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BillG

BillG

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YourTruthGod said:
Salvation had not happened when the jailer believed; for if it had, he would not have asked that question he asked, he would have been saved immediately, according to your mistaken beliefs.
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You posted the above.

I responded with

The jailer asked the question

Acts 16:30-34
30 And he brought them out and said, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?”
31 So they said, “Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved, you and your household.” 32 Then they spoke the word of the Lord to him and to all who were in his house. 33 And he took them the same hour of the night and washed their stripes. And immediately he and all his family were baptized. 34 Now when he had brought them into his house, he set food before them; and he rejoiced, having believed in God with all his household.

And the answer was given in V31.

So according to V31 he was saved when he believed.

So he asked the question first and was given the answer.

He repented of the sin of unbelief
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Yet to see a response to the above.

Why have you ignored it:unsure:
 
BillG

BillG

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YourTruthGod said:
See Acts 10:44, Acts 11:15, Acts 16: 32 Then they spoke the word of the Lord to him and to all the others in his house. 33 At that hour of the night the jailer took them and washed their wounds; then immediately he and all his household were baptized.

Did you hear that?

They had to hear the message that saves and it is the message that says to repent of your sins.
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You say above

I responded with

Acts 10:44-48

The Holy Spirit Falls on the Gentiles
44 While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit fell upon all those who heard the word. 45 And those of the circumcision who believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out on the Gentiles also. 46 For they heard them speak with tongues and magnify God.
Then Peter answered, 47 “Can anyone forbid water, that these should not be baptized who have received the Holy Spirit just as we have?” 48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then they asked him to stay a few days.

Acts 11:15
15 And as I began to speak, the Holy Spirit fell upon them, as upon us at the beginning.

Acts 16:32
32 Then they spoke the word of the Lord to him and to all who were in his house.

So given the above verses which you quote as state the message in said verses is saying we need to repent of our sins, what are those sins?

Because I can't see what you are seeing.

Unless it has to do with baptism.

All of the above verses you quoted either contain baptism or the ones following mention baptism.
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Yet to see a response to the above either.

I wonder why:unsure:

DID YOU HEAR THAT?:cool:
 
TruthTalk

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Budman said:
Pal, I can go back and quote just what you wrote today and anyone could see you are sounding more like
a David Koresh or Jim Jones than a follower of Christ.
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Hi Budman, we need to continually call "YourTruthGod", exactly what he is, namely a "Charlatan and a Fraud." as he has self proclaim his "Special Reverlation right here."

Blessings from God our Father

YourTruthGod said:
God has revealed things to me that most don't know, but there are those who love to be shown the truth.
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Synonyms for charlatan: Impostor, a fraud, a fake, a phony

Biblical definition of a Charlatan:
a person who pretends or claims to have more knowledge or skill than he or she possesses; quack.

2 Corinthians 11:12-15
12) But I will keep on doing what I am doing, in order to "undercut" those who want an opportunity to be regarded as our equals in the things of which they boast. 13) For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, masquerading as apostles of Christ. 14) And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. 15) It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their actions.
 
dcontroversal

dcontroversal

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star said:
This person loves to bloviate.
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Yes he does....remember....

a. He is sinless
b. Always obeys God
c. Can do enough to earn his salvation
d. Was told all this in a special revelation from God that few know

Thr truth....he is one of the top 5 I have ever seen that twists, embellishes and adds to not only the word of God, but also what we say.....while denying context, verbiage and simple truth...!!!
 
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YourTruthGod said:
Who is calling you Satan? You think too much of yourself. You can only be a child of Satan or ensnared by Satan. Prove it right now that someone said you were Satan.
You are used to getting away with lying about what others say?

Show it right now where someone said you are Satan.
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You are nothing but a troll looking for followers. Me thinks I'll leave you to your quest.
 
mailmandan

mailmandan

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star said:
You are nothing but a troll looking for followers. Me thinks I'll leave you to your quest.
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Acts 20:28 - Therefore take heed to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood. 29 For I know this, that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock. 30 Also from among yourselves men will rise up, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after themselves. 31 Therefore watch, and remember that for three years I did not cease to warn everyone night and day with tears.
 
calibob

calibob

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If I agreed to work for $100 a day and at the end of the day received $100. Nobody gave me anything. I earned it. If some gave me $100 and I volunteered to work. They gave me $100 and I worked for them. The $100 was already mine. I showed my love by assisting them in whatever measure I could.

We are not inmates or indentured servants. But rather adopted children of a king.
 
dcontroversal

dcontroversal

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calibob said:
If I agreed to work for $100 a day and at the end of the day received $100. Nobody gave me anything. I earned it. If some gave me $100 and I volunteered to work. They gave me $100 and I worked for them. The $100 was already mine. I showed my love by assisting them in whatever measure I could.

We are not inmates or indentured servants. But rather adopted children of a king.
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I would do many a good thing to understand what being adopted actually meant in the 1st century A.D......and how that applies to us being adopted in and chosen as children in Christ....
 
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