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Well I would also add that though they might seem to be married in the eyes of the world, they are not married in the eyes of God. Therefore my advice to the OP is to offer your moral support and love to your relative but make it perfectly clear that you do not intend to support any of the activities that are carried out in the name of this union and that you will not be partaking in the festivities. If they have an issue with you, they can take it up with God.
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You sure got a lot edge uttering words like that. Very Christlike.
In the Bible we are told to treat others the way we want to be treated ourselves, Matthew 7:12. I know that many of you righteous people don’t like that part because it’s in opposition to your pure, pharisaical and Bible thumping Christianity.
People like you always find something, in the Bible, or other places, to back up your hostile viewpoints.
Is it going against the word of God to stand by a lifelong friend who is dwindling downhill and has done so for years? Is going against God getting her to hospital time and again because she can’t live with herself? Is it going against the word of God getting rid of all her liquor so that she can’t get drunk at least not that day? Me and two other friends have been looking after her for years now. Why? Because we love her. Do you know what that word means? You think me starting Bible thumping will save the day?
You’re talking about mockery and my salvation? Clean up your own backyard before saying idiotic things like that to me again. Smh.
In the Bible we are told to treat others the way we want to be treated ourselves, Matthew 7:12. I know that many of you righteous people don’t like that part because it’s in opposition to your pure, pharisaical and Bible thumping Christianity.
People like you always find something, in the Bible, or other places, to back up your hostile viewpoints.
Is it going against the word of God to stand by a lifelong friend who is dwindling downhill and has done so for years? Is going against God getting her to hospital time and again because she can’t live with herself? Is it going against the word of God getting rid of all her liquor so that she can’t get drunk at least not that day? Me and two other friends have been looking after her for years now. Why? Because we love her. Do you know what that word means? You think me starting Bible thumping will save the day?
You’re talking about mockery and my salvation? Clean up your own backyard before saying idiotic things like that to me again. Smh.
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Good that you look after your friend , is that not what we are supposed to do ?...
While you are looking after her , do you read her the Scriptures that clearly state here
1 Corinthians 6: 9-10 Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,[2] 10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
Now this is love also , feeding your friend the word of God...xox...
While you are looking after her , do you read her the Scriptures that clearly state here
1 Corinthians 6: 9-10 Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,[2] 10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
Now this is love also , feeding your friend the word of God...xox...
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While I do understand this we all come to the age of responsibility. The point I'm trying to make is no one will stand before God and say "that person made me gay". Sin is a choice. I don't know the stats of those who have been molested that have become gay,and I understand that precious innocence is taken away at that moment. But this is why I am saying that we must tell people the truth of the Gospel. Sin is a choice that separates us from God. People need to know the truth.
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Perhaps you don't see your hypocrisy here, I thought it would do good to point it out. Your attitude speaks volumes. And I think you better take a step back and rethink what you are saying. You are being as judgmental as you claim others are,more so.
Again you are being judgmental. What does "people like you" mean?! Those "hostile viewpoints" are found in the Bible. And just because you want to avoid them and point out all the "love" verses doesn't make the other verses go away. God's Word is still true whether you believe it or not.
Yes,yes,yes!! A thousand times YES!! Jesus is her answer! He is the cure for her sin,her hurt,her bondage. He is the ANSWER!! Why are you holding that from her?! The demons of hell are trying to drag her soul into the depth of darkness and YOU have THE ANSWER!! How can you not see this? You can't help her,you can't save her. Tell her the truth. You don't have to slam her in the head! We're talking about discernment here,the Holy Spirit leading. Stop trying to save her from herself and give her the CURE!!
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If I'm reading between the lines correctly, it sounds like you are saying that your friend has been in and out of the hospital due to her struggle with her homosexual desires.
So think about it, here this woman is under attack by satan using her fallen, sinful nature to doubt God, and what He would like for her life.
The VERY LAST thing she needs is someone furthering satan's plan, by telling her that it's ok to give in to your fleshly desires.
Awesome that you love and care for her. And I don't want to minimize that. It also does not mean that you should be saying you're going to hell for being a homosexual.
In fact, get the WHOLE emphasis off of her and her sinful desires, and focus on the Gospel, and how beautiful Jesus Is. If she is saved, the Holy Spirit will in various ways get her to see the Truth about ALL issues regarding sin.
You haven't posted much recently, so you may be unaware that Rosemary is one of the most loving Christians here. Isn't it possible that it is YOU that is doing the judging?
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I don't recall if Rosemary was posting when I was here about a year ago. But I have seen nothing in her response that is unloving. And I honestly don't understand why speaking the truth of God's Word has become a reason for Christians to persecute other Christians as the world does. Words like tolerance,inclusion and homophobic are secular buzzwords that should never be used by Christians against other Christians. We are supposed to be fighting the enemy,not each other.
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He wouldn't be my friend. Because I'm in Christ I would have nothing in common with him. By the way, his righteous friend is a sinner covered by the blood of Christ. He is not righteous in and of his own self. Stop with ridiculous comparisons.
"Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership can righteousness have with wickedness? Or what fellowship does light have with darkness?"
You obviously need to figure out who's side you're on.
"Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership can righteousness have with wickedness? Or what fellowship does light have with darkness?"
You obviously need to figure out who's side you're on.
You took offense to me using the word "silly" (which in my opinion, was not only accurate but kind), yet here you are dishing out the word "idiotic" like it's nothing. Come on, you've got to see that.
...is there a reason you don't count yourself among the righteous?? Because if you're a Christian, you've been made righteous, so you're righteous right along with the rest of us!
None of the things you mentioned is going against the Word of God. The saddest part is, without the Word of God, you and your other caregiving friends are spinning your wheels. The Word of God is exactly what your hurting friend needs to heal.
I can look back on the time of my life when I was the hurting friend (with the same sin struggle as the friend you mentioned) and I can tell you, it was my one true Christian friend who told me the truth of God's Word and continually prayed for me that I appreciate the most. The ones who knew and said nothing...well...honestly I can't really understand where they're coming from, seeing as though they knew the truth all along and could have told me at any time. It's like they stuck around just to see my eventual demise (that they knew was coming!). I excuse my unsaved friends (some who had same-sex attractions and some who did not) for not telling me because they didn't know the truth themselves. But once I became saved, I shared Jesus with them. I'm still praying for that to take root in their lives.
It's wonderful that you're taking care of your friend's physical and emotional needs, and that's totally needed. But as a person who has been where she is, I'm telling you that her spiritual needs are even more important. Sharing the Gospel in fact would be treating her the way I would want to be treated; and I know this from experience, not conjecture.
I'm not sure that you really see the power you have in the position you're in. I only wish I was saved and knew the Gospel of truth back when I was futilely trying to help my hurting friends while hurting the same way myself. I would have been free much earlier and really had the solution to help them get free as well. You have two things that many caregivers do not have: 1) the Truth and 2) freedom in Christ. That's huge! Walk in that, for the world's sake!
...is there a reason you don't count yourself among the righteous?? Because if you're a Christian, you've been made righteous, so you're righteous right along with the rest of us!
None of the things you mentioned is going against the Word of God. The saddest part is, without the Word of God, you and your other caregiving friends are spinning your wheels. The Word of God is exactly what your hurting friend needs to heal.
I can look back on the time of my life when I was the hurting friend (with the same sin struggle as the friend you mentioned) and I can tell you, it was my one true Christian friend who told me the truth of God's Word and continually prayed for me that I appreciate the most. The ones who knew and said nothing...well...honestly I can't really understand where they're coming from, seeing as though they knew the truth all along and could have told me at any time. It's like they stuck around just to see my eventual demise (that they knew was coming!). I excuse my unsaved friends (some who had same-sex attractions and some who did not) for not telling me because they didn't know the truth themselves. But once I became saved, I shared Jesus with them. I'm still praying for that to take root in their lives.
It's wonderful that you're taking care of your friend's physical and emotional needs, and that's totally needed. But as a person who has been where she is, I'm telling you that her spiritual needs are even more important. Sharing the Gospel in fact would be treating her the way I would want to be treated; and I know this from experience, not conjecture.
I'm not sure that you really see the power you have in the position you're in. I only wish I was saved and knew the Gospel of truth back when I was futilely trying to help my hurting friends while hurting the same way myself. I would have been free much earlier and really had the solution to help them get free as well. You have two things that many caregivers do not have: 1) the Truth and 2) freedom in Christ. That's huge! Walk in that, for the world's sake!
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I’ve never said I’m not judgmental.
He wouldn’t be your friend. Why does that not surprise me?
I’m on Jesus side. I care for my friend. You come across not knowing what caring is, judging from your posts.
Why don’t you go help real people who really need help? It’s not enough tithing. You have to do something, and you can start with your nearest and dearest first. Or in your own community. Teach people about Jesus, and what He did. Don’t be sitting on your butt assuming He stayed away from the little ones. Because He did not. He helped them, He was setting an example. Oh yes, He said sin no more, but not in the way some posters on here have been advocating...and He was God.
He wouldn’t be your friend. Why does that not surprise me?
I’m on Jesus side. I care for my friend. You come across not knowing what caring is, judging from your posts.
Why don’t you go help real people who really need help? It’s not enough tithing. You have to do something, and you can start with your nearest and dearest first. Or in your own community. Teach people about Jesus, and what He did. Don’t be sitting on your butt assuming He stayed away from the little ones. Because He did not. He helped them, He was setting an example. Oh yes, He said sin no more, but not in the way some posters on here have been advocating...and He was God.
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It's all forgiven.
Just keep in mind that if you had never heard my story, what I said would have still been true. What's true is true, no matter the past of the person saying it. I'd extend that to others in this thread as well; we have better intentions than you think.
Thanks for responding with such kindness and humility. This is not something I share often. Sometimes, people with my testimony ("ex-gay" as folks sometimes call it) can be hesitant to share about what we came out of because of the vitriol we tend to receive, seemingly more so than others--some even say we can't exist and our deliverance is not real. (Lucky me over here having a "hot-button" testimony!) So I only share it when I think it's critically relevant and helpful to the conversation at hand, and even then it can still feel like a risk. I didn't know how you'd respond, so I appreciate this.
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Just keep in mind that if you had never heard my story, what I said would have still been true. What's true is true, no matter the past of the person saying it. I'd extend that to others in this thread as well; we have better intentions than you think.
Thanks for responding with such kindness and humility. This is not something I share often. Sometimes, people with my testimony ("ex-gay" as folks sometimes call it) can be hesitant to share about what we came out of because of the vitriol we tend to receive, seemingly more so than others--some even say we can't exist and our deliverance is not real. (Lucky me over here having a "hot-button" testimony!) So I only share it when I think it's critically relevant and helpful to the conversation at hand, and even then it can still feel like a risk. I didn't know how you'd respond, so I appreciate this.
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