Immigration Invasion

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Quantrill

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So, all those Hondurans coming up to invade America...what say you, we should do?

Should America just open up her arms and love them in. Or should we stop them and shut down the border?

I say, stop them and shut down the border and cut off aid to all countries allowing them to pass through to get to our border. Just as Trump has said.

But...what say you?

Quantrill
 
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i live in Airzona and this has been a big concern of ours here. But now, since the 1st of the year I can say it is to late. Almost a million have already come in. The globist catholic churches are full, overflowing with all the illegals that has been bused into the usa. Ive watched vidoes with bus after bus loads are brought in and dropped at catholic churches or some just let out into a city. Then when Trump vetod the vote from the senate against his wall he said we are just stuck with them here. As well as the thousands and thousands that also will come through before the wall is built. I dont know what others are thinking about this but I see it as the globelist moving them in to disrupt our way of live and to remove borders . And to me if Trump was fighting this as people seem to think he would have made the border his first priority and even without doing that if he was against this he would have ordered ice or homeland security to remove the ones that are in the overflowing churches and send them back where they came from.
And I wrote this to see what others are thinking about this.
 
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i live in Airzona and this has been a big concern of ours here. But now, since the 1st of the year I can say it is to late. Almost a million have already come in. The globist catholic churches are full, overflowing with all the illegals that has been bused into the usa. Ive watched vidoe,s with bus after bus loads are brought in and dropped at catholic churches or some just let out into a city. Then when Trump vetod the vote from the senate against his wall he said we are just stuck with them here. As well as the thousands and thousands that also will come through before the wall is built. I dont know what others are thinking about this but I see it as the globelist moving them in to disrupt our way of live and to remove borders . And to me if Trump was fighting this as people seem to think he would have made the border his first priority and even without doing that if he was against this he would have ordered ice or homeland security to remove the ones that are in the overflowing churches and send them back where they came from.
And I wrote this to see what others are thinking about this.
If you want to see these videos yourself look up anthony at the border, paloma for trump ad oscar blue. They have been at the border making videos to show us what is happening there
 

memyselfi

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It is not immoral to defend our border. We welcome immigrants leagaly! As a Christian, it is immoral to support breaking the LAW!!!!
 

Didymous

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Some of you might be racists, and some of you just ignorant. The facts are these: Building a wall won't even put a tiny dent in the massive amounts of drugs coming into this country, because they use tunnels to bring them in. And have any of you ever worked in the fields? I have, and the work is brutal-often in unbearable heat-for slave wages. Without illegals to work in the fields, we'll probably pay 10 times as much for food. I can't afford that. Can you?

Native Americans didn't have immigration laws. Look at the state of this country now.
 
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So, all those Hondurans coming up to invade America...what say you, we should do?

Should America just open up her arms and love them in. Or should we stop them and shut down the border?

I say, stop them and shut down the border and cut off aid to all countries allowing them to pass through to get to our border. Just as Trump has said.

But...what say you?

Quantrill
They successfully destroyed Europe with mass immigration, but thanks to Trump they will not be able to do the same to get America also overrun - at least not any more than it already is. If Hillary would have got in, America would already be a lost cause.
 

Didymous

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Oblivious racists pretending to be Christian.
 
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Anyone purporting to namecall others they don't even know as "racists" is clearly not speaking as a Christian, because God tells us not to judge others or we will also be judged in the same manner.

Matthew 7:1-6

1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.

2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?

5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
 

17Bees

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Some of you might be racists, and some of you just ignorant. The facts are these: Building a wall won't even put a tiny dent in the massive amounts of drugs coming into this country, because they use tunnels to bring them in. And have any of you ever worked in the fields? I have, and the work is brutal-often in unbearable heat-for slave wages. Without illegals to work in the fields, we'll probably pay 10 times as much for food. I can't afford that. Can you?

Native Americans didn't have immigration laws. Look at the state of this country now.

Yes, I have worked crops and it is hard. I worked in tobacco and (the easier) dent corn. The wages were not "slave wages". I will say, however, that your suggestion of ignorance and racism are reckless and your facts are unsupportable. Plus your suggestion that all the illegal immigrants are doing is working like a slave in the fields is naive. I also worked in construction but can't anymore because illegal immigrants are not held to the same standards as American citizens. In my own area black Americans literally owned the concrete work. Block, footings, slabs, curbs - you name it, black contractors were the ones to call. But now - please try to find anybody other than illegal immigrants working construction. It's not because they worked cheaper - its because they could pay their people below minimum wage, they could hire child labor (yes, that's happening), they don't provide workmans comp (if someone gets hurt simply send them to the hospital and let someone else pay) and if they pay any fed or state taxes at all, which is rare, they skirted the system with fake ss numbers. The politicians are complicit because it's win win for their election donations from the builders, the milk producers, the egg producers, and landscaping businesses, chicken producers, maid services, maintenance providers and you name it. Believe me - when you say you can't afford food which is heavily subsidized to begin with - the cost the country is paying in lost wages, benefits for the unemployed and borrowed money is staggering. Plus, this has removed job opportunities for millions of Americans who don't have the money or desire or smarts to go to college. Folks like you and our politicians have the same mental attitude as the slave master politicians did in the years leading up to the civil war. Exploit the poor so I can get my 1 dollar eggs and my lawn mowed for 10.

If nothing but CPA's and teachers and administrative professions were crossing the border were coming across illegally, the walls would be electrified and extended out into the oceans by now. But please, go ahead and accuse people of racism and ignorance while you bask in your cheap food off the exploited backs of the people you're supposedly defending.
 

Didymous

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I worked in construction for 20+ years residential, commercial, and industrial. I don't know where you're at, but here on the west coast, Hispanics get much of the sub work, because they work harder than any other group of people I've ever worked with-the men AND the women. And blaming the victims is typical racist technique that does nothing to validate your stance.
I've walked to very few white folks that will work for the slave wages farm labor pays, and the owners of the farms are white folks at every place I've seen. It's your people that have made things as they are-not any of the ethnic minorities.
But you go ahead an keep telling yourself its those nasty illegals. Minorities and their children work, as I did from the age of 12, because they will do what it takes to feed their families. Your brand of hate is something only God can change. I hope you find Him.
 

17Bees

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Look, feel free to call me names and make accusations. It's apparently your MO and my guess is your prayer in family forum had little success. That said, I never claimed victimhood. I claimed exploitation. Companies of all the services I mentioned including farmers are exploiting illegal immigrant labor and consumers are taking advantage of that and American workers are suffering. Child labor is against the law and exploitation. Not providing workman's comp is against the law and exploitation. Below minimum pay wages is against the law and exploitation. Skirting and outright omission of paying taxes is against the law and exploitation. And I just don't buy into the notion that you and Americans can't afford food unless we exploit these people.

I believe this kind of mentality is reminiscent of slavery and criminal. I believe immigrants should be able to legally come to the US and enjoy the same rights and responsibilities as other citizens and play by the same rules.