Amen....and yet the Marine in me hahahaha and as a believer seeks to defend her honor and her stance 
Did you agree to this post below by Budman or not?
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So what is your stance about lying to the Holy Spirit?
Did you agree to this post below by Budman or not?
Did you agree to this post below by Budman or not?
I am glad you recognise the need to deal with the subject of sin and repentance.
It is grevious that you suggest this is a droning on about subject.
I would suggest you would equally criticise that most of scripture talks about sin
and our need to resolve it, which is authored by God.
It demonstrates the ability of some to foolishly devalue the judgement that is coming
because of sin and the final destination of sinners and evil doers.
This is such a serious matter that some believers continually miss-understand
19 The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery;
20 idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions
21 and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.
galatians 5:19-23
So those who live in sin and follows its ways will not inherit the Kingdom of God.
I wonder therefore are there people who wish to declare Gods word is wrong?
It is grevious that you suggest this is a droning on about subject.
I would suggest you would equally criticise that most of scripture talks about sin
and our need to resolve it, which is authored by God.
It demonstrates the ability of some to foolishly devalue the judgement that is coming
because of sin and the final destination of sinners and evil doers.
This is such a serious matter that some believers continually miss-understand
19 The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery;
20 idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions
21 and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.
galatians 5:19-23
So those who live in sin and follows its ways will not inherit the Kingdom of God.
I wonder therefore are there people who wish to declare Gods word is wrong?
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Here is the fallacy of those who wish to criticise perfectionists, though I am not one.
All sin is forgiven, so being a sinner but having faith in the past at sometime, all sin
can be just ignored and its consequence which is why to even mention it is called droning
on about it.
Some have suggested in the past, people are lowering the standard of sin. I would say abandoning
any sensitivity to evil and wickedness is the capitulation to lawlessness.
And worse still abandoning judgement on sinners is saying the enemy of God has now become
victorious.
Now I have read people claim this is a lie and a slander about abandoning any consequences to sin.
It is only a slander if people react appropriately in repentance and sorrow regarding any known sin
they are committing and have a commitment to avoid repeating the same and walk in Gods ways.
All sin is forgiven, so being a sinner but having faith in the past at sometime, all sin
can be just ignored and its consequence which is why to even mention it is called droning
on about it.
Some have suggested in the past, people are lowering the standard of sin. I would say abandoning
any sensitivity to evil and wickedness is the capitulation to lawlessness.
And worse still abandoning judgement on sinners is saying the enemy of God has now become
victorious.
Now I have read people claim this is a lie and a slander about abandoning any consequences to sin.
It is only a slander if people react appropriately in repentance and sorrow regarding any known sin
they are committing and have a commitment to avoid repeating the same and walk in Gods ways.
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Let me change the way I can comment on such an idea.
If one has no desire to walk in the ways of Jesus, is one saved at all?
There are struggles all followers of Jesus have, but their loyalty and aim is with their Lord.
How do we know what our true motives or faith until we discover whether through trials
and tests we have shown we are people of God and worthy of His calling.
It seems some want to claim they have crossed from death to life, and abiding in death
would not deny this ever happened in the first place.
I know how worried and anxious people get, but it is through knowing Jesus and His
heart and will that these worries are put in their appropriate place. It is not our behaviour
that determines our destination or reality, it is how this behaviour demonstrates what is
in ones heart, and how the word of God dwells there or not.
Our true reality in Christ is written in the lambs book of life and no where else.
We become children of heaven and not the enemy, so to defend walking in wickedness is
not a sign of failure creates a fallacy towards what salvation and being born again means.
If one has no desire to walk in the ways of Jesus, is one saved at all?
There are struggles all followers of Jesus have, but their loyalty and aim is with their Lord.
How do we know what our true motives or faith until we discover whether through trials
and tests we have shown we are people of God and worthy of His calling.
It seems some want to claim they have crossed from death to life, and abiding in death
would not deny this ever happened in the first place.
I know how worried and anxious people get, but it is through knowing Jesus and His
heart and will that these worries are put in their appropriate place. It is not our behaviour
that determines our destination or reality, it is how this behaviour demonstrates what is
in ones heart, and how the word of God dwells there or not.
Our true reality in Christ is written in the lambs book of life and no where else.
We become children of heaven and not the enemy, so to defend walking in wickedness is
not a sign of failure creates a fallacy towards what salvation and being born again means.
Your ears are death , only the Holy Spirit of God can open them...
You do not have a teachable spirit , you lean on your OWN ego
After pride comes a mighty fall
Submit to the LORD , be humble before God , and as you fall from your high pedestal , the LORD our God will catch you as you fall , if you have a humble and contrite heart...xox...
You do not have a teachable spirit , you lean on your OWN ego
After pride comes a mighty fall
Submit to the LORD , be humble before God , and as you fall from your high pedestal , the LORD our God will catch you as you fall , if you have a humble and contrite heart...xox...
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Conditional gifts, and responsibility.
9 Go to the street corners and invite to the banquet anyone you find.'
10 So the servants went out into the streets and gathered all the people they could find, both good and bad, and the wedding hall was filled with guests.
11 "But when the king came in to see the guests, he noticed a man there who was not wearing wedding clothes.
12 'Friend,' he asked, 'how did you get in here without wedding clothes?' The man was speechless.
13 "Then the king told the attendants, 'Tie him hand and foot, and throw him outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.'
14 "For many are invited, but few are chosen."
Matt 22:9-14
We are called to the wedding feast of the King.
But those who are unprepared will be thrown out.
9 Go to the street corners and invite to the banquet anyone you find.'
10 So the servants went out into the streets and gathered all the people they could find, both good and bad, and the wedding hall was filled with guests.
11 "But when the king came in to see the guests, he noticed a man there who was not wearing wedding clothes.
12 'Friend,' he asked, 'how did you get in here without wedding clothes?' The man was speechless.
13 "Then the king told the attendants, 'Tie him hand and foot, and throw him outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.'
14 "For many are invited, but few are chosen."
Matt 22:9-14
We are called to the wedding feast of the King.
But those who are unprepared will be thrown out.
It's you who changes the definition of words in order to accommodate your self righteous works system.
The proper fear of God is fear of offending God, godly respect, reverence for Him.
Strong's Concordance
theosebeia: fear of God
Original Word: θεοσέβεια, ας, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: theosebeia
Phonetic Spelling: (theh-os-eb'-i-ah)
Definition: fear of God
Usage: reverence for God, fear of God, godliness, piety.
HELPS Word-studies
Cognate: 2317 theosébeia – properly, God-fearing (veneration); godly respect, reverence (used only in 1 Tim 2:10). See 2318 (theosebēs).
https://biblehub.com/greek/2317.htm
Prior to my conversion, while still attending the Roman Catholic church several years ago, I basically saw God as a tyrant who couldn't wait to punish me every time I messed up. That is an unhealthy fear!
2 Timothy 1:7 - For God has not given us a spirit of fear/timidity, but of power and of love and of a sound mind.
Repent does mean a change of mind. I see that you still have not repented (changed your mind) and placed your faith (belief, trust, reliance) in Jesus Christ alone for salvation. It's a shame that human pride will not allow you to repent and believe the gospel.
Strong's Concordance
metanoia: change of mind, repentance
Original Word: μετάνοια, ας, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: metanoia
Phonetic Spelling: (met-an'-oy-ah)
Definition: change of mind, repentance
Usage: repentance, a change of mind, change in the inner man.
HELPS Word-studies
Cognate: 3341 metánoia – literally, "a change of mind" ("after-thought"); repentance. See 3340 /metanoeō ("repent").
https://biblehub.com/greek/3341.htm
Many works-salvationists change repent to "moral self-reformation" and extremists who teach sinless perfection and are suffering from a terminal case of self righteousness change repent to "completely stop sinning."
You have not even obeyed the gospel (Romans 10:16) so beyond that, obedience to everything God says is futile for you. There is a difference between obeying God/doing God's will in order to become saved: John 6:40 - For My Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in Him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.
AND obeying God/doing God's will after we have been saved: 1 Thessalonians 5:14 - Now we exhort you, brethren, warn those who are unruly, comfort the fainthearted, uphold the weak, be patient with all. 15 See that no one renders evil for evil to anyone, but always pursue what is good both for yourselves and for all. 16 Rejoice always, 17 pray without ceasing, 18 in everything give thanks; for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you.
The proper fear of God is fear of offending God, godly respect, reverence for Him.
Strong's Concordance
theosebeia: fear of God
Original Word: θεοσέβεια, ας, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: theosebeia
Phonetic Spelling: (theh-os-eb'-i-ah)
Definition: fear of God
Usage: reverence for God, fear of God, godliness, piety.
HELPS Word-studies
Cognate: 2317 theosébeia – properly, God-fearing (veneration); godly respect, reverence (used only in 1 Tim 2:10). See 2318 (theosebēs).
https://biblehub.com/greek/2317.htm
Prior to my conversion, while still attending the Roman Catholic church several years ago, I basically saw God as a tyrant who couldn't wait to punish me every time I messed up. That is an unhealthy fear!
2 Timothy 1:7 - For God has not given us a spirit of fear/timidity, but of power and of love and of a sound mind.
Repent does mean a change of mind. I see that you still have not repented (changed your mind) and placed your faith (belief, trust, reliance) in Jesus Christ alone for salvation. It's a shame that human pride will not allow you to repent and believe the gospel.
Strong's Concordance
metanoia: change of mind, repentance
Original Word: μετάνοια, ας, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: metanoia
Phonetic Spelling: (met-an'-oy-ah)
Definition: change of mind, repentance
Usage: repentance, a change of mind, change in the inner man.
HELPS Word-studies
Cognate: 3341 metánoia – literally, "a change of mind" ("after-thought"); repentance. See 3340 /metanoeō ("repent").
https://biblehub.com/greek/3341.htm
Many works-salvationists change repent to "moral self-reformation" and extremists who teach sinless perfection and are suffering from a terminal case of self righteousness change repent to "completely stop sinning."
You have not even obeyed the gospel (Romans 10:16) so beyond that, obedience to everything God says is futile for you. There is a difference between obeying God/doing God's will in order to become saved: John 6:40 - For My Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in Him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.
AND obeying God/doing God's will after we have been saved: 1 Thessalonians 5:14 - Now we exhort you, brethren, warn those who are unruly, comfort the fainthearted, uphold the weak, be patient with all. 15 See that no one renders evil for evil to anyone, but always pursue what is good both for yourselves and for all. 16 Rejoice always, 17 pray without ceasing, 18 in everything give thanks; for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you.
The deceiver will always put an inch of truth in his subjects way , covered by the twisted lies...
Thank the LORD he warned us about satan's workers , the wolves in sheeps clothing...xox...
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Why do we repent?
Because we hate evil and what it does.
Our motivation is not salvation, our motivation is we want life and good things
not wickedness.
It seems some have a version of faith that has no problems with sin and evil
and would happily carry on as they are, especially if this includes salvation.
Because we hate evil and what it does.
Our motivation is not salvation, our motivation is we want life and good things
not wickedness.
It seems some have a version of faith that has no problems with sin and evil
and would happily carry on as they are, especially if this includes salvation.
Okay, so you even have a list of need, and not need to do's. That's it. You disgrace my God , and you've literally caused me to believe that you are here to torment and arrogantly argue to promote disarray.
Well since you're so certain I have no hope in my beliefs, I guess it won't hurt me much to tell you **profanity removed**
Now go be obedient and pray for me or something.
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