Not By Works

The self-righteous Cainologist are bringing their wonderful works to God and just like Cain they are thinking God will smile and be pleased of their works; when in reality they are mixing salvation with our daily walk with Jesus; Cain brought to God the works of his hands and God was not please with his offering however Able's offering was an animal sacrifice which was acceptable to God and everyone knows the ending of this sad story.

Today we still have people like Cain who offer to God the works of their hands and then their are believer's like Able who believe in the blood bought sacrifice of our Savior Jesus Christ, we cannot merit our salvation we are saved unto good works we are not saved by our good works.

Someone please tell me why is it so hard to make a distinction between "our position in Christ" which is saved, holy and set apart for worship and service and "our Practice in Christ.", which is our daily walk with Jesus and a life long pursuit of holy living?"

I think she meant just leaving this thread.

I wish I could it baffles me every day!!

Okay here it is:

I said, "Being saved is salvation".

Here is the the scripture:

Luke 19:9
Jesus said to him, “Today salvation has come to this house, because this man, too, is a son of Abraham.

I said, "Obedience is love."

2 John 1:6 And this is love: that we walk in obedience to his commands.


I said, "God doesn't love anyone until they love Him first."

Proverbs 8:17 I love those who love me, and those who seek me find me.

John 14:21 The person who has my commandments and obeys them is the one who loves me. The one who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I will love him and will reveal myself to him."

He will undoubtably twist this into another religious pretzel..

That is not a testimony of when I was saved. That is about my studying Calvinism and learning that it is false. You should be more careful about what you think someone says. It's probably how innocent people get banned because of people like yourself.

No.

No one innocent gets banned dude.....wake up....this site is fair and the mods do a good job....people get banned for obvious heresy and or doing/saying things that violate the rules in some form or fashion....geesh

Exactly why the many will beg, plead and remind the Lord of how many wonderful works they done in his name.....at least 3 or 4 in this thread currently peddle the same dogma.......especially the new resident worker for.....!

You can't ignore all the scriptures that prove wrong your choice one that you don't understanding.

This is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us is about US IN GENERAL!

That means US IN GENERAL.

God doesn't even love you personally until you love Him.

You were not even born when God made the plan for salvation and then the world.

That is about you having nothing to do with God making the plan for salvation.

Go read it again. Paul says he was circumcised 8 days old.

LOLOL. Paul says no such thing. The only circumcision Paul is concerned with is the "heart." Circumcision of the flesh is not a "works". Legalism and works based faiths are empty and have no hope

Well really, we are not saying the same thing.

He says love is how we obey.
That is nowhere in the scriptures.
He doesn't even know the meaning of 'love fulfills the law'.
Love fulfills the law means that if you obey you are loving.

You are speaking against God WHO MADE THE PURIFICATION works of the law.

LOL

It's called PURIFICATION WORKS because it purified.

You are truly blind or so it seems. You need to read what Paul says and ask the HS to help you discern.

I believe he said has been given personal revelation.

“.... I know your deeds; you have a reputation of being alive, but YOU ARE DEAD. Wake up! Strengthen what remains and is about to die, for I HAVE NOT FOUND YOUR DEEDS COMPLETE IN THE SIGHT OF MY GOD. Remember, therefore, what you have RECEIVED and HEARD; OBEY IT, and REPENT. But if you do not wake up, I will come like a thief, and you will not know at what time I will come to you.

Those who are DISOBEDIENT and UNREPENTANT members of the church which is the body of Christ are still DEAD in the sight of God.

James put it in this wise...

... As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead.
James 2:26

Do these members of the church in Sardis have FAITH in God? Yes .

Did Jesus say here that their FAITH ALONE is enough and complete in the sight of God?

What if they do not OBEY and REPENT?
Will they not remain DEAD in the sight of God? Was Jesus teaching OSAS here or is He saying otherwise?

...Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them. For it is shameful even to mention what the disobedient do in secret. But everything exposed by the light becomes visible, for it is light that makes everything visible. This is why it is said: “WAKE UP, O SLEEPER, RISE FROM THE DEAD, and Christ will shine on you.” Ephesians 5:11-14

...And do this, understanding the present time. The hour has come for you to wake up from your slumber, because OUR SALVATION IS NEARER NOW THAN WHEN WE FIRST BELIEVED. Romans 13:11

No kidding?
Do you think that those who don't understand will say it?

No,

The bible says faith WILL have works. And has instance after instance of where this is shown to be true (hebrews even as a faith hall of fame)

Will and HAVE are two different things, It would benefit you greatly to learn what they are.