriptures talk about Israel, they are referring to Jacob who is representative of God's elect. Isaiah 46:3 - Hearken unto me, O house of Jacob, and all the remnant of the house of Israel, which are borne by me from the belly, which are carried from the womb: Heb 8:10 - For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel (Jacob), after those days sayeth the Lord, I will put my laws into their minds, and write them in their hearts; and I will be unto them a God, and they shall be unto me a people. Awaiting your input.

Since we know the true word for Mercy means Mercies, we now know that Abraham till Yeshua arrived were ALL SAVED by the ENDLESS MERCIES of God.

When Yeshua was on Earth, He instructed those who listened that He was here for the SOLE PURPOSE of God's Mercy.

So, at His Crucifixion, the Mercy of God was unleashed upon the Hebrew Heritage.
Also, at His Crucifixion, the Grace of God was unleashed upon the Gentile Heritage.

So here, we have MERCY and GRACE acting in the SAME MANNER!!

Now that we know God unleashed His MERCY upon the Hebrew Heritage at the Crucifixion, we know that God has also RESTORED ISRAEL.

We know this by 1947, by 10 million Jews now living in Israel after being scattered, by them returning to their Heritage and Traditions under the Mosaic Law, by those Heritage who converted unto Yeshua as Messianic Jews, and we know by them having EVERY PIECE of the Temple built...they are just waiting to be able to assemble it and commence Daily Sacrifice.

Daniel speaks clearly about Daily Sacrifice in Chapter 12. When Daily Sacrifice ENDS...this is when we know the antichrist rules.

So therefore, I disagree God has completely disregarded His Chosen People. He has them in place for End Time Events. The setting for Revelation's Chapter 12 is in place. We just now need God to decide, this is the DAY I begin the Final Count Down!!

Not sure I can follow what all you are trying to say here. You throw a lot of ideas together and melt it all into one long paragraph with unclear connections. But, anyway, I have been an English teacher, so enough of my English lecture! . . .

So I will just make a few comments.

It seems like you are saying that the "house of Israel" is something different from "Israel"? And then that the "house of Israel" is the same as "Jacob" and then that Jacob is "representative of God's elect" - so then I think you are saying that the "house of Israel is God's elect which is the church".

I am very, very leary of pulling together a string of this means this because in this Scripture it means that but in that Scripture that means this and hence in the first Scripture this means that . . . you are probably confused now - and so you should be . . . .

I am quite a simpleton when it comes to Scripture interpretation: just read it and take it face value literally unless the literal makes no sense:

so Heb. 8: 9,10 for example:

9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.

10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

He says "house of Israel" here so if it makes sense to take it as literally Israel then take it as such. Well verse 9 very clearly is linking it to literally Israel, so we cannot change verse 10 to some sort of "spiritual Israel". Verse 10 simply means what it says. Sometime (after those days) the Jews will have the law of God in their hearts and will once again worship God and be His people.

Not sure I can follow what all you are trying to say here. You throw a lot of ideas together and melt it all into one long paragraph with unclear connections. But, anyway, I have been an English teacher, so enough of my English lecture! . . .

So I will just make a few comments.

It seems like you are saying that the "house of Israel" is something different from "Israel"? And then that the "house of Israel" is the same as "Jacob" and then that Jacob is "representative of God's elect" - so then I think you are saying that the "house of Israel is God's elect which is the church".

I am very, very leary of pulling together a string of this means this because in this Scripture it means that but in that Scripture that means this and hence in the first Scripture this means that . . . you are probably confused now - and so you should be . . . .

I am quite a simpleton when it comes to Scripture interpretation: just read it and take it face value literally unless the literal makes no sense:

so Heb. 8: 9,10 for example:

9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.

10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

He says "house of Israel" here so if it makes sense to take it as literally Israel then take it as such. Well verse 9 very clearly is linking it to literally Israel, so we cannot change verse 10 to some sort of "spiritual Israel". Verse 10 simply means what it says. Sometime (after those days) the Jews will have the law of God in their hearts and will once again worship God and be His people.

Do you understand that Jesus only died for those that God gave him? Who do you think the ones that he died for are and do you think they will all be in heaven? I believe those that God gave him are his elect.

Since we know the true word for Mercy means Mercies, we now know that Abraham till Yeshua arrived were ALL SAVED by the ENDLESS MERCIES of God.

When Yeshua was on Earth, He instructed those who listened that He was here for the SOLE PURPOSE of God's Mercy.

So, at His Crucifixion, the Mercy of God was unleashed upon the Hebrew Heritage.
Also, at His Crucifixion, the Grace of God was unleashed upon the Gentile Heritage.

So here, we have MERCY and GRACE acting in the SAME MANNER!!

Now that we know God unleashed His MERCY upon the Hebrew Heritage at the Crucifixion, we know that God has also RESTORED ISRAEL.

We know this by 1947, by 10 million Jews now living in Israel after being scattered, by them returning to their Heritage and Traditions under the Mosaic Law, by those Heritage who converted unto Yeshua as Messianic Jews, and we know by them having EVERY PIECE of the Temple built...they are just waiting to be able to assemble it and commence Daily Sacrifice.

Daniel speaks clearly about Daily Sacrifice in Chapter 12. When Daily Sacrifice ENDS...this is when we know the antichrist rules.

So therefore, I disagree God has completely disregarded His Chosen People. He has them in place for End Time Events. The setting for Revelation's Chapter 12 is in place. We just now need God to decide, this is the DAY I begin the Final Count Down!!

The temple was destroyed then rebuilt under the Persian empire......then destroyed again under the Roman Iron empire......70 AD
But the Book of Daniel basically tells all of Global history to an extent.....
The only problem is its chronologically all mixed up with little indication given when it jumps from the actions of one actor to another.....or transgressor desolator to another and then it repeats the same transgressor desolator twice in different chapters and twice in the same chapter in some.
It would actually be more chronologically. Correct if some of the chapters were taken apart and the same actor put together in its own chapter..... So......
I understand that the interuption of the sacrifice is commonly referred to as the antichrist of tribulation....
But through history there has been the two temple destructions and those transgressor desolators were prototype so to speak or foreshadow antichrists because they both cut off the daily sacrifice Babylonian and Roman.......so....the littlehorn blasphemer beast kingdom of
Daniel 7.....25.....is not the final antichrist......it is the mixing of the Iron ( Rome ) and Clay ( Christianity ) Roman Catholic Church STATE ( 538 Justinian decree division of Roman empire ) and the times times and half times = 1260 yrs....
To 1798 Napoleon arrested Pope ...." head removed deadly wound that is survived"
Pope exiled until death....
Then in 8 it goes back to Persia and Greece warring
BUT..... 8-13,14......tells us when the temple will be CLEANSED ( God/CHRIST ) back on the throne
************2300 yrs**********
2370 ?????.........
Dan 11 is Napoleon being defeated by The Ottoman Caliphate Kings North South Egypt.....
So my question to you is which verses exactly tell us the temple is rebuilt and the sacrifice is again cut off in the middle by the tribulation antichrist ? And Daniel not repeating again the Roman transgression desolation.



Your statement that the chosen people aren't disregarded is correct the Gentiles are the adopted new covenant !!!
The Jew aren't cut off as dead vineage at all just because orthodox Judaism rejects Christ.....means nothing in fact.....it is written when they will be converted.....
Zechariah 12; 9,10
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CONVERSION THEY WILL LOOK UPON ( ME ) whom they PIERCED......and WEEP
I WILL POUR OUT THE SPIRIT OF SUPPLICATIONS AND GRACE UPON THE HOUSE OF DAVID AND JERUSALEM

THIS IS GOD......saying to Zech.
They will PIERCE ME before Christ was born.....
IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THE NAME OF THE PROPHECY OR BOOK 12.....
" THE BURDEN OF ISRAEL"
All we have to do is look there......

The Jew were only confounded by God for predetermination to fulfill prophecy and his will and purpose......basicly God planned his own death and ressurection as we all know if we aren't a confounded Jew.
Or some other abomination.
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I am asking for the help and input from the members of this forum about this concept, sense I have not done an in-depth study on this concept.

"The house of Israel" is literally the house or nation or kingdom of Israel under Christ.

The New Covenant was originally given to Israel (the twelve tribes descended from Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob), and the Church (which began with saved Jews) also comes under the New Covenant. Gentiles were grafted into the good olive tree of believing Israel (the believing remnant).

But after the second coming of Christ, God will gather all the Jews from around the world, and bring them to the land of Israel, so that they may ultimately bow their knees to their true Messiah. Study the prophecy of Ezekiel and all the other prophets, along with what is revealed in the New Testament.

But only 1/3rd will be saved and be settled in the land of Israel (which will at that time extend from the Nile to the Euphrates). God will redeem and restore Israel by His grace, but those who enter the Millennial Kingdom will all need to repent and be converted. They will weep, and wail, and mourn and then accept their King-Messiah Jesus of Nazareth. They will then be regenerated.

The house of Israel must not be confused with the Church. Therefore we have a microcosm of the house of Israel before the throne of God in Revelation 7 (the 144,000 redeemed Israelites) alongside the Church in Heaven. Which means that God has an eternal plan and purposes for BOTH Israel and the Church (whose eternal home is the New Jerusalem).

"The house of Israel" is literally the house or nation or kingdom of Israel under Christ.

The New Covenant was originally given to Israel (the twelve tribes descended from Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob), and the Church (which began with saved Jews) also comes under the New Covenant. Gentiles were grafted into the good olive tree of believing Israel (the believing remnant).

But after the second coming of Christ, God will gather all the Jews from around the world, and bring them to the land of Israel, so that they may ultimately bow their knees to their true Messiah. Study the prophecy of Ezekiel and all the other prophets, along with what is revealed in the New Testament.

But only 1/3rd will be saved and be settled in the land of Israel (which will at that time extend from the Nile to the Euphrates). God will redeem and restore Israel by His grace, but those who enter the Millennial Kingdom will all need to repent and be converted. They will weep, and wail, and mourn and then accept their King-Messiah Jesus of Nazareth. They will then be regenerated.

The house of Israel must not be confused with the Church. Therefore we have a microcosm of the house of Israel before the throne of God in Revelation 7 (the 144,000 redeemed Israelites) alongside the Church in Heaven. Which means that God has an eternal plan and purposes for BOTH Israel and the Church (whose eternal home is the New Jerusalem).

Do you believe that God has an elect people, if so, who are they and what scriptures uphold that fact?