Who are the people who crucified Jesus? Is it a believer or a person who does not believe in God?

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leean

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Who are the people who crucified Jesus? Is it a believer or a person who does not believe in God?
Who is convicted of the Lord Jesus? why? Will people now condemn God?
 

NotmebutHim

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Both Jews and Gentiles are responsible for Jesus' crucifixion.

Although He said that He alone has the power to lay His life down and to take it again.

The Jewish leadership wanted Christ dead (specifically crucified) and the Romans carried it out.

Anyone who believes is not condemned, but as the Scripture says, whoever does not believe is "condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God". (cf. John 3).

The Scripture also says, "Who shall bring a charge against God's elect? It is God who justifies". (cf. Romans 8)

And also, "Who are you, o man, to reply against God? Shall the thing formed say to him who formed it, 'why have you made me like this?'" (cf. Romans 9)
 

TabinRivCA

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Who are the people who crucified Jesus? Is it a believer or a person who does not believe in God?
Who is convicted of the Lord why? Will people now condemn God?
It was Jesus who carried out the will of God our Father to sacrifice His body for everyone who believes. Jn 15:13 'No greater love than this than to give one's life for one's friends'.
 

leean

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The man who crucified the Lord Jesus at that time was a person who believed in God, not a Gentile. If the Lord Jesus came again, would he nail the Lord Jesus again?
“Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in your name? and in your name have cast out devils? and in your name done many wonderful works? 23And then will I profess to them, I never knew you: depart from me, you that work iniquity. ”
(Matthew 12:22-23)
If the Lord Jesus returns, and the believer still resists the Lord Jesus, it is ruined.
 

JaumeJ

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ÇThat is plain, it is the sinner who crcified our Lord, Yeshua, and this includes you and me.
 

TMS

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ÇThat is plain, it is the sinner who crcified our Lord, Yeshua, and this includes you and me.
I agree sin is what = death, and Jesus died for the sin of the world. All have sinned and require forgiveness and it is the blood of Jesus that makes our forgiveness possible.

Heb 9:20 Saying, This is the blood of the testament which God hath enjoined unto you.
Heb 9:21 Moreover he sprinkled with blood both the tabernacle, and all the vessels of the ministry.
Heb 9:22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.
Heb 9:23 It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these.
Heb 9:24 For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:
Heb 9:25 Nor yet that he should offer himself often, as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others;
Heb 9:26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.
Heb 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
Heb 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
 

Dan58

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The man who crucified the Lord Jesus at that time was a person who believed in God, not a Gentile. If the Lord Jesus came again, would he nail the Lord Jesus again?
Pontius Pilate was a Gentile, and he ordered the crucifixion.. But of course, the Pharisee's and chief priest arrested Christ and called for his execution... And yes, I suspect if Christ came in the flesh again, I suspect the world would send him out on a slab. jmo
 
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Every time that we sin, we are accusing Jesus of impiety.
 

Adstar

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Who are the people who crucified Jesus? Is it a believer or a person who does not believe in God?
Who is convicted of the Lord Jesus? why? Will people now condemn God?
The Jewish religious leadership and the Roman Authorities in Jerusalem both worked to execute Jesus.. So there where those who believed in the God of Abraham and those who where pagans. Everyone who hears the message of God is convicted by it in some way or another, Some resist that conviction some humble themselves and accept it..

No one can successfully condemn God..
 

Journeyman

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The man who crucified the Lord Jesus at that time was a person who believed in God, not a Gentile. If the Lord Jesus came again, would he nail the Lord Jesus again?
“Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in your name? and in your name have cast out devils? and in your name done many wonderful works? 23And then will I profess to them, I never knew you: depart from me, you that work iniquity. ”
(Matthew 12:22-23)
If the Lord Jesus returns, and the believer still resists the Lord Jesus, it is ruined.
leean, the people who wanted Jesus dead said they believed in God, but they didn't. You can't love God, but hate Jesus,

Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me Jn.8:42
 

leean

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Pontius Pilate was a Gentile, and he ordered the crucifixion.. But of course, the Pharisee's and chief priest arrested Christ and called for his execution... And yes, I suspect if Christ came in the flesh again, I suspect the world would send him out on a slab. jmo
Pilate was passive, and the sectarian leader condemned the Lord Jesus.
“But first must he suffer many things, and be rejected of this generation. ”(luke 17:25)
If the Lord Jesus is still called the Lord Jesus, will he suffer?
 

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Pontius Pilate was a Gentile, and he ordered the crucifixion.. But of course, the Pharisee's and chief priest arrested Christ and called for his execution... And yes, I suspect if Christ came in the flesh again, I suspect the world would send him out on a slab. jmo
You are probably right, but He is not coming in the flesh the next time.

Luke 21:27
"And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory." :cool:
 

leean

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You are probably right, but He is not coming in the flesh the next time.

Luke 21:27 "And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory." :cool:
For instance: “Be you therefore ready also: for the Son of man comes at an hour when you think not” (Luk 12:40). “For as the lightning, that lightens out of the one part under heaven, shines to the other part under heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in his day. But first must he suffer many things, and be rejected of this generation” (Luk 17:24-25). All of these prophecies speak of the Son of man or the Son of man comes. This phrase the Son of man refers to One who is born to a human and has normal humanity. So the Spirit can’t be called the Son of man. For instance, because Jehovah God is Spirit, He cannot be called the Son of man. Some people have seen angels, angels are also spiritual beings, so they cannot be called the Son of man. All those that have the appearance of man but are composed of spiritual bodies cannot be called the Son of man. The incarnate Lord Jesus was called the Son of man and Christ because He was the incarnate flesh of God’s Spirit and so became an ordinary and normal man, living in the company of other men. So when the Lord Jesus said the Son of man and the Son of man comes, He was referring to God’s coming through incarnation in the last days. Especially when He said, “first must he suffer many things, and be rejected of this generation,” this proves even more explicitly that when the Lord comes again, He comes by becoming flesh. If He didn’t come in fleshly form but rather as a spiritual body, He certainly wouldn’t experience any suffering and certainly wouldn’t be rejected by this generation, that’s undoubtable. So, the Lord Jesus’ return is definitely in the form of the incarnation and comes to do the work of judgment in the last days.
 

claudia22

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Who are the people who crucified Jesus? Is it a believer or a person who does not believe in God?
Who is convicted of the Lord Jesus? why? Will people now condemn God?
According to the gospels, Jesus, was arrested and tried by the Sanhedrin, and then sentenced by Pontius
Pilate to be scourged, and finally crucified by the Romans. Jesus was stripped of his clothing and offered
wine mixed with myrrh or gall to drink after saying i am thirsty.

The Sanhedrin are the (Hebrew and Jewish).

Matthew 27 verse 20-30
The stripped of Jesus clothes.
 
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Jesus was crucified because it was the will and plan of God for sin. Jesus prayed in the Garden that if it be possible to let the cup pass but never the less not his will but God's will be done.

It was the will of God. No one had the power to take his life from him, he freely gave it. Pilate even washed his hands of it, but he didn't stop it because it was the will of God. Jesus died for the sins of the world.
 

NayborBear

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Jesus was crucified because it was the will and plan of God for sin. Jesus prayed in the Garden that if it be possible to let the cup pass but never the less not his will but God's will be done.

It was the will of God. No one had the power to take his life from him, he freely gave it. Pilate even washed his hands of it, but he didn't stop it because it was the will of God. Jesus died for the sins of the world.
Yanno? We can thank God for sending an angel to Pilate's wife in a dream! A dream that when she conversed it to Pilate, gave cause for Pilate, in the "washing of his hands" over this whole crucifixion thing! May seem like such a "small" matter. But, it showed God, that there "may be HOPE" for these pagan gentiles! A "matter" to which Paul (a Jewish Roman, by the way) was "sent" as the "Apostle to the gentiles!" ;)
 
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Yanno? We can thank God for sending an angel to Pilate's wife in a dream! A dream that when she conversed it to Pilate, gave cause for Pilate, in the "washing of his hands" over this whole crucifixion thing! May seem like such a "small" matter. But, it showed God, that there "may be HOPE" for these pagan gentiles! A "matter" to which Paul (a Jewish Roman, by the way) was "sent" as the "Apostle to the gentiles!" ;)
Yea, it's amazing how we can look back at these things and see how the will of God played out every step of the way.

Thanks for the reply, I had never made that connection before so thanks for pointing it out.