Talking to the dead.

Somehow this is going off track, my argument was with Mr. AxelRod who argued that studies have shown capital punishment does not act as a deterrent.

My response to him was those studies are flawed.

I am not disagreeing with you, I agree with you.

I believe the death can not communicate with the living.

Imagine if my dad was professor when he alive, now he is dead, he was good in biology, every time I take biology exam. My dad will tell me the answer.

If I am a doctor and he was, every time I have a difficult patient my dad soul go to their body and tell me what is wrong.

the dead cannot communicate with the living,
but, those that imitate them most certainly can
and sadly, do...

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I have been tired for a long time now. Sorry about the misunderstanding.

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I know the feeling, lots of coffee does the trick.

Yep, I use to have an Indonesian catholic discussion friend. He convince always communicate with certain saint. I forget the name of saint that always talk to him when ever he have a problem.

He believe that saint love him very much.

When people are talking to the dead they are NOT talking to the dead.. They are talking to demonic spirits masqurading as the dead... That's why we are told in the Bible not to seek to make contact with the dead..

He didnt kill anyone, he was inncoent, the death penalty was given to him cos the people accused him of blasphemy, that was the charge for which he was crucified, that he was the son of God and the Messiah.

JEsus didnt deny this.

Anyway, no matter he proved that what he was saying was the truth when he rose from the dead.

You can talk to the people who are dying...as Jesus did on the cross to one of the others who was being crucified with him. But he couldnt talk to him if he was already dead, well that would be a bit pointless because the dead cant answer. You might as well be talking to thin air.

Please, dont waste your time. What is there to be gained by it? If the loved one is no longer there, why not talk to others who are grieving too and comfort them instead.

Do angels visit heaven daily?

Is there anything forbidding an angel from talking to saints in heaven.

Can those who recently died talk to others in heaven?

My mom died in January... I told my son, we miss her but she does not miss us... My mom is no shadow of a doubt SAVED!!!! My mom has no clue about what happens o Earth if the Bible is true and no sadness in heaven... The point is if someone is communicating with the dead, it is a familiar spirit posing as the dead... the dead are dead!!!! Someone not saved that died... dead is dead... They are I HELL... again a familiar spirit posing as them....

If people would just know their Bible they would KNOW THE TRUTH!!!! ALL 66BOOKS!!!!

I love the living, because I can know them, share with them and relate.
Primarily I know when they are telling me the truth and where they get their information from.

Get into spirits and it all goes out the window.
Nothing trustworthy, nothing reliable, nothing of value, except sinning against the Lord and
some crazy idea talking with someone who has died will make it better?

Do angels visit heaven daily?

Is there anything forbidding an angel from talking to saints in heaven.

Can those who recently died talk to others in heaven?

A good animated movie that shows the working of necromancy the Catholics foundation is called Coco. (Walt Disney)

It could be used as a good teaching school as a warning of what not to do seeing it is a abomination to seek after workers with familiar spirits that some must call patron saints. The whole nine yards is revealed .To include a teraphim a family center of image idols where a image is needed to put a face on the legion, when the father of lies and his army of lying Spirits come up he always comes up as legion (many gods) .In this way a face an be added to these disembodied workers with familiar spirits of lies.

No image means the person never existed. This puts the authority on the things seen .Catholicism in a nut shell .

We seek after the things not seen after "one manner" and not manners as in flesh and blood as if it rudiments of this world could ever enter the kingdom of God .Why worship or hallow men by which they call the venerable as in manners, plural ….3500 and rising.

Matthew 6:9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.

I have no idea how that answers my questions.

Do angels visit heaven daily?

Is there anything forbidding an angel from talking to saints in heaven.

Can those who recently died talk to others in heaven?

after Samuel died he talked to Saul.

That's the exception.. God allowed it and Samuel condemned Saul for doing it and God allowed Saul to be killed in battle right after he contacted Samuel.

Sorry The movie reminded me of our Catholic brothers and sisters, a copy of many oral traditions of the Catholic fathers that speak of seeking after workers with familiar spirits to commune those we cannot see or what as a tradition of fathers have renamed patron saints.

Angelos simply means “one who brings a message speaking on behalf of God Almighty. It does not mean invisible ones or that visible. Two kinds of angels (messengers) as sons of God. Those not seen and those seen. Saints on earth that hold out the gospel of Christ are considered angels as well as those not seen messengers. Like those our father in heaven sent to strength Christ and finish the work of salvation as a promised mutual work of two (father and Son= peace of God surpasses all human understanding) . Human kind are the kind we are to be careful when entertaining . God could use you if you are a believer to bring his gospel message as it is written or some one bring you his message working with both as Christian communication. I think tongues was used in that way when God was still adding to His book of prophecy.

Angels are administering spirits sent from God. It is there one function. I do think they visit heaven. Heaven is the place God sends his messages (gospel) from.

There is no communing with dead saints. Necromancy an abomination is forbidden

Our Father in heaven(not seen) is the sole person we can commune by faith as the very source .

To have saints stand in that Holy unseen place is described as the abomination of desecration. Again one manner in which we are to seek after the spiritual things not seen; "this manner" (not manners plural) Not hallowed be our dead brothers, sisters, fathers, and mother, uncles and aunts or any relative as a familiar spirit one feels is worthy off communing with.

The foundation of Catholisicim (no faith) in God coming from God alone but have a multitude of gods as disembodied spirts called a legion / 3, 500 and rising, available patron saints and the idol images needed to put a face on each for a few dollars.

Again one manner. Even Jesus as the Son of man refused to be a fleshly mediator between man seen and God not seen (daysman Job 9: 32-33) God is not a man as us.. When called good master knowing no man can serve two masters , Jesus said; Only God is good in reference to our father as master in heaven. heaven the Holy place of His un-seen glory, you could say our light.. The one manner available. Again not manners as a legion

After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.Mathew 6:9

Not Hallow or Venerate the legion of what some call patron saints which the non venerable Catholic are required to do as their source of faith .

Catholisicim simply follows another manner of spirit as not walking by the faith of Christ as that not seen that alone comes from hearing God not seen. God rejects all worship in respect to the things seen. Catholisicim like the unbelieving Jew turned that upside down to take away the understanding of faith, of God, not of men.

Isaiah 29:16 Surely your turning of things upside down shall be esteemed as the potter's clay: for shall the work say of him that made it, He made me not? or shall the thing framed say of him that framed it, He had no understanding?

He had no understanding making the word of God without efect.?

The saints are al sleep and will all be awaken by the same wake up call. Rise and receive your promised new incorruptible bodies .

Those that have died and have a new born again spirit that will rise on the last day (the wake up call) The moment they left this realm under the sun it becomes universal Alzheimer's. There memories of the things on earth are gone never to come to their minds again. I would be careful on how we can hear God.

exactly, the Most High can do anything He wills. i wouldnt be teaching the dead do not talk to the living when the dead do talk to the living in the bible.
Saul was never condemned for talking to the dead, he was cut off from the Most High, and that divine knowledge, and he tried to get information from the Most High anyway.
also important, Saul had no interest in speaking to Samuel, he only cared about the knowledge Samuel had access to.