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cv5

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kKRight! I think you should talk your thinking over with the Father. Do you think He will be impressed?

If you are being satirical, you won...
Nope. Totally serious. I am never the jester in these matters. Maybe you don't get it....... don't worry about it. Better to preach than spend time ruminating and fulminating about the Creation.
 

JaumeJ

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In my time at teh U of Il. I passed much of my time in discussion with the entire astrophysics grad student body. I never heard your explanation, but that was a long time ago; since many ideas of what I shared with them from faith in the Word have come to be. The most radical is the idea that the more science "discovers" the larger the universe would be found to be..... It is easy to discuss much without using a combination of words designed to impress and confuse.
 

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Im Aaron and Im an atheist looking for answers. my starting questions is why are you christian even tho there is no good evidence for the existence of God let alone the christian God. How do you know your religion is right? and how can you believe if the bible is full of errors and contradictions?
All 143 alleged 'errors' in the bible have been debunked. There's even a book on the subject, but, I can't remember the title.
 

preston39

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"The scientific community has concluded that matter must come from matter"

Absolutely incorrect. And unscriptural. There is no "matter" per se. See Ken Wheeler's experiments on wave/particle "duality". Matter is nothing less than electromagnetic condensates of a sort.
You haven't shown me where I am incorrect? Do you plan to?

"Matter must come from matter"

You need to study current scientific standing;

https://www.quora.com/How-did-all-the-matter-in-the-universe-come-from-nothing

et al.
 

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Nope. Totally serious. I am never the jester in these matters. Maybe you don't get it....... don't worry about it. Better to preach than spend time ruminating and fulminating about the Creation.
You are wrong here.
Notice the IP request information...not debate.

It seems you are challenged to understand writings and their intent.
 

cv5

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My friend....I assure you such theories as you posit are utterly, woefully, hilariously obsolete.
You must prove.... not just make statements. ok?
 

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Have you ever gone hiking?

If you're hiking mountains and your above the tree line they use cairns to mark the trail.
Cairns are several rocks or more that are stacked vertically. It is about the most rudimentary creation that is possible, and yet the moment someone sees a cairn they know immediately and with certainty that this pile of rocks didn't just happen. They know immediately that this pile of rocks (cairn) had to be created, formed, etc. And they can see immediately that it was formed for a reason – and in this case to mark the trail.

When you look at life, it is so overwhelmingly complex, symmetrical, functional, beautiful... and much, much more sophisticated and grand than the rock cairn, but when it comes to life many people struggle to see that life too has been created.

WHY?

Because Satan is real. He is the ruler of this world and he deceives everyone. We all begin in this world as children of Satan, until we are saved from him. And the only life line to save us from the ruler of this world is the Word of truth (the Holy Bible).

You are here because you know something is wrong with the world. You have this 'splinter' in your mind. I did too, we all did.

Have you ever watched the movie, “The Matrix”? (I'm not joking here)

Well the world we actually live in is kind of like this movie. We are all like Neo. We are searching, we are looking, but we can't explain exactly what is wrong with the world (and with ourselves). At the end we cannot save ourselves from this. We have to be saved. The deception has to be pulled away from our eyes for us. The truth has to be given to us.

Not only are most religions false, but most versions of Christianity are false.
The truth is the Holy Bible; nothing more and nothing less.

I would be happy to share more with you, otherwise Godspeed!

Im Aaron and Im an atheist looking for answers. my starting questions is why are you christian even tho there is no good evidence for the existence of God let alone the christian God. How do you know your religion is right? and how can you believe if the bible is full of errors and contradictions?
 

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Im Aaron and Im an atheist looking for answers. my starting questions is why are you christian even tho there is no good evidence for the existence of God let alone the christian God. How do you know your religion is right? and how can you believe if the bible is full of errors and contradictions?
1) first hand witnesses of unimpeachable quality
2) written records of unimpeachable veracity and authenticity (Pauls writings are impeccable)
3) The fact of the present existence of the nation Israel and superb quality written records
4) fulfilled prophecy (see item #3)
5) scientific scrutiny of the Creation and its staggering complexity
6) the so-called errors and contradictions? Stick around for 10 years and you will determine that they are minor scribal errors and the rest is spot on.

Then or course there is all of this......

http://www.bible.ca/archeology/bible-archeology-exodus-route-mt-sinai.htm

http://www.bible.ca/archeology/bible-archeology-exodus-route-travel-times-distances-days.htm

https://ichthus77.com/2008/01/03/si...seventy-weeks-prophecy-and-jesus-crucifixion/

https://creation.com/our-galaxy-is-the-centre-of-the-universe-quantized-redshifts-show

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn23301-planck-shows-almost-perfect-cosmos-plus-axis-of-evil/

http://www.reach-unlimited.com/p/10...a-confirm-earth-may-be-the-center-of-universe

http://www.setterfield.org/Astronomy/Quasar_alignments.html


https://www.nicholson1968.com/nics-pics.html#tab2
(this world is filled with the occult - beware!)

https://vigilantcitizen.com/sinistersites/sinister-sites-the-eu-parliament/
(this world is filled with the occult - beware!)

https://vigilantcitizen.com/category/pics-of-the-month/
(this world is filled with the occult - beware!)
 
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1) first hand witnesses of unimpeachable quality
2) written records of unimpeachable veracity and authenticity (Pauls writings are impeccable)
3) The fact of the present existence of the nation Israel and superb quality written records
4) fulfilled prophecy (see item #3)
5) scientific scrutiny of the Creation and its staggering complexity
6) the so-called errors and contradictions? Stick around for 10 years and you will determine that they are minor scribal errors and the rest is spot on.

Then or course there is all of this......

http://www.bible.ca/archeology/bible-archeology-exodus-route-mt-sinai.htm

http://www.bible.ca/archeology/bible-archeology-exodus-route-travel-times-distances-days.htm

https://ichthus77.com/2008/01/03/si...seventy-weeks-prophecy-and-jesus-crucifixion/

https://creation.com/our-galaxy-is-the-centre-of-the-universe-quantized-redshifts-show

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn23301-planck-shows-almost-perfect-cosmos-plus-axis-of-evil/

http://www.reach-unlimited.com/p/10...a-confirm-earth-may-be-the-center-of-universe

http://www.setterfield.org/Astronomy/Quasar_alignments.html


https://www.nicholson1968.com/nics-pics.html#tab2
(this world is filled with the occult - beware!)

https://vigilantcitizen.com/sinistersites/sinister-sites-the-eu-parliament/
(this world is filled with the occult - beware!)

https://vigilantcitizen.com/category/pics-of-the-month/
(this world is filled with the occult - beware!)
It seems the author of the vid is speaking mainly only two of the fundamental forces of the universe electromagnetic and gravity, there are a few more.
 
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Not Supertramp really, gee this world has gone batty
 

cv5

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It seems the author of the vid is speaking mainly only two of the fundamental forces of the universe electromagnetic and gravity, there are a few more.
Actually.....no.
 

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I would say stay way from the conspirators, they will lead you into a rabbit hole.
The evidence presented is clear.....stay away from pop music, videos, movies, magazines etc. Undoubtedly satanic. Beware.
 
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The evidence presented is clear.....stay away from pop music, videos, movies, magazines etc. Undoubtedly satanic. Beware.
Well if that is the case you posted links that say stay away from dell apple etc. basically computers rather a laptop desktop iPad phone computer are all satanic. the first personal computer apple sold for 666.66 I’d say yea don’t get on computers as well wouldn’t you agree? beware

then there’s cars, electricity, guns, boy there is a list to follow if your going to believe things are driven by satan can’t pick and choose. and using satanic items to tell people not to use them is the pot calling the kettle black.
 

JaumeJ

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Well if that is the case you posted links that say stay away from dell apple etc. basically computers rather a laptop desktop iPad phone computer are all satanic. the first personal computer apple sold for 666.66 I’d say yea don’t get on computers as well wouldn’t you agree? beware

then there’s cars, electricity, guns, boy there is a list to follow if your going to believe things are driven by satan can’t pick and choose. and using satanic items to tell people not to use them is the pot calling the kettle black.
You seem to have described trolling here quite well.
 

cv5

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Well if that is the case you posted links that say stay away from dell apple etc. basically computers rather a laptop desktop iPad phone computer are all satanic. the first personal computer apple sold for 666.66 I’d say yea don’t get on computers as well wouldn’t you agree? beware

then there’s cars, electricity, guns, boy there is a list to follow if your going to believe things are driven by satan can’t pick and choose. and using satanic items to tell people not to use them is the pot calling the kettle black.
Narrow it down to pop music, hollywierd movies, crazy video games, worldly magazines etc and you will do well.