Did Jesus rise from the dead while He was in the tomb? (and another question)

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These might seem like silly questions. Did Jesus rise from the dead while He was in the tomb? Did the angel roll back the stone after Jesus rose from the dead?
 

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Yes. They put Jesus in the tomb when He was dead. So He must have rose from the dead when He was in the tomb.

Not sure about your second question. We are not really given an exact timeline. I'm not 100% sure if the Lord Jesus needed the stone out of the way to get out of the tomb. But it WAS rolled away and I assume the reason it was rolled away was because the Lord wanted to exit that way. So my assumption is that the angel rolled back the stone after the Lord Jesus rose from the dead.
 

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These might seem like silly questions. Did Jesus rise from the dead while He was in the tomb? Did the angel roll back the stone after Jesus rose from the dead?
For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God. He was put to death in the body but made alive in the Spirit. 19 After being made alive,[d] he went and made proclamation to the imprisoned spirits – 20 to those who were disobedient long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built. In it only a few people, eight in all, were saved through water, 1Peter3:18-20
 

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According to the scriptures, Jesus resurrected immediately after dying. This is what it means to be full of life/truth, death could not overcome Him even for a millisecond. The issue about 3 days and 3 nights was to fulfill prophesy and also physically point to the Messiah, but resurrection was immediate:

Matt 27:
50And when Jesus had cried out again in a loud voice, he gave up his spirit.

51At that moment the curtain of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom. The earth shook, the rocks split 52and the tombs broke open. The bodies of many holy people who had died were raised to life. 53They came out of the tombs after Jesus’ resurrection and e went into the holy city and appeared to many people.
 

Ahwatukee

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These might seem like silly questions. Did Jesus rise from the dead while He was in the tomb? Did the angel roll back the stone after Jesus rose from the dead?
Greetings LeeLoving,

Since the word "anastasis" translated as "Resurrection" properly means to "physically stand up again in the same body," Jesus' spirit would have had to reenter His body, where at which time it took on the qualities of immortal and glorified. So, His spirit would have had to reenter His body, which was in the tomb, in order to resurrect.
 

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Yes.

I want to add as well: It is ABSOLUTELY vital and necessary that anyone who wears the name Christian believes in the BODILY, PHYSICAL; ACTUAL resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Without that, THERE IS NO SALVATION!
 

Ahwatukee

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Yes.

I want to add as well: It is ABSOLUTELY vital and necessary that anyone who wears the name Christian believes in the BODILY, PHYSICAL; ACTUAL resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Without that, THERE IS NO SALVATION!
And Jesus is our example in that, those who have died in Him will also resurrect in an immortal and glorified body. Those who are still alive will simply be changed immortal and glorified where they stand and be caught up with them.
 
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These might seem like silly questions. Did Jesus rise from the dead while He was in the tomb? Did the angel roll back the stone after Jesus rose from the dead?
His corrupted body typified as sinful was used as a one time demonstration of God pouring out his unseen spirit on flesh. It was kept from aging or corrupting for the time he was in the tomb .

There is no power to attributed to the things seen .being born into the world gave him no advantage power came by the unseen work being made conformable unto his death. Not dead. But a living sacrifice.

Philippians 3:10 That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;

Romans 1:4And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:

Again no power is attributed to the flesh or birth . Being born of the flesh provides no power to believe God.

1 Corinthians 15:50Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

Galatians 6:8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting
 

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His corrupted body typified as sinful was used as a one time demonstration of God pouring out his unseen spirit on flesh. It was kept from aging or corrupting for the time he was in the tomb .
Huh? What bible are you reading? Jesus's body was never corrupted, and He was never sinful. You can't make an argument about God preventing corruption when you start with stating that His body was corrupted. In that case it would have been a reversal of corruption, not the prevention of it.
 
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Yes.

I want to add as well: It is ABSOLUTELY vital and necessary that anyone who wears the name Christian believes in the BODILY, PHYSICAL; ACTUAL resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Without that, THERE IS NO SALVATION!
One way I have been looking at that and thinking for a while now is that we do not look to the flesh as the things seen as the power needed for salvation. It through the Son of man Jesus was the outward promised demonstration of the unseen work which was finished before the foundation of the world .

The rest we do have when mixing faith in what we do have that comes from hearing God was finished on the 7th day. This is for all the work God was doing this includes the work of the lamb of God. If we do not harden our hearts then we know it is God working in us with us (Emmanuel) to both will and empower us do His good pleasure . giving us a imputed righteousness
 

Ahwatukee

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Huh? What bible are you reading? Jesus's body was never corrupted, and He was never sinful. You can't make an argument about God preventing corruption when you start with stating that His body was corrupted. In that case it would have been a reversal of corruption, not the prevention of it.
Hello Dino,

Just wondering who you were responding to, since I didn't see anyone in this thread who said that Jesus body was corrupted or sinful. Just curious.

It's a good idea to put the quote of the person that you are responding to above your response so that the other posters know who and what post you are responding to.

Thanks!
 
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Huh? What bible are you reading? Jesus's body was never corrupted, and He was never sinful. You can't make an argument about God preventing corruption when you start with stating that His body was corrupted. In that case it would have been a reversal of corruption, not the prevention of it.
Hi Dino

I would offer. Corruption is shown by a creature that has been separated from the Faithfull Creator. The soul as a form of communing between two spirits not seen that sins will die.

Thou shall die, in dying corruption works towards it goal "dead". No life of the spirit. Aging shows corruption as a decaying process that lead flesh and blood retuning to the lifeless spiritless dust it was formed from and the corrupted spirit if not born again returns to the father who gave it temporarily.

Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
When mankind exchanged the holy unseen place of God for a serpent as that seen in whom the father of lies put his lying thoughts of the lips of a creature the corruption began .Mankind realized they were naked. (no God as a source of faith) therefore without a living hope and without God in this world. .

Jesus received his DNA from the flesh of His mother. It is not reckoned as the seed (Christ) the spiritual incorruptible seed . the seed of Christ as the power of salvation came after the spirit of resurrection. Again not in respect to His birth . The Son of an in respect to his flesh informs us it profited for nothing zero .It the Spirit that does quicken ones soul giving His understanding..His words are Spirit and are life giving.(John 6)

Romans 1:4 And declared to be the "Son of God" with power, according to the "spirit of holiness", by the resurrection from the dead

Again not by the corrupted flesh typified as sinful used for a promised demonstration. Therefore not declared to be the "Son of man" with power, according to the flesh of holiness. Again not to be confused between the Son of man and the Son of God. No such thing as "flesh of holiness". The holy place of God is the unseen . It will be revealed as the glory that will light the new creation. there will be no darkness no night, forever and ever more..

Again used as promised demonstration of the Son of God who previously was typified as our eternal High Priest, Melchezedek a theophany( not literal flesh and blood) but a vision or prophecy to represent "without mother or father .God is not man as us. But in order to put away sin in flesh God sending his own Son of man, Jesus in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin he condemned sin in the flesh. A fleshly demonstration was necessary to fulfil the promises after the Spirit who gives us the faith to see that hidden form natural man who must walk after the flesh .having no Spirit of Christ in him be which they could believe God not seen .


Romans 8:2-4 King James Version (KJV)For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the "Spirit".

The veil is rent.The time of reformation is here in the last days .
 

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His corrupted body typified as sinful was used as a one time demonstration of God pouring out his unseen spirit on flesh. It was kept from aging or corrupting for the time he was in the tomb .

There is no power to attributed to the things seen .being born into the world gave him no advantage power came by the unseen work being made conformable unto his death. Not dead. But a living sacrifice.

Philippians 3:10 That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;

Romans 1:4And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:

Again no power is attributed to the flesh or birth . Being born of the flesh provides no power to believe God.

1 Corinthians 15:50Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

Galatians 6:8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting
Huh? What bible are you reading? Jesus's body was never corrupted, and He was never sinful. You can't make an argument about God preventing corruption when you start with stating that His body was corrupted. In that case it would have been a reversal of corruption, not the prevention of it.
Hello Dino,

Just wondering who you were responding to, since I didn't see anyone in this thread who said that Jesus body was corrupted or sinful. Just curious.

It's a good idea to put the quote of the person that you are responding to above your response so that the other posters know who and what post you are responding to.

Thanks!
Ahwatukee,

Dino was responding to garee.
 

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One of the prophecies about our Lord, Jesus, is that He would not be allowed to see corruption...…...
 
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Hello Dino,

Just wondering who you were responding to, since I didn't see anyone in this thread who said that Jesus body was corrupted or sinful. Just curious.

It's a good idea to put the quote of the person that you are responding to above your response so that the other posters know who and what post you are responding to.

Thanks!
Hi Ahwatukee

Not sinful but typified as sinful, called corrupted flesh or called a body of death . Corrupted flesh represents sin as those not clothed with the righteousness of Christ.

We have the treasure of the power of his authority living in these earthen bodies of death but are given the understanding by the power that does dwell, it as Emmanuel is in with us but not of us. as if God was served by corrupted hands. He has no needs in that way but satisfies all.

God is not a man as us.
 

Dino246

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Hello Dino,

Just wondering who you were responding to, since I didn't see anyone in this thread who said that Jesus body was corrupted or sinful. Just curious.

It's a good idea to put the quote of the person that you are responding to above your response so that the other posters know who and what post you are responding to.

Thanks!
I was quoting Garee... perhaps you have him on 'Ignore' so you don't see his posts, even when quoted.
 
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One of the prophecies about our Lord, Jesus, is that He would not be allowed to see corruption...…...
Yes you could say his body saw no decay for three days or did not age one second. The three day work of " the days that time stood still" for the corrupted flesh, no aging.
 

Dino246

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I would offer. Corruption is shown by a creature that has been separated from the Faithfull Creator.
Garee, "corruption" in this context means "rot"... simple as that. Jesus' body was not allowed to rot. The bodies of the most faithful and Christlike of believers rot; they aren't separated from "the Faithfull Creator".

If you've watched much of the CSI TV series, you'll have an idea what happens to a human body, beginning within hours of death. It ain't pretty. There isn't any need to allegorize it.

The soul as a form of communing between two spirits not seen that sins will die.
Irrelevant; Jesus never sinned.
 

Dino246

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Yes you could say his body saw no decay for three days or did not age one second. The three day work of " the days that time stood still" for the corrupted flesh, no aging.
Garee, what part of "no corruption" are you not getting? Jesus didn't have "corrupted flesh"! It has nothing to do with aging!
 

Hevosmies

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garee im worried for you bro.

I feel you are taking the symbolic allegorizing too far.

ITs best not to mess with the resurrection, imo.

Do you believe Jesus resurrected? Literally, physically, materially?

Jesus said after the resurrection:

Luke 24:39
Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.