Myers-Briggs personality score

*Lynx adjusts his nerd specs:

Yes, well, SHEC is a subset of FEGF. There are other subsets including RPEP (Restaurant Patron Eating Pasta,) BCEP (Bistro Customer Enjoying Pizza) and of course BGALG (Bakery-Goer who Appreciates Long Johns) but they are all subsets of FEGF. They differ only in the preferred locale and favorite foods.

Ya, I can relate to the sentiment from these perspectives... I only read the Forbes article (in its entirety) to get a pulse for the gist to confirm my hypothesis... His final paragraph confirms what I suspected (I like that he uses the weather analogy as an uncertain/unpredictable example)...
The professionals in this field understand the capabilities and limitations of such tools; I tend to refer to such warnings as the 'Danger Will Robinson - Danger!' warning that should come with all methods, models or tools that the common person is unlikely qualified nor expected to understand the particularities - that the professionals do...

When it comes to the use of combat models and simulations we tend to reference a couple favorite quotes:
"All models are wrong but some are useful" George Box (Statistician)
"If you build a model that even an idiot can use, rest assured, idiots will use them" Unknown...

All that being said - maybe it is because of my understanding of the MBTI limitations and constraints that I do understand what it might be useful for - similar to this snippet from his last paragraph: "And it works well enough for most conditions. But watch out when there is an organizational hurricane or drought,..."

People claim many things for attention, i don't take the tests or any claims seriously though.

And i think i saw a thread where someone posted about eating cake while people are starving or something...
So because im supposed to be the man with the plan, thinking steps ahead... yea.

The article from Psychology Today is a bit tougher on the Myers-Briggs, and pretty much writes it off as useless rubbish.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/give-and-take/201309/goodbye-mbti-the-fad-won-t-die


As far as I know, this test has been debunked as particularly reliable or useful YEARS AGO...
but it's still promoted everywhere because IT MAKES MONEY.

There is a whole industry of people paying for certifications to administer the tests etc. etc...
it's just become a money machine.


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lol.. Don't downplay yourself, you never know, it could have been.

I dunno... I grew up with a cat always in the house and I'm pretty good at reading feline language. That particular cat seems quite content in his current position and is not inclined to move for anything, even cheesecake.

I'll have to take care of the cheesecake for him. Uh... professional courtesy y'know, one feline to another.

I know just brought it up cuz its funny and ironic in a way 😂 still IQ and a number after was what I was looking for and didnt get it 🤔

Agree, no doubt... can appreciate all the ways that it is misused and the people who are gunna abuse it and misrepresent it in order to make a buck... and those who tend to use if for the things that it was not intended nor is it necessarily good for...

What the Myers-Briggs Personality Test Can and Can’t Tell You
https://www.sitepoint.com/what-the-myers-briggs-personality-test-can-and-cant-tell-you/

I find it useful for my own personal nefarious purposes... I've used it for my own personal development for years...
I test out every time as INFJ and I feel that is pretty useful for my intended purposes... This personality type is often referred to as the advocate or counselor... those who know me say that fits me pretty well...

I also find it useful every time a person self-tests as an INTJ...
I've seen and participated in useful team-building efforts with group projects; where the members of the project were both smitten with their results and the results were deemed generally fitting for most for the most part and for the intended purpose... Was useful to better understand how to interact with certain personalities...

One of these personality types is referred to as 'the mastermind'. Coincidentally - a senior executive who years ago self tested with this personality type on one of our projects - was recently asked to retire from his position - as he wrongly believed that who knew what was best for the institution, and tended to deceptively ignore higher level guidance and direction that he didn't agree with... He believed he was smarter than everyone, else...

I've found it useful to have my kids take it when they were at a complete loss as to what they might want to study in college or simply to help provide some reassurances for their choices and interests in electives...
Like any tool - at the end of the day they owned the final decision - the tool only gave them ideas for their consideration - lots of times simply to confirm what they were already thinking... Similarly, the tool informed them of potential career options... Trust me, nobody, not their parents, nor a tool is going to tell them what their future career is going to be (or not) - they are each fully prepared to make that decision for themselves... but the MBTI served useful for their consideration for their decisions... and they are well-informed enough (thanks to dad) to not trust any tool... Not even their GPS...
The human ultimately has to make their own decisions... Sometimes tools can be useful to inform their decisions...

Funny, I'm considering that if I were to ever begin dating again I might toy around with developing my own version (for my own purposes - ie a christianity score/personality/compatibility test) just so I can use it to have potential candidates take the test so I can better know which types I should steer clear of (for my own safety)... lol... jk... but tempting...

Solemateleft,
I think you're a good guy, and I've always appreciated your posts and your participation.
I need to point out some issues, and disagree, but please don't take it personally.
I think you're good people.

I just have a lot to say on this topic, and need to get it off my chest.

Please feel free to message me privately at any time.


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Your Cited Article:

You cited a link to sitepoint.

Sitepoint is not an authoritative site for either psychology or general news... sitepoint is a hub for web professionals.
The author of the article, Alyssa Gregory, has no credentials in psychology, and she has no authority to speak on the subject of psychology... she is an entrepreneur and content marketer.

Neither the author, nor the site, carry any authority or credentials for assessing the Meyers-Briggs test.

So basically... that whole article means nothing.
And it gets worse.

In fact, since she admits to being a content marketer, and that article contains entirely useless links going to various hubs and advertising sites, I would have to assume that entire article is nothing but a piece of rubbish she wrote as quick piece of "content marketing." This is the kind of article a "content marketer" has to crank out by the bushel, on topics she knows nothing about, for which she put in maybe 5 minutes of research. Her job is to crank out fast articles stuffed with various links and keywords... not to be an expert on anything.

So... to put it as kindly as possible... your supporting article is entirely useless rubbish.


Professional Consensus:

Professionals in psychology seem to have generally debunked the Myers-Briggs test as useless at worst, or flawed at best.
The only reason it is popular is because it makes money, and those making money from it continue driving it into the popular culture... keeping it relevant in pop culture keeps it's proponents making money.

I feel pretty confident that few professionals in psychology are big proponents of the Myers-Briggs unless they are directly making money from it through paid assessments or training. I think the consensus is that it's considered somewhere on the spectrum between "seriously flawed" and "useless".


Personal Opinion:

Personally, I have never needed a psyche test to evaluate my staff.
I just have a cup of coffee with people, and listen to them talk.
It isn't that hard to figure people out.

And as far as myself...
I don't know how you can spend every day with yourself and not know anything about yourself.
I find the idea baffling.

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All good points... Lol no argument here... 😎

I've had to take not only the Myers-Briggs, but also the DISC test for a few different jobs. I am embarrassed to admit my natural style vs my adaptive style in a business setting are quite different. I was disappointed to see my altruism and aesthetic values are rock bottom in the business office. My main focus has always been achieving the company's goal. I was off the charts for the economical, political, and theoretical scores though, meaning I was extremely competitive, a strong leader, take the initiative, able to influence the team, and high interest level in understanding all aspects of a situation. Regulatory score was a little above average. On the other hand, my natural style is much more conservative, agreeable, poised, able to balance the needs of both others and myself, etc. The strange thing is, though they labeled me "the executive", I never perceived myself as such. To me, I've just been like everyone else, a hard worker trying to make money to help my kids.